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Post by dazz on Jun 28, 2019 0:16:32 GMT
Endgame already passed Avatar's original run Not quite, according to Box Office Mojo Avatrrar earned $2,754,700,00+ in it's original run, Endgame is currently sitting at a tallied $2,751,600,00+, putting it just $3.1m or so behind Avatar's original run, but that doesn't count the daily amounts it has made internationally since Sunday, last week it made like $2m during the week over there, and another $2m at the weekend, similar to what it did domestically, so even if it's gross dropped an additional 50% this week internationally and domestically at the weekend Endgame would most likely have earned that original release record Sunday night.
This is wha makes me think this isn't about beating Avatar but protecting them, Endgame was going to take that original release record, now it may not depending on if this counts as a rerelease, which it probably wont as it's not a new release just a theatrical re-expansion, if it counts as a re-release Disney just robbed the MCU of a major feather in their cap to protect Avatar and it's records which is silly but Disney be dumb sometimes.
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Post by poutinep on Jun 28, 2019 0:24:03 GMT
Endgame already passed Avatar's original run Not quite, according to Box Office Mojo Avatrrar earned $2,754,700,00+ in it's original run, Endgame is currently sitting at a tallied $2,751,600,00+, putting it just $3.1m or so behind Avatar's original run, but that doesn't count the daily amounts it has made internationally since Sunday, last week it made like $2m during the week over there, and another $2m at the weekend, similar to what it did domestically, so even if it's gross dropped an additional 50% this week internationally and domestically at the weekend Endgame would most likely have earned that original release record Sunday night.
This is wha makes me think this isn't about beating Avatar but protecting them, Endgame was going to take that original release record, now it may not depending on if this counts as a rerelease, which it probably wont as it's not a new release just a theatrical re-expansion, if it counts as a re-release Disney just robbed the MCU of a major feather in their cap to protect Avatar and it's records which is silly but Disney be dumb sometimes.
Avatar still reigns supreme as the highest-grossing movie of all time with $2.788 billion. However, that status includes its rerelease receipts worth $33 million. This past Sunday, Endgame topped $2.75 billion, beating Avatar's original $2.749 billion theatrical cume.
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Post by dazz on Jun 28, 2019 0:35:46 GMT
Not quite, according to Box Office Mojo Avatrrar earned $2,754,700,00+ in it's original run, Endgame is currently sitting at a tallied $2,751,600,00+, putting it just $3.1m or so behind Avatar's original run, but that doesn't count the daily amounts it has made internationally since Sunday, last week it made like $2m during the week over there, and another $2m at the weekend, similar to what it did domestically, so even if it's gross dropped an additional 50% this week internationally and domestically at the weekend Endgame would most likely have earned that original release record Sunday night.
This is wha makes me think this isn't about beating Avatar but protecting them, Endgame was going to take that original release record, now it may not depending on if this counts as a rerelease, which it probably wont as it's not a new release just a theatrical re-expansion, if it counts as a re-release Disney just robbed the MCU of a major feather in their cap to protect Avatar and it's records which is silly but Disney be dumb sometimes.
Avatar still reigns supreme as the highest-grossing movie of all time with $2.788 billion. However, that status includes its rerelease receipts worth $33 million. This past Sunday, Endgame topped $2.75 billion, beating Avatar's original $2.749 billion theatrical cume.
Dunno I go by what Box Office Mojo is saying which is Avatar's lifetime gross is $ $2,787,965,087, take away $33,210,844 which it's rerelease earned puts it at an original release of $2,754,754,243, with Endgame currently at $2,751,645,367 making it $3,108,876 away from the record.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Jun 28, 2019 4:27:33 GMT
Box office mojo is predicting 2.5 million for Endgame's rerelease opening weekend. If that holds it will have zero chance to pass Avatar, even if it gets a Spider-Man bump next week.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 28, 2019 5:05:21 GMT
Box office mojo is predicting 2.5 million for Endgame's rerelease opening weekend. If that holds it will have zero chance to pass Avatar, even if it gets a Spider-Man bump next week. its having a over 100% theater bump to 2025 theaters this weekend. Anything below 5 million would be embarrassing given the promotion. Last time Endgame had over 2k theaters its weekend was 4.87m. Personally i predict 4m cause i'm not sure anyone outside hardcore fans care.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Jun 28, 2019 5:10:16 GMT
Box office mojo is predicting 2.5 million for Endgame's rerelease opening weekend. If that holds it will have zero chance to pass Avatar, even if it gets a Spider-Man bump next week. its having a over 100% theater bump to 2025 theaters this weekend. Anything below 5 million would be embarrassing given the promotion. Last time Endgame had over 2k theaters its weekend was 4.87m. Personally i predict 4m cause i'm not sure anyone outside hardcore fans care. This time around it has direct competition from films like Toy Story 4 which families will take their children to see. Aladdin is still making good money as well. Then of course Spider-Man drops next Tuesday which might help it like Endgame helped Captain Marvel.
