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Post by Aj_June on Apr 29, 2019 17:54:35 GMT
Although I am not a Dany fan, I can't help feeling amused that she has become the ultimate supervillain in minds of certain people. So far the false predictions about her: 1. She is coward who will run away to Essos when confronted with the Night King ->Turns out she fought bravely and didn't even think of going back to Essos.
2. She might push Jon from Dragon or do something to him during the battle of Winterfell because she now sees Jon as a threat to her reign - Turns out she saved life of Jon Snow for the 2nd time. 3. She is the common villain- Oh, you got to be joking? Right? The common villain is House Lannister (now Cersei alone is representative of Lannisters) who caused problems to Starks, Martels, Tyrells, House Tully, House Arryn etc. You surely have got be joking when you can't see that and imagine Dany is a common enemy.
Sorry, I know the 4th episode was heartbreaking for many fanatic haters of Dany but my advise is that keep your fantasies under check because Dany isn't a supervillain. Yeah, she might die in battle against Cersei but she is not going to be the character that almost all houses take hatred for. And please don't assume things about next episode. That she is the one who is dragging everyone to war. Arya's list is still alive....And Sansa doesn't trust a person in KL. It's like a silly child hating on one person. Stop this pettiness. If your fav characters are not getting appropriate importance that you believe they deserve then it is not the fault of other characters.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 29, 2019 18:22:28 GMT
Although I am not a Dany fan, I can't help feeling amused that she has become the ultimate supervillain in minds of certain people. So far the false predictions about her: 1. She is coward who will run away to Essos when confronted with the Night King ->Turns out she fought bravely and didn't even think of going back to Essos.
2. She might push Jon from Dragon or do something to him during the battle of Winterfell because she now sees Jon as a threat to her reign - Turns out she saved life of Jon Snow for the 2nd time. 3. She is the common villain- Oh, you got to be joking? Right? The common villain is House Lannister (now Cersei alone is representative of Lannisters) who caused problems to Starks, Martels, Tyrells, House Tully, House Arryn etc. You surely have got be joking when you can't see that and imagine Dany is a common enemy.
Sorry, I know the 4th episode was heartbreaking for many fanatic haters of Dany but my advise is that keep your fantasies under check because Dany isn't a supervillain. Yeah, she might die in battle against Cersei but she is not going to be the character that almost all houses take hatred for. And please don't assume things about next episode. That she is the one who is dragging everyone to war. Arya's list is still alive....And Sansa doesn't trust a person in KL. It's like a silly child hating on one person. Stop this pettiness. If your fav characters are not getting appropriate importance that you believe they deserve then it is not the fault of other characters.
She caused the death of a Dragon, of Raegal (the only true loss*), wasted her entire army in the most stupid battle plan ever, and got even Drogen almost killed. Sansa's and the Drogon's e survival is more or less the only thing I care about from now on. *The Red Woman and Beric Dondarrion fulfilled their destiny, Edd his duty as last Commandner of the Nightwatch. May they rest in peace. Theon died redeemed and as man.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 29, 2019 18:24:16 GMT
Although I am not a Dany fan, I can't help feeling amused that she has become the ultimate supervillain in minds of certain people. So far the false predictions about her: 1. She is coward who will run away to Essos when confronted with the Night King ->Turns out she fought bravely and didn't even think of going back to Essos.
2. She might push Jon from Dragon or do something to him during the battle of Winterfell because she now sees Jon as a threat to her reign - Turns out she saved life of Jon Snow for the 2nd time. 3. She is the common villain- Oh, you got to be joking? Right? The common villain is House Lannister (now Cersei alone is representative of Lannisters) who caused problems to Starks, Martels, Tyrells, House Tully, House Arryn etc. You surely have got be joking when you can't see that and imagine Dany is a common enemy.
Sorry, I know the 4th episode was heartbreaking for many fanatic haters of Dany but my advise is that keep your fantasies under check because Dany isn't a supervillain. Yeah, she might die in battle against Cersei but she is not going to be the character that almost all houses take hatred for. And please don't assume things about next episode. That she is the one who is dragging everyone to war. Arya's list is still alive....And Sansa doesn't trust a person in KL. It's like a silly child hating on one person. Stop this pettiness. If your fav characters are not getting appropriate importance that you believe they deserve then it is not the fault of other characters.
