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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 14:44:37 GMT
They wanted to get some forces south as fast as possible. They didn't have to all go at the slowest pace and they had some transports available.
Enjoy the hunt for the Starbucks cup.
They didn't have the numbers to blockade the city either way. The only reason to do it was to get a dragon killed off. Still trying to figure out how Dany didn't see those ships from her vantage point, or why she didn't make any attempt at evasive action as bolt after bolt was fired at her dragon and she just watched. They were hoping to prevent Euron from ferrying more troops and food. They ran into technological changes since the last time the dragons engaged a fleet in Meereen. In the era the show depicts in our world gunpowder was beginning to change the battlefield and naval combat, in that world it's super scorpions designed by a guy who animates dead Mountains.
Dany got caught with her pants down, she wasn't expecting that, not unlike how too many battleships got sunk by aircraft early in WWII, you can muster evidence that they should have known better, but they didn't, and they still got sunk.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 15:13:12 GMT
They didn't have the numbers to blockade the city either way. The only reason to do it was to get a dragon killed off. Still trying to figure out how Dany didn't see those ships from her vantage point, or why she didn't make any attempt at evasive action as bolt after bolt was fired at her dragon and she just watched. They were hoping to prevent Euron from ferrying more troops and food. They ran into technological changes since the last time the dragons engaged a fleet in Meereen. In the era the show depicts in our world gunpowder was beginning to change the battlefield and naval combat, in that world it's super scorpions designed by a guy who animates dead Mountains.
Dany got caught with her pants down, she wasn't expecting that, not unlike how too many battleships got sunk by aircraft early in WWII, you can muster evidence that they should have known better, but they didn't, and they still got sunk.
It's more than not suspecting it; she literally didn't see the entire fleet of ships while she was in the sky. She also did nothing about it once her dragon was hit the first time. The writers needed to write out a dragon, so they did. They've been taking shortcuts ever since the show advanced beyond the books. No amount of head canon is going to make their decisions in this episode reasonable. I'd also argue your point that there's a specific time period they're attempting to recreate here. ASOIAF has never been about historical one-for-one analogies, this was quite the talking point with us armchair generals and historians on the old GOT boards on IMDb. I'm glad you're still enjoying GOT, but it's just gotten too sloppy for me.
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Post by shadyvsesham on May 6, 2019 15:33:21 GMT
Yea this writing is sloppy and rushed af now. This easily should be 10 episodes, it was imo the issue with season 7. I didnt hate 7 but I had issues. Again S7E6 not one main character dies? They all make it?
NK turned out to be a big p*ssy. Why was he what he was? What was his goal? IDK, no one does, he died in the easiest way possible. SO 8 years of build up to be basically stabbed like butter.
Cersei is evil to be evil. Smirk, evil. Remember when characters had depth? ' Now Danny seems to be going evil, Cersei is evil, and Jon Snow is the "good child."
Sansa is an annoying twit (sorry). Arya I just never cared for (sorry) but seems shes the only one who can get $hit done. Bran is also boring now to me. It all just feels insanely rushed af. This does seem now sloppy. 6 episodes wasnt enough and this was my fear when I heard "6 episodes."
I hate to do this but GRRM isnt finishing the books. This is what youre gonna get folks. I wanted to read the books but Im the type if I read a series, I wanna go straight through. His dumbass isnt finishing them.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 15:58:37 GMT
Yea this writing is sloppy and rushed af now. This easily should be 10 episodes, it was imo the issue with season 7. I didnt hate 7 but I had issues. Again S7E6 not one main character dies? They all make it? NK turned out to be a big p*ssy. Why was he what he was? What was his goal? IDK, no one does, he died in the easiest way possible. SO 8 years of build up to be basically stabbed like butter. Cersei is evil to be evil. Smirk, evil. Remember when characters had depth? ' Now Danny seems to be going evil, Cersei is evil, and Jon Snow is the "good child." Sansa is an annoying twit (sorry). Arya I just never cared for (sorry) but seems shes the only one who can get $hit done. Bran is also boring now to me. It all just feels insanely rushed af. This does seem now sloppy. 6 episodes wasnt enough and this was my fear when I heard "6 episodes." I hate to do this but GRRM isnt finishing the books. This is what youre gonna get folks. I wanted to read the books but Im the type if I read a series, I wanna go straight through. His dumbass isnt finishing them. I always hated book and show Sansa, but she's grown on me this season. She's looking out for her people, as a good ruler should. With Sansa it seems less about power over the Seven Kingdoms and more about freedom for the North. I was a fan of book and show Arya, and I still think she's a great character (though I hate the way the battle with the NK played out). For the first time in a long time I'm not sure what's going to happen to her. Now that she's killed the NK, I feel like her plot armor is gone. Bran has always been stale for me in both formats, though I do enjoy that he's become a quip machine. At Littlefinger's trial last season, I feel Bran's was the deciding testimony. I loved his well placed, "The things we do for love," quote to Jamie. Then last night his, "Mostly I live in the past," line to Tyrion was another classic. He doesn't do anything, but he's become this kind of metacommentary on the happenings in Westeros. Like a narrator that usually only the audience hears, but in this case the other characters have to deal with him as well. That said I don't care what happens to him.
