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Post by damngumby on Mar 29, 2019 2:41:07 GMT
So Rogers did in fact use the super-PED to steal the job from more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves next in line for a promotion to Captain. And there's no integrity at all to using PEDs to steal a job from someone more experienced and more qualified. There was no fixed number of Captain positions, you unmitigated moron. No one would have lost a promotion when Steve Rogers became a Captain. Steve Rogers won the competition to participate in a dangerous Army experiment. His military superiors thought he deserved the rank of Captain. That was their decision to make, not to be second guessed and disrespected by some whiny sniveling civilian, like yourself. Are you suggesting it was wrong for the US Army to experiment with "super PEDs" to help win the war ... because it wasn't "fair" to the Nazis? Sounds like you're also a god-damn Nazis sympathizer! We'll have to add that one to the list.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 29, 2019 2:48:55 GMT
A Captain is an officer who commands other soldiers. Rogers had no command experience at all so Rogers was unqualified to be a Captain. Wrong again, Always Wrong. How many soldiers did Captain Pierce and Captain Honeycut command in their MASH unit? Zero. Would you like to make any other stupid statements in this thread?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Mar 29, 2019 3:03:29 GMT
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Post by poutinep on Mar 29, 2019 4:12:38 GMT
So Rogers did in fact use the super-PED to steal the job from more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves next in line for a promotion to Captain. And there's no integrity at all to using PEDs to steal a job from someone more experienced and more qualified. There was no fixed number of Captain positions, you unmitigated moron. No one would have lost a promotion when Steve Rogers became a Captain. Steve Rogers won the competition to participate in a dangerous Army experiment. His military superiors thought he deserved the rank of Captain. That was their decision to make, not to be second guessed and disrespected by some whiny sniveling civilian, like yourself. Are you suggesting it was wrong for the US Army to experiment with "super PEDs" to help win the war ... because it wasn't "fair" to the Nazis? Sounds like you're also a god-damn Nazis sympathizer! We'll have to add that one to the list. damn man, wish you were my sock cuz you just owned the idiot even better than I have been!
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 6:05:04 GMT
His personality got him the serum - the serum + his personality got him his rank. You admit that the serum got him the rank of Captain. So you've just admitted that Steve Rogers used the super-PED serum to steal the job of Captain from more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves in next in line for a promotion to Captain. So we're in agreement that Steve Rogers is a thief who used a super-PED to steal a job from someoe who was more experienced and more qualified. And like I said before, there's no integrity at all to stealing a job from someone who's more experienced and more qualified. You keep saying he wasn't qualified...but Erskine and Phillips decided he was...and they were right. And I'm 100% right. Steve Rogers wasn't qualified to be a Captain. It's obvious that Erskine and Phillips made an error in judgement since Steve Rogers clearly proved he wasn't qualified to be a Captain by disobeying a direct command.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 6:14:34 GMT
There was no fixed number of Captain positions Yes, there is. How many Captains are there on the Enterprise at any given time? Just one. There are only a limited number of Captains because a Captain is a commanding officer and if everyone is a Captain, then there wouldn't be anyone for the Captain to command. No one would have lost a promotion when Steve Rogers became a Captain. The officers who worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves next in line for a promotion to Captain lost that promotion because Steve Rogers used the super-PED to steal the promotion from them. Are you suggesting it was wrong for the US Army to experiment with "super PEDs" to help win the war ... because it wasn't "fair" to the Nazis? Are you suggesting it was OK for Steve Rogers to use the super-PED to steal a promotion from a more experienced and more qualified officer? These weren't Nazis tht Steve Rogers stole a promotion from. There were hard-working American officers who worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves next in line for a promotion. That's who Steve Rogers stole from.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 6:17:46 GMT
A Captain is an officer who commands other soldiers. Rogers had no command experience at all so Rogers was unqualified to be a Captain. Wrong again, Always Wrong. How many soldiers did Captain Pierce and Captain Honeycut command in their MASH unit? Zero. Wrong again. As Captains, they can give orders to all enlisted soldiers and all officers of lower ranks. Furthermore, if there was an emergency or crisis that required a command decision and no higher-ranking officer was present, they as the highest-ranking officers would be the ones to make the command decision.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 6:18:18 GMT
Nope, I just owned King Kong Brady aka poutinep.
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Post by sostie on Mar 31, 2019 8:37:59 GMT
There was no fixed number of Captain positions Yes, there is. How many Captains are there on the Enterprise at any given time? Well that comparison doesn't work. Star Treks command structure is based on the naval structure. A Captain in the navy is three ranks higher than any other uniformed military service. The Army equivalent of a naval Captain is a Colonel.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 31, 2019 12:09:35 GMT
There was no fixed number of Captain positions Yes, there is. How many Captains are there on the Enterprise at any given time? He's not called Always Wrong fer nutin'! There were thousands of Army personnel with the rank of Captain in WW2. Your entire argument has been built upon a false premise. You are wrong. Hilariously wrong. Always Wrong.