She caused the death of a Dragon, of Raegal (the only true loss*), wasted her entire army in the most stupid battle plan ever, and got even Drogen almost killed. Sansa's and the Drogon's e survival is more or less the only thing I care about from now on. *The Red Woman and Beric Dondarrion fulfilled their destiny, Edd his duty as last Commandner of the Nightwatch. May they rest in peace. Theon died redeemed and as man. Both dragons are alive and can be seen in the preview of the next episode.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 29, 2019 18:37:36 GMT
She caused the death of a Dragon, of Raegal (the only true loss*), wasted her entire army in the most stupid battle plan ever, and got even Drogen almost killed. Sansa's and the Drogon's e survival is more or less the only thing I care about from now on. *The Red Woman and Beric Dondarrion fulfilled their destiny, Edd his duty as last Commandner of the Nightwatch. May they rest in peace. Theon died redeemed and as man. Both dragons are alive and can be seen in the preview of the next episode. That would be great! I had the impression that the NK turned Rheagal along with the rest of his second wave, and it was him who attacked Jon. Are you sure. That would be the best news for today. There are even some Unsullied alive. Anyway: awesome that they both made it.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 29, 2019 18:40:19 GMT
Both dragons are alive and can be seen in the preview of the next episode. That would be great! I had the impression that the NK turned Rheagal along with the rest of his second wave, and it was him who attacked Jon. Are you sure. That would be the best news for today. Around 21st second mark into the preview.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 29, 2019 19:21:51 GMT
I was a proponent of 2 amd it's not because I'm a "Dany hater". I don't hate any of the characters, except maybe Euron and Sam.
And I'm not losing sleep about being wrong. There's still 3 episodes left, anyway.
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Post by Marv on Apr 29, 2019 19:46:33 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne.
People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past.
I can’t think of a scene ever showing her to be a coward tho. Nor is she a common villain. She may be villainous on occasion but she’s far from common. Euron is a common villain. Ramsey was a common villain. Joffrey was a common villain. Dany is more complicated morally and in her persuits.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 29, 2019 21:37:02 GMT
Around 21st second mark into the preview. Thank you for that, I missed that totally, it looked to me like Rhaegal had bought it.
There were a lot of characters I wondered about and had to watch their last sequences a few times to see if they'd bought it; Sam another I thought they implied was dead.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 30, 2019 0:00:23 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. Exactly. If I just found out I was sleeping with my nephew, my first reaction would be *intense gagging*, not "You have a claim to the throne? :/" Then she's been turning off her own allies, either by killing their family members or threatening to kill their family members. I can't see this building to a happy ending where everyone does a freeze frame high five. Then again, with how simply the WWs were dealt with, anything is possible. But if the rest of the show is really just "kill Cersei, take the thrown" and no further conflict, I'll be disappointment. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 0:30:45 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. Exactly. If I just found out I was sleeping with my nephew, my first reaction would be *intense gagging*, not "You have a claim to the throne? :/" Then she's been turning off her own allies, either by killing their family members or threatening to kill their family members. I can't see this building to a happy ending where everyone does a freeze frame high five. Then again, with how simply the WWs were dealt with, anything is possible. But if the rest of the show is really just "kill Cersei, take the thrown" and no further conflict, I'll be disappointment. Same here. If it just ends with something like Danys and Jon sharing the throne I'll be disappointed. I honestly want it to come down to one or the other and hopefully on my end that one of them dies. However I just think we're going to get an ending where they're both King and Queen or Danys is Queen and Jon is her Queensguard leader like Jaime.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 30, 2019 3:18:41 GMT
Although I am not a Dany fan, I can't help feeling amused that she has become the ultimate supervillain in minds of certain people. So far the false predictions about her: 1. She is coward who will run away to Essos when confronted with the Night King ->Turns out she fought bravely and didn't even think of going back to Essos.
2. She might push Jon from Dragon or do something to him during the battle of Winterfell because she now sees Jon as a threat to her reign - Turns out she saved life of Jon Snow for the 2nd time. 3. She is the common villain- Oh, you got to be joking? Right? The common villain is House Lannister (now Cersei alone is representative of Lannisters) who caused problems to Starks, Martels, Tyrells, House Tully, House Arryn etc. You surely have got be joking when you can't see that and imagine Dany is a common enemy.
Sorry, I know the 4th episode was heartbreaking for many fanatic haters of Dany but my advise is that keep your fantasies under check because Dany isn't a supervillain. Yeah, she might die in battle against Cersei but she is not going to be the character that almost all houses take hatred for. And please don't assume things about next episode. That she is the one who is dragging everyone to war. Arya's list is still alive....And Sansa doesn't trust a person in KL. It's like a silly child hating on one person. Stop this pettiness. If your fav characters are not getting appropriate importance that you believe they deserve then it is not the fault of other characters.
She caused the death of a Dragon, of Raegal (the only true loss*), wasted her entire army in the most stupid battle plan ever, and got even Drogen almost killed. Sansa's and the Drogon's e survival is more or less the only thing I care about from now on. *The Red Woman and Beric Dondarrion fulfilled their destiny, Edd his duty as last Commandner of the Nightwatch. May they rest in peace. Theon died redeemed and as man. It's silly to say any battle plan was stupid since it was a suicide mission only meant to stall until the NK arrived. Some goober was saying that they should have used the Dothraki horses to flank the zombies lol. I hope you weren't that goober.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 30, 2019 3:22:36 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. I can’t think of a scene ever showing her to be a coward tho. Nor is she a common villain. She may be villainous on occasion but she’s far from common. Euron is a common villain. Ramsey was a common villain. Joffrey was a common villain. Dany is more complicated morally and in her persuits. I can't think of a scene showing her do shady stuff. Considering Sam is flat out telling Jon to take the throne she has every reason be concerned. I think Dany is a ridiculously simple character and goals and ambitions are as obvious as the dragon she's riding on.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 30, 2019 3:25:12 GMT
Around 21st second mark into the preview. Thank you for that, I missed that totally, it looked to me like Rhaegal had bought it.