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Post by wonderburstanger on May 6, 2019 16:07:45 GMT
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category. But what are your thoughts on the Starbucks cup left on the table in one of the scenes? I know there’s a Starbucks literally every 50 feet but I didn’t know they branched out to Winterfell yet. The Starbucks cup can be seen at 17:39
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Post by shadyvsesham on May 6, 2019 17:01:34 GMT
Yea this writing is sloppy and rushed af now. This easily should be 10 episodes, it was imo the issue with season 7. I didnt hate 7 but I had issues. Again S7E6 not one main character dies? They all make it? NK turned out to be a big p*ssy. Why was he what he was? What was his goal? IDK, no one does, he died in the easiest way possible. SO 8 years of build up to be basically stabbed like butter. Cersei is evil to be evil. Smirk, evil. Remember when characters had depth? ' Now Danny seems to be going evil, Cersei is evil, and Jon Snow is the "good child." Sansa is an annoying twit (sorry). Arya I just never cared for (sorry) but seems shes the only one who can get $hit done. Bran is also boring now to me. It all just feels insanely rushed af. This does seem now sloppy. 6 episodes wasnt enough and this was my fear when I heard "6 episodes." I hate to do this but GRRM isnt finishing the books. This is what youre gonna get folks. I wanted to read the books but Im the type if I read a series, I wanna go straight through. His dumbass isnt finishing them. I always hated book and show Sansa, but she's grown on me this season. She's looking out for her people, as a good ruler should. With Sansa it seems less about power over the Seven Kingdoms and more about freedom for the North. I was a fan of book and show Arya, and I still think she's a great character (though I hate the way the battle with the NK played out). For the first time in a long time I'm not sure what's going to happen to her. Now that she's killed the NK, I feel like her plot armor is gone. Bran has always been stale for me in both formats, though I do enjoy that he's become a quip machine. At Littlefinger's trial last season, I feel Bran's was the deciding testimony. I loved his well placed, "The things we do for love," quote to Jamie. Then last night his, "Mostly I live in the past," line to Tyrion was another classic. He doesn't do anything, but he's become this kind of metacommentary on the happenings in Westeros. Like a narrator that usually only the audience hears, but in this case the other characters have to deal with him as well. That said I don't care what happens to him. Again I never read the books (I want too but now it looks like they wont ever be finished, it's a hard sell for me. IF he finishes, Im buying them all). I agree, Sansa is looking out for her people, this episode, great, but she has pissed me off too long for me to care now. She deserves to die by Cersei. Sansa seems selfish, and really, what can she do besides give orders? She's basically to me Cersei lite. Ill take back saying I NEVER cared for Arya, that's untrue, Im just tired of this "muh girl power" bs. She revenged the red wedding, she took out the NK, and I wont be shocked if she takes Cersei out. It's overwhelming. So she was one of my favorites but now Im being overwhelmed. Bran is just ehh to me. I do like some of his dialogue but again, what can he do if a fight ensues? Nothing.....If he dies Id be like ehh... Ive always (I admit this) liked Snow. I ADMIT he makes a lot of dumb dumb DUMB decisions. Out of everyone he to me seems like he wants to do the right thing. I know a lot now like/hate/dont care for him, I always liked Jon. He was worthless in the NK battle and that was irritating to me. Danny is now going full mad "queen." This is so predictable imo. Everything Sam said,"would she do the same for you," no. How can they finish this in 2 episodes? Ill tell you how, with more rushed sloppy writing.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 6, 2019 17:24:54 GMT
What a joke this once great show has become.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 17:26:38 GMT
They were hoping to prevent Euron from ferrying more troops and food. They ran into technological changes since the last time the dragons engaged a fleet in Meereen. In the era the show depicts in our world gunpowder was beginning to change the battlefield and naval combat, in that world it's super scorpions designed by a guy who animates dead Mountains.