There is also a new Annabella movie playing too. I doubt that will steal much business from people who may have otherwise spent their money on Endgame, but it could hurt it just enough where it doesn't make what it should along with the other competition.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 28, 2019 5:16:09 GMT
its having a over 100% theater bump to 2025 theaters this weekend. Anything below 5 million would be embarrassing given the promotion. Last time Endgame had over 2k theaters its weekend was 4.87m. Personally i predict 4m cause i'm not sure anyone outside hardcore fans care. This time around it has direct competition from films like Toy Story 4 which families will take their children to see. Aladdin is still making good money as well. Then of course Spider-Man drops next Tuesday which might help it like Endgame helped Captain Marvel.
There is also a new Annabella movie playing too. I doubt that will steal much business from people who may have otherwise spent their money on Endgame, but it could hurt it just enough where it doesn't make what it should along with the other competition.
i think they should have done rerelease in late August, but apparently promoting Far From Home was more important. Also by then it would be on home video. So they would have needed a "real" extended edition to make extra cash.
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Post by scabab on Jun 28, 2019 20:38:39 GMT
Deadline is saying a $6.3 million weekend.
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Post by scabab on Jun 29, 2019 0:52:30 GMT
deadline.com/2019/06/avengers-endgame-re-release-avatar-record-spider-man-far-from-home-box-office-1202639520/According to that article on Deadline, they don't think that it's going to pass Avatar. "Youโd think the rerelease would be enough to get Endgame over the bump and past Avatar. Unfortunately, thatโs not expected, and if it happens, it would shock many in distribution circles. Even if Endgame in the next week grosses $10M-$15M worldwide, many say that final $22M-$27M will be an uphill slog that might require an additional theatrical rerelease should Disney decide to go the distance and outstrip the record owned by the mega-franchise filmmaker they inherited from Fox. Some in distribution circles even think Endgame ultimately wonโt out-peg Avatar."
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Post by darkpast on Jun 29, 2019 3:13:27 GMT
Is Kevin Feige and MCU actors desperate to pass Avatar , they keep begging their fans to see Endgame again on Instagram. Cameron never cheated to get the world record on a desperate rerelease. It would be one thing if Disney tuned this into a charitable event , they want to squeeze all the money out of their fans when they be pulling out their wallet again next week for Spidey.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:17:34 GMT
Is Kevin Feige and MCU actors desperate to pass Avatar , they keep begging their fans to see Endgame again on Instagram. Cameron never cheated to get the world record on a desperate rerelease. It would be one thing if Disney tuned this into a charitable event , they want to squeeze all the money out of their fans when they be pulling out their wallet again next week for Spidey. Cheated? They broken some kind of rule? Or acted dishonestly? According to Forbes Endgame beat Avatar's original run 4 days ago. www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/06/25/avengers-endgame-passes-avatar-original-box-office-run/#710c170c6b08Now it's just the battle between 2 movies that were rereleased. I saw Avatar's re-release I'll probably see Endgame's. Nothing in Avatar's re-release was groundbreaking and warranted a second theatrical run. I pretty sure the same will be said by Endgames.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 29, 2019 4:26:37 GMT
Is Kevin Feige and MCU actors desperate to pass Avatar , they keep begging their fans to see Endgame again on Instagram. Cameron never cheated to get the world record on a desperate rerelease. It would be one thing if Disney tuned this into a charitable event , they want to squeeze all the money out of their fans when they be pulling out their wallet again next week for Spidey. Cheated? They broken some kind of rule? Or acted dishonestly? According to Forbes Endgame beat Avatar's original run 4 days ago. www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/06/25/avengers-endgame-passes-avatar-original-box-office-run/#710c170c6b08Now it's just the battle between 2 movies that were rereleased. I saw Avatar's re-release I'll probably see Endgame's. Nothing in Avatar's re-release was groundbreaking and warranted a second theatrical run. I pretty sure the same will be said by Endgames. Avatar became the #1 film ever without a rerelease by huge margin. Its special edition just added to its lead after it was already the #1 movie of all time. Rereleases are fair but they still come with an *. If Endgame overtakes Avatar it was cause it needed a rerelease, something Avatar did on first release.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:29:31 GMT
Avatar became the #1 film ever without a rerelease by huge margin. Its special edition just added to its lead after it was already the #1 movie of all time. Rereleases are fair but they still come with an *. If Endgame overtakes Avatar it was cause it needed a rerelease, something Avatar did on first rerelease. And if Avatar never had a rerelease then Endgame would've beaten it outright 4 days ago.