There were a lot of characters I wondered about and had to watch their last sequences a few times to see if they'd bought it; Sam another I thought they implied was dead.
Ghost can also be seen in the preview to next episode and is also featured in the next episode.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 30, 2019 3:25:46 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. Exactly. If I just found out I was sleeping with my nephew, my first reaction would be *intense gagging*, not "You have a claim to the throne? :/" Then she's been turning off her own allies, either by killing their family members or threatening to kill their family members. I can't see this building to a happy ending where everyone does a freeze frame high five. Then again, with how simply the WWs were dealt with, anything is possible. But if the rest of the show is really just "kill Cersei, take the thrown" and no further conflict, I'll be disappointment. You;re blaming her for her reaction, but it isn't like Jon came to her saying "Hey, Auntie!" He framed it in terms of lineage and legitimizing his claim (Although he's still a bastard the show ignores that so I will go along with it.) even if it was unintentional which we know in part it couldn't be since Sam planted the idea.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 30, 2019 3:32:12 GMT
Thank you for that, I missed that totally, it looked to me like Rhaegal had bought it.
There were a lot of characters I wondered about and had to watch their last sequences a few times to see if they'd bought it; Sam another I thought they implied was dead.
Ghost can also be seen in the preview to next episode and is also featured in the next episode. Missed that too, thanks!
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 30, 2019 4:12:02 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. I can’t think of a scene ever showing her to be a coward tho. Nor is she a common villain. She may be villainous on occasion but she’s far from common. Euron is a common villain. Ramsey was a common villain. Joffrey was a common villain. Dany is more complicated morally and in her persuits. And to me that’s what will make her a good villain. I think she will be so set on revenge that she might do something horrible. Like burning KL and causing innocent ppl to die because her anger that Cersei didn’t help. I feel like shes pissed off really bad and there’s more to her story
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 30, 2019 4:22:33 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. I can’t think of a scene ever showing her to be a coward tho. Nor is she a common villain. She may be villainous on occasion but she’s far from common. Euron is a common villain. Ramsey was a common villain. Joffrey was a common villain. Dany is more complicated morally and in her persuits. Just to clarify - I didn't mean to say Dany doesn't see Jon as a threat. She may see him as a threat and might even get into a fight with him. But she won't kill him in a sneaky way like pushing him off dragon or anything like that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 6:44:33 GMT
I'm personally hoping that we get Cersei's death either in episode 4 or 5 (Via Jaime/There should be no other option) and during that time we see somebody who was around for the Mad King to see Dany do something that gives them flashbacks *cough* Jaime *cough*. This leads to a final battle for the throne between Danys (who some are viewing as a return to the Mad King) and Jon. Maybe Jaime tries to kill Danys like he did her father and she executes him brutally that gets others to (ala Jon and his supporters) to turn against her seeing her as just like her father and the final fight begins. Idk, just spit ballin' here but I'd LOVE for Danys to become this big bad at the very end where she slowly and slowly becomes more and more like her father despite her constantly saying she's not her father.
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Post by Marv on Apr 30, 2019 9:37:22 GMT
Re: 2. Dany seeing Jon as a threat to her throne. People support this because of the way her character reacted to the news in ep2 and Dany has done some shady stuff in the past. I can’t think of a scene ever showing her to be a coward tho. Nor is she a common villain. She may be villainous on occasion but she’s far from common. Euron is a common villain. Ramsey was a common villain. Joffrey was a common villain. Dany is more complicated morally and in her persuits. I can't think of a scene showing her do shady stuff. Considering Sam is flat out telling Jon to take the throne she has every reason be concerned. I think Dany is a ridiculously simple character and goals and ambitions are as obvious as the dragon she's riding on. Betraying her deal for the Unsullied. Torturing the nobles of Mereen (or wherever). Burning captives alive. Didn’t she feed someone to her dragon in season 5 too? I mean these thing for the most part are cool because we hate the slavers but they aren’t exactly honorable acts. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 30, 2019 11:27:27 GMT
I can't think of a scene showing her do shady stuff. Considering Sam is flat out telling Jon to take the throne she has every reason be concerned. I think Dany is a ridiculously simple character and goals and ambitions are as obvious as the dragon she's riding on. Betraying her deal for the Unsullied. Torturing the nobles of Mereen (or wherever). Burning captives alive. Didn’t she feed someone to her dragon in season 5 too? I mean these thing for the most part are cool because we hate the slavers but they aren’t exactly honorable acts. She didn;t betray the deal. She gave a dragon for the Unsullied and then she invaded the city. They probably should have added peace treaty to the deal. She was not duplicitous in feeding someone to her dragon. She was punishing someone she thought was an enemy. She punishes people all the time with dragons. It's no different than beheadings or any other form of execution "honorable" men do.
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