Dany got caught with her pants down, she wasn't expecting that, not unlike how too many battleships got sunk by aircraft early in WWII, you can muster evidence that they should have known better, but they didn't, and they still got sunk.
It's more than not suspecting it; she literally didn't see the entire fleet of ships while she was in the sky. She also did nothing about it once her dragon was hit the first time. The writers needed to write out a dragon, so they did. They've been taking shortcuts ever since the show advanced beyond the books. No amount of head canon is going to make their decisions in this episode reasonable. I'd also argue your point that there's a specific time period they're attempting to recreate here. ASOIAF has never been about historical one-for-one analogies, this was quite the talking point with us armchair generals and historians on the old GOT boards on IMDb. I'm glad you're still enjoying GOT, but it's just gotten too sloppy for me. 'Surprise is the consequence of shock and confusion induced by the deliberate or incidental introduction of the unexpected.' It happens.
I don't know how you expect writers determine events like this, roll dice? Not every end has to be glorious, or an expected result, sometimes the pooch just gets screwed.
This isn't head-canon, head-canon is realizing there's no way ravens get from Eastwatch to Dragonstone and then dragons fly beyond the wall in one night, so obviously the dragons were at Eastwatch the whole time. I agree the plotting and dialogue has suffered some since they ran out of source material, but manufactured obtuseness is a user error.
The rough time period recreated was the War of the Roses era, about the fifteenth century but I agree it was not a strict analogy.
I don't think we watch the show for the same reason, so peace out.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 17:31:54 GMT
It's more than not suspecting it; she literally didn't see the entire fleet of ships while she was in the sky. She also did nothing about it once her dragon was hit the first time. The writers needed to write out a dragon, so they did. They've been taking shortcuts ever since the show advanced beyond the books. No amount of head canon is going to make their decisions in this episode reasonable. I'd also argue your point that there's a specific time period they're attempting to recreate here. ASOIAF has never been about historical one-for-one analogies, this was quite the talking point with us armchair generals and historians on the old GOT boards on IMDb. I'm glad you're still enjoying GOT, but it's just gotten too sloppy for me. 'Surprise is the consequence of shock and confusion induced by the deliberate or incidental introduction of the unexpected.' It happens.
I don't know how you expect writers determine events like this, roll dice? Not every end has to be glorious, or an expected result, sometimes the pooch just gets screwed.
This isn't head-canon, head-canon is realizing there's no way ravens get from Eastwatch to Dragonstone and then dragons fly beyond the wall in one night, so obviously the dragons were at Eastwatch the whole time. I agree the plotting and dialogue has suffered some since they ran out of source material, but manufactured obtuseness is a user error.
The rough time period recreated was the War of the Roses era, about the fifteenth century but I agree it was not a strict analogy.
I don't think we watch the show for the same reason, so peace out.
The War of the Roses is clearly the inspiration for the story, but it isn't supposed to be distinctly based in that era. Using other examples of poor writing over the last few seasons isn't a great argument for the latest garbage scene. We definitely don't watch the show for the same reason if you think Cersei has any depth whatsoever.
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Post by xystophoros on May 7, 2019 1:55:01 GMT
No one is complaining about such trivial nonsense. That particular section of fandom stopped watching years ago. A bit of a problem is that people do not adjust their expectations. Of course season 8 is not at par with earlier seasons. But ep6 of S7 should have been a catalyst for people to downgrade their expectations. I for one am satisfied with this season so far because I had lower expectations. Although I would say they did a bit of mistake in incorrectly using Jon Snow in the battle of Winterfell. As for the whole "I couldn't see anything group", the episode's name was "the long night" and it was expected to be dark. The Night King was creating cold storms to cover everything in darkness so I am not sure how it could have been any different. That said I have a bad feeling that we might not get a bittersweet ending that was promised. The latest trailer insinuates Dany as a kind of future villain. It might actually turn into a tragedy than a bittersweet ending. Now I guess that different people will have different take on that and some might enjoy an all Stark victory. I probably won't. I wanted Arya to be dead by the end but it seems they won't kill her.
Why do you want to see her die? Anyway I think you’ll get your wish, after what we saw last night. She’s planning on doing a lot of slaughtering when she gets to King’s Landing, and doesn’t seem confident she’ll survive.