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Post by poutinep on Mar 31, 2019 14:09:19 GMT
His personality got him the serum - the serum + his personality got him his rank. You admit that the serum got him the rank of Captain. So you've just admitted that Steve Rogers used the super-PED serum to steal the job of Captain from more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America to put themselves in next in line for a promotion to Captain. So we're in agreement that Steve Rogers is a thief who used a super-PED to steal a job from someoe who was more experienced and more qualified. And like I said before, there's no integrity at all to stealing a job from someone who's more experienced and more qualified. You keep saying he wasn't qualified...but Erskine and Phillips decided he was...and they were right. And I'm 100% right. Steve Rogers wasn't qualified to be a Captain. It's obvious that Erskine and Phillips made an error in judgement since Steve Rogers clearly proved he wasn't qualified to be a Captain by disobeying a direct command. just re-pasting already defeated statements. sad.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 31, 2019 14:36:43 GMT
I don't really like this version of Cap as a person, but I love watching him fight. He is a machine.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 15:54:16 GMT
Yes, there is. How many Captains are there on the Enterprise at any given time? He's not called Always Wrong fer nutin'! There were thousands of Army personnel with the rank of Captain in WW2. So you admit that there wasn't an unlimited or infinite number of Captains in the army in WW2. There weren't even hundreds of thousands of Captains. Just a limited number (a few thousand Captains) among the 16 million soldiers who served in the US Army in WW2. So once again, I'm 100% correct and you're 100% wrong. There were only a limited number of Captain positions in the army and Steve Rogers used a super-PED to steal one of those limited Captain positions from a more experienced and more qualified officer who had worked his butt off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America, with the help of any super-PED, to put himself next line for a promotion to Captain.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 31, 2019 16:40:12 GMT
He's not called Always Wrong fer nutin'! There were thousands of Army personnel with the rank of Captain in WW2. Just a limited number (a few thousand Captains) among the 16 million soldiers who served in the US Army in WW2. Sorry, cupcake. you've already disqualified yourself from any further discussion on this matter when you confused the rank of Army Captain with the Captain of a naval vessel. There was no quota limit to the number of Captains in WW2. Everyone gets it, but you. Always Wrong.
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Post by poutinep on Mar 31, 2019 16:40:46 GMT
He's not called Always Wrong fer nutin'! There were thousands of Army personnel with the rank of Captain in WW2. So you admit that there wasn't an unlimited or infinite number of Captains in the army in WW2. There weren't even hundreds of thousands of Captains. Just a limited number (a few thousand Captains) among the 16 million soldiers who served in the US Army in WW2. So once again, I'm 100% correct and you're 100% wrong. There were only a limited number of Captain positions in the army and Steve Rogers used a super-PED to steal one of those limited Captain positions from a more experienced and more qualified officer who had worked his butt off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America, with the help of any super-PED, to put himself next line for a promotion to Captain. Wow you suck at math. Just because you can count the number of something doesn't mean it's not allowed to go higher.
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Post by ctown28 on Mar 31, 2019 16:58:03 GMT
Just a limited number (a few thousand Captains) among the 16 million soldiers who served in the US Army in WW2. Sorry, cupcake. you've already disqualified yourself from any further discussion on this matter when you confused the rank of Army Captain with the Captain of a naval vessel. There was no quota limit to the number of Captains in WW2. Everyone gets it, but you. Always Wrong. Now cmon, everyone knows there was another guy that was supposed to get Captain but the army simply told him, “sorry, no more positions available, the last one went to Steve. How did everyone miss this scene in the movie?
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 17:46:43 GMT
Just a limited number (a few thousand Captains) among the 16 million soldiers who served in the US Army in WW2. There was no quota limit to the number of Captains in WW2. There was a limit. That's why there were only a few thousand Captains and not 16 million Captains. Because there are only a limited number of Captain positions.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 17:55:58 GMT
Sorry, cupcake. you've already disqualified yourself from any further discussion on this matter when you confused the rank of Army Captain with the Captain of a naval vessel. There was no quota limit to the number of Captains in WW2. Everyone gets it, but you. Always Wrong. Now cmon, everyone knows there was another guy that was supposed to get Captain but the army simply told him, “sorry, no more positions available, the last one went to Steve. Not surprising that you actually believe the BS that there were an unlimited number of Captain positions in the Army, since you actually believed the BS that Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. LOL!!! There a limited number of Captain positions in the Army because: 1. If everyone was a Captain, then there would be no soldiers for Captains to give orders to since not everyone can be a Captain because there has to be soldiers for Captains to give orders to. 2. A promotion to Captain also means an increase in salary. So the Army can't just promote everyone to Captain because the Army doesn't have an unlimited budget to pay everyone the salary of a Captain. So there is a limit to the number of Captains. So like I said before, Steve Rogers used the super-PED to steal a job from another more experienced and more qualified officer who had worked his butt off for many years serving Uncle Sam and America, without the help of any super-PED, to put himself next in line for a promotion to Captain. Now maybe the officer whom Steve Rogers stole the job from gets promoted to Captain 4 years later. That's 4 years of lower salary that he gets paid when he should've received a Captain's salary and that's also 4 years he gets delayed on his next promotion to a higher rank.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 31, 2019 20:08:03 GMT
There was no quota limit to the number of Captains in WW2. There was a limit. That's why there were only a few thousand Captains and not 16 million Captains. Because there are only a limited number of Captain positions. You mean if there hadn't been a limit, everyone would have been promoted to Captain? That's pretty dumb, even for Always Wrong.
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Post by poutinep on Mar 31, 2019 20:13:26 GMT
There was a limit. That's why there were only a few thousand Captains and not 16 million Captains. Because there are only a limited number of Captain positions. You mean if there hadn't been a limit, everyone would have been promoted to Captain? That's pretty dumb, even for Always Wrong.
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