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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 2:47:20 GMT
I love that he was a wreck. That was the right move. I was even kind of okay with it being mostly a joke. But... Just leaving Asgard to be a side kick to the GotG? I don't know. It'll be great to see him join that team, but it just felt like a bit of a disservice to the character. All that he has done and all the ways his character has grown - this just felt wrong. He deserved a better end to his arc. Innit or it innit? Also, He should've done the first snap. Not Banner
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Post by remusgrey on Apr 30, 2019 3:25:49 GMT
Gotta agree with you there. His journey was all about responsibility and kingship and the closure of his arc just ditched it. Hell, I didn't even like that he got an eye back in Infinity War.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 3:44:00 GMT
Gotta agree with you there. His journey was all about responsibility and kingship and the closure of his arc just ditched it. Hell, I didn't even like that he got an eye back in Infinity War. Yeah. I mean- Cap and Stark got immensely satisfying conclusions to their arcs. So it felt jarring for Thor to be treated so differently. It also undoes his arc in Ragnorock.
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Post by remusgrey on Apr 30, 2019 6:12:08 GMT
Gotta agree with you there. His journey was all about responsibility and kingship and the closure of his arc just ditched it. Hell, I didn't even like that he got an eye back in Infinity War. Yeah. I mean- Cap and Stark got immensely satisfying conclusions to their arcs. So it felt jarring for Thor to be treated so differently. It also undoes his arc in Ragnorock. Exactly, though I still feel like there was something wrong with how they wrapped up Cap's arc but it still felt satisfying nonetheless. I still do hope we get to see Thor in future MCU movies to fix what was done to his character in Endgame.
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Post by merh on Apr 30, 2019 9:11:28 GMT
Thor has long been a problem for these guys.
He always seems to get short shrift
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 12:16:23 GMT
Yeah. I mean- Cap and Stark got immensely satisfying conclusions to their arcs. So it felt jarring for Thor to be treated so differently. It also undoes his arc in Ragnorock. Exactly, though I still feel like there was something wrong with how they wrapped up Cap's arc but it still felt satisfying nonetheless. I still do hope we get to see Thor in future MCU movies to fix what was done to his character in Endgame. That's the upside, I guess. They just couldn't let him go because Ragnarok made so much money and Hemsworth wants to stay in the role. As much as the story dictates he should've gone into semi-retirement as the allfather, that doesn't make for a very exciting use of the character. Hopefully by the end of phase 4 he'll complete his arc fully and become the character he should be.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 14:10:31 GMT
Exactly, though I still feel like there was something wrong with how they wrapped up Cap's arc but it still felt satisfying nonetheless. I still do hope we get to see Thor in future MCU movies to fix what was done to his character in Endgame.That's the upside, I guess. They just couldn't let him go because Ragnarok made so much money and Hemsworth wants to stay in the role. As much as the story dictates he should've gone into semi-retirement as the allfather, that doesn't make for a very exciting use of the character. Hopefully by the end of phase 4 he'll complete his arc fully and become the character he should be. If you ask me, he should have unlocked the odinforce in IW, used that to fight off Thanos with 6 stones, and ended up dying in that final battle. That would have allowed Valkyrie to take over Asgard while also giving Thor his blaze of glory. |
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Post by remusgrey on Apr 30, 2019 14:15:27 GMT
That's the upside, I guess. They just couldn't let him go because Ragnarok made so much money and Hemsworth wants to stay in the role. As much as the story dictates he should've gone into semi-retirement as the allfather, that doesn't make for a very exciting use of the character. Hopefully by the end of phase 4 he'll complete his arc fully and become the character he should be. If you ask me, he should have unlocked the odinforce in IW, used that to fight off Thanos with 6 stones, and ended up dying in that final battle. That would have allowed Valkyrie to take over Asgard while also giving Thor his blaze of glory. This tbh tho I'm still glad Thor survived Endgame lol
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 30, 2019 14:18:53 GMT
They handled it perfectly. His story continues and is set up for the future.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 14:20:19 GMT
That's the upside, I guess. They just couldn't let him go because Ragnarok made so much money and Hemsworth wants to stay in the role. As much as the story dictates he should've gone into semi-retirement as the allfather, that doesn't make for a very exciting use of the character. Hopefully by the end of phase 4 he'll complete his arc fully and become the character he should be. If you ask me, he should have unlocked the odinforce in IW, used that to fight off Thanos with 6 stones, and ended up dying in that final battle. That would have allowed Valkyrie to take over Asgard while also giving Thor his blaze of glory. Would've been