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Post by MrFurious on May 7, 2019 10:24:28 GMT
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Post by DSDSquared on May 7, 2019 12:54:03 GMT
Watched the first 2 eps last night and enjoyed them. I see the IMDb score for ep 3 has gone from 9.7 down to 8.7. I'm guessing its all these idiots that watched it on their smartphones and are moaning that it was too dark that voted it down. Looking forward to it anyway this evening A six feet 8K TV won't help you out: first a dark mess, then a reddish-brown one. Sounds like you need a new display. I had absolutely no issues seeing anything. This complaint boggles my mind. Have you guys heard of a little thing called high def?
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Post by DSDSquared on May 7, 2019 13:05:18 GMT
This idea that Dany is somehow now the bad and becoming the mad queen is dumb. This is a woman who could have burned the Red Keep to the ground the second she landed on Dragonstone. She decided not to because of her advisors and she did not want to burn down a city. Since then she has been losing the war, badly. She stopped her war to help the North defend against the White Walkers, losing half her forces in the process. Then she still did not attack Kings Landing when provoked. She once again decided not to kill innocent people. Cersei would have burned down half of Westeros in her position by now. Finally, she sees one of her closest friends beheaded in front of her, gets angry, but not Jon dumb angry where she charges right then, and now she is evil for some reason. Game of Thrones 'fans' crack me up.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 7, 2019 14:16:56 GMT
This idea that Dany is somehow now the bad and becoming the mad queen is dumb. This is a woman who could have burned the Red Keep to the ground the second she landed on Dragonstone. She decided not to because of her advisors and she did not want to burn down a city. Since then she has been losing the war, badly. She stopped her war to help the North defend against the White Walkers, losing half her forces in the process. Then she still did not attack Kings Landing when provoked. She once again decided not to kill innocent people. Cersei would have burned down half of Westeros in her position by now. Finally, she sees one of her closest friends beheaded in front of her, gets angry, but not Jon dumb angry where she charges right then, and now she is evil for some reason. Game of Thrones 'fans' crack me up. What do you mean? I thought Jon's strategy of hiding behind a rock and then yelling in the undead dragon's face until it collapsed was genius.
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Post by DSDSquared on May 7, 2019 14:22:25 GMT
This idea that Dany is somehow now the bad and becoming the mad queen is dumb. This is a woman who could have burned the Red Keep to the ground the second she landed on Dragonstone. She decided not to because of her advisors and she did not want to burn down a city. Since then she has been losing the war, badly. She stopped her war to help the North defend against the White Walkers, losing half her forces in the process. Then she still did not attack Kings Landing when provoked. She once again decided not to kill innocent people. Cersei would have burned down half of Westeros in her position by now. Finally, she sees one of her closest friends beheaded in front of her, gets angry, but not Jon dumb angry where she charges right then, and now she is evil for some reason. Game of Thrones 'fans' crack me up. What do you mean? I thought Jon's strategy of hiding behind a rock and then yelling in the undead dragon's face until it collapsed was genius. Ha ha. I like Jon a lot. The show and books make it hard not to. They want him to be the hero. However, he is a moron and always has been. Think about it. Since season one he has made dumb decision after dumb decision. It is blind luck and plot armor that he is even still alive at this point. People say he is a good battle commander. Why? When has he ever shown this in any way? I will admit that he is brave as heck and a darn good fighter, but he is not exactly very bright.
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 7, 2019 14:44:29 GMT
What do you mean? I thought Jon's strategy of hiding behind a rock and then yelling in the undead dragon's face until it collapsed was genius. Ha ha. I like Jon a lot. The show and books make it hard not to. They want him to be the hero. However, he is a moron and always has been. Think about it. Since season one he has made dumb decision after dumb decision. It is blind luck and plot armor that he is even still alive at this point. People say he is a good battle commander. Why? When has he ever shown this in any way? I will admit that he is brave as heck and a darn good fighter, but he is not exactly very bright. I'm with you on all fronts here. Love the character unto itself, but he survived unsurvivable situations in Battle of the Basterds, in Beyond The Wall when he fell through the fucking ice and was subsequently saved by a wasted and wholly undeveloped half-zombie-Uncle-Benjin ex machina (Cold Hands?), and then again last week when he was surrounded by hundreds of wights who previously tore through humans like toilet paper but then couldn't rip apart an unarmed and terrified Sam (who I also love) and the other plot armored heroes. Up until Season 7, the show had been merciless with people. If they ran into a juggernaut, they'd get slaughtered. Ned Stark, the Red Wedding, Jamie's hand, Tywin Lannister, Marjorie (and literally everyone else in the sept), if you found yourself in an inferior position, chances are you were doomed. Not anymore. I can't help but enjoy the show. The sheer scope and production quality of it is tough to ignore. For all of the problems with The Long Night, and they're unmistakable, find me another 90 minute episode of a TV show that he me gripped from start to finish. But yeah, this show was at its best when Tyrion was telling 3 different people 3 different plans as a means to root out which one of them was reporting back to Cersei behind his back. It was smart, it was subtle, it revealed vast amounts about several characters in one fell swoop without clunky exposition and it propelled the story forwards in a logical manner......and now we're left with a race to the finish line, featuring poorly plotted romance novels and incomprehensible battle tactics. Ser Davos though, every line he delivers is pure gold. If he dies, I'll be very upset.
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Post by DSDSquared on May 7, 2019 14:46:41 GMT
Ha ha. I like Jon a lot. The show and books make it hard not to. They want him to be the hero. However, he is a moron and always has been. Think about it. Since season one he has made dumb decision after dumb decision. It is blind luck and plot armor that he is even still alive at this point. People say he is a good battle commander. Why? When has he ever shown this in any way? I will admit that he is brave as heck and a darn good fighter, but he is not exactly very bright. I'm with you on all fronts here. Love the character unto itself, but he survived unsurvivable situations in Battle of the Basterds, in Beyond The Wall when he fell through the fucking ice and was subsequently saved by a wasted and wholly undeveloped half-zombie-Uncle-Benjin ex machina (Cold Hands?), and then again last week when he was surrounded by hundreds of wights who previously tore through humans like toilet paper but then couldn't rip apart an unarmed and terrified Sam (who I also love) and the other plot armored heroes. Up until Season 7, the show had been merciless with people. If they ran into a juggernaut, they'd get slaughtered. Ned Stark, the Red Wedding, Jamie's hand, Tywin Lannister, Marjorie (and literally everyone else in the sept), if you found yourself in an inferior position, chances are you were doomed. Not anymore. I can't help but enjoy the show. The sheer scope and production quality of it is tough to ignore. For all of the problems with The Long Night, and they're unmistakable, find me another 90 minute episode of a TV show that he me gripped from start to finish. But yeah, this show was at its best when Tyrion was telling 3 different people 3 different plans as a means to root out which one of them was reporting back to Cersei behind his back. It was smart, it was subtle, it revealed vast amounts about several characters in one fell swoop without clunky exposition and it propelled the story forwards in a logical manner......and now we're left with a race to the finish line, featuring poorly plotted romance novels and incomprehensible battle tactics. Ser Davos though, every line he delivers is pure gold. If he dies, I'll be very upset. I agree with all of this. The show was at its peak in seasons 1-4. However, I still love the show. It is just too well done technically and there are just too many good characters not to like it. I do prefer this season to Season 7 though.
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Post by xystophoros on May 8, 2019 6:02:15 GMT
Anyone complaining about GoT is just being a twat. The show has become a cultural phenomenon and is the undisputed most successful book to TV adaptation in history. It’s also the most-watched, most-pirated show in history. It’s 2019, do we really still have salty “book fans” mingeing about Stannis and stupid shit like not including Lady Stoneheart? “OMG Renly didn’t eat a peach in that scene and the show never mentioned that the Unsullied are given puppies! What an abortion of a show! D&D have RUINED GRRM’s masterwork! Waaaaah!” Shut the fuck up. No one is complaining about such trivial nonsense. That particular section of fandom stopped watching years ago. Not true, unfortunately. They’re still out there whining on Twitter, Reddit and other sites, and Buzzfeed just published a two-ply joke of an article raging about how the show is ruining Daenerys and Jon Snow. GRRM is only making it worse by publicly whining about the way the show is ending. If he wanted it to end differently, he should have written the damn books — it’s now been more than 12 years since he signed the deal with HBO to adapt the series.