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Post by dazz on Jun 29, 2019 4:31:51 GMT
Is Kevin Feige and MCU actors desperate to pass Avatar , they keep begging their fans to see Endgame again on Instagram. Cameron never cheated to get the world record on a desperate rerelease. It would be one thing if Disney tuned this into a charitable event , they want to squeeze all the money out of their fans when they be pulling out their wallet again next week for Spidey. Cheated? They broken some kind of rule? Or acted dishonestly? According to Forbes Endgame beat Avatar's original run 4 days ago. www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/06/25/avengers-endgame-passes-avatar-original-box-office-run/#710c170c6b08Now it's just the battle between 2 movies that were rereleased. I saw Avatar's re-release I'll probably see Endgame's. Nothing in Avatar's re-release was groundbreaking and warranted a second theatrical run. I pretty sure the same will be said by Endgames. I don't get where Forbes gets their Avatar numbers from but seems wrong, given they quote the rerelease earning $33m their math just doesn't add up, but regardless without the rerelease Endgame did or would win that original run record, which is why I say this seems more in line with trying to protect Avatar and appease Cameron is some way, the MCU doesn't need the record, that's the thing, Avatar however probably does need to own those records to promote Avatar 2 because I think most of the buzz about those films died pretty quickly and the long gestation period has just made them less interesting.
Had Endgame rereleased say late Jan or mid Feb of next year then I bet they would have been able to overtake Avatar's total by taking advantage of the slow movie season.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:32:15 GMT
Avatar became the #1 film ever without a rerelease by huge margin. Its special edition just added to its lead after it was already the #1 movie of all time. Rereleases are fair but they still come with an *. If Endgame overtakes Avatar it was cause it needed a rerelease, something Avatar did on first release. Technically speaking Endgame isn't a re-release. It's at best an Expansion as it was still in theaters. It's still on it's first run.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:36:23 GMT
I don't get where Forbes gets their Avatar numbers from but seems wrong, given they quote the rerelease earning $33m their math just doesn't add up, but regardless without the rerelease Endgame did or would win that original run record, which is why I say this seems more in line with trying to protect Avatar and appease Cameron is some way, the MCU doesn't need the record, that's the thing, Avatar however probably does need to own those records to promote Avatar 2 because I think most of the buzz about those films died pretty quickly and the long gestation period has just made them less interesting.
Had Endgame rereleased say late Jan or mid Feb of next year then I bet they would have been able to overtake Avatar's total by taking advantage of the slow movie season.
Yeah I can only figure that the international hasn't been updated since the 23rd and they are assuming it makes up the 3.5 million difference.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 29, 2019 4:36:52 GMT
Avatar became the #1 film ever without a rerelease by huge margin. Its special edition just added to its lead after it was already the #1 movie of all time. Rereleases are fair but they still come with an *. If Endgame overtakes Avatar it was cause it needed a rerelease, something Avatar did on first rerelease. And if Avatar never had a rerelease then Endgame would've beaten it outright 4 days ago. Do you think Endgame will pass Avatar? Probably pointless as Avatar 1 will probably get another rerelease to promote Avatar 2.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:39:11 GMT
And if Avatar never had a rerelease then Endgame would've beaten it outright 4 days ago. Do you think Endgame will pass Avatar? Probably pointless as Avatar 1 will probably get another rerelease to promote Avatar 2. slim chance, but a chance. I think it will come up a few million short.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 29, 2019 4:43:08 GMT
I don't get where Forbes gets their Avatar numbers from but seems wrong, given they quote the rerelease earning $33m their math just doesn't add up, but regardless without the rerelease Endgame did or would win that original run record, which is why I say this seems more in line with trying to protect Avatar and appease Cameron is some way, the MCU doesn't need the record, that's the thing, Avatar however probably does need to own those records to promote Avatar 2 because I think most of the buzz about those films died pretty quickly and the long gestation period has just made them less interesting.
Had Endgame rereleased say late Jan or mid Feb of next year then I bet they would have been able to overtake Avatar's total by taking advantage of the slow movie season.
I replied before I actually looked at the numbers they posted again. Avatar still reigns supreme as the highest-grossing movie of all time with $2.788 billion. However, that status includes its rerelease receipts worth $33 million. This past Sunday, Endgame topped $2.75 billion, beating Avatar's original $2.749 billion theatrical cume. 2.788-33 = 2.755 not 2.749 So yeah not exactly top notch reporting there.. I mean it was going to reach 2.755 without the rerelease, but they need to correct that.
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Post by dazz on Jun 29, 2019 4:46:29 GMT
I don't get where Forbes gets their Avatar numbers from but seems wrong, given they quote the rerelease earning $33m their math just doesn't add up, but regardless without the rerelease Endgame did or would win that original run record, which is why I say this seems more in line with trying to protect Avatar and appease Cameron is some way, the MCU doesn't need the record, that's the thing, Avatar however probably does need to own those records to promote Avatar 2 because I think most of the buzz about those films died pretty quickly and the long gestation period has just made them less interesting.
Had Endgame rereleased say late Jan or mid Feb of next year then I bet they would have been able to overtake Avatar's total by taking advantage of the slow movie season.
Yeah I can only figure that the international hasn't been updated since the 23rd and they are assuming it makes up the 3.5 million difference. I think they claim Avatar originally made $2.49b not $2.54/5b, which also means they must have Avatar's total numbers wrong by $6m also as they get the $33m rerelease right somehow
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