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Post by xystophoros on May 8, 2019 6:23:04 GMT
Yea this writing is sloppy and rushed af now. This easily should be 10 episodes, it was imo the issue with season 7. I didnt hate 7 but I had issues. Again S7E6 not one main character dies? They all make it? NK turned out to be a big p*ssy. Why was he what he was? What was his goal? IDK, no one does, he died in the easiest way possible. SO 8 years of build up to be basically stabbed like butter. Cersei is evil to be evil. Smirk, evil. Remember when characters had depth? ' Now Danny seems to be going evil, Cersei is evil, and Jon Snow is the "good child." Sansa is an annoying twit (sorry). Arya I just never cared for (sorry) but seems shes the only one who can get $hit done. Bran is also boring now to me. It all just feels insanely rushed af. This does seem now sloppy. 6 episodes wasnt enough and this was my fear when I heard "6 episodes." I hate to do this but GRRM isnt finishing the books. This is what youre gonna get folks. I wanted to read the books but Im the type if I read a series, I wanna go straight through. His dumbass isnt finishing them. Dude it took them 55 days just to shoot the battle of Winterfell. It took them two years just to do these six episodes because of the scale of production and logistics — this season is comparable to four feature movies in both run time and budget. Now imagine having to handle all that, shooting episodes that cost $20 to $40 million apiece, costuming thousands of extras, supervising a massive GFX effort, contracting builders for the remaining sets, shooting in several different countries, dealing with a massive cast of actors, taking drastic and unprecedented measures to prevent plot and footage leaks despite a crew of thousands working on the season... ...and on top of all that you have to write the original material because GRRM the lazy fuck couldn’t get the books done in the 12+ years since you inked the development deal with him. And while GRRM has been writing the series for 25+ years, you have like six months to write a satisfying conclusion to the series because you have to get it done before the production can begin. And while you’re writing it you know every word of dialog, every frame of every episode will be dissected and analyzed not only by innumerable millions on the internet — Reddit, Westeros.org, Tumblr, etc — but by every asswipe web writer for such illustrious publications as Buzzfeed, Refinery29, AV Club, Uproxx, who love to write “think pieces” about how your show is misogynist or racist because you killed a character of color like Missandei while white male characters are still breathing. (Yes, some retard wrote that very story after this week’s episode.) It’s a Herculean task, and it’s no wonder why Benioff and Weiss are done with the GoT universe after this. On top of all that shit, they still have to deal with first-world-problem-having jackwagons who are still whining, a decade later, about how your show isn’t a word by word recreation of the books, screaming hysterically that you’ve “ruined” GRRM’s work by not having Renly eat a peach during his parlay with Stannis, or because you’ve chosen not to include pointless characters like Quentyn Martell and Strong Belwas. The way I look at it, GoT is not only the most successful book to TV adaptation of all time, it’s the most successful television show of all time, a show that is not only the most-watched and most-pirated, it’s also changed the cultural landscape and introduced new words and phrases into the cultural lexicon, phrases like “Winter is coming” and “Bend the knee” and “Valar Morghulis.” If we have any doubt of its significance, just look at the US birth statistics and see how many little girls are being named Arya, Daenerys, Sansa and Khaleesi. I’d say that’s pretty incredible.
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Post by sdm3 on May 8, 2019 10:08:04 GMT
Yea this writing is sloppy and rushed af now. This easily should be 10 episodes, it was imo the issue with season 7. I didnt hate 7 but I had issues. Again S7E6 not one main character dies? They all make it? NK turned out to be a big p*ssy. Why was he what he was? What was his goal? IDK, no one does, he died in the easiest way possible. SO 8 years of build up to be basically stabbed like butter. Cersei is evil to be evil. Smirk, evil. Remember when characters had depth? ' Now Danny seems to be going evil, Cersei is evil, and Jon Snow is the "good child." Sansa is an annoying twit (sorry). Arya I just never cared for (sorry) but seems shes the only one who can get $hit done. Bran is also boring now to me. It all just feels insanely rushed af. This does seem now sloppy. 6 episodes wasnt enough and this was my fear when I heard "6 episodes." I hate to do this but GRRM isnt finishing the books. This is what youre gonna get folks. I wanted to read the books but Im the type if I read a series, I wanna go straight through. His dumbass isnt finishing them. The way I look at it, GoT is not only the most successful book to TV adaptation of all time, it’s the most successful television show of all time, a show that is not only the most-watched and most-pirated, it’s also changed the cultural landscape and introduced new words and phrases into the cultural lexicon, phrases like “Winter is coming” and “Bend the knee” and “Valar Morghulis.” If we have any doubt of its significance, just look at the US birth statistics and see how many little girls are being named Arya, Daenerys, Sansa and Khaleesi. I’d say that’s pretty incredible. Okay, but so what? Yes, the show is immensely popular and has been a pop-culture behemoth over the course of its run. Why is any of that relevant to the matter at hand? Why does the fact that idiots call their babies "Khaleesi" mean that the show should be immune from criticism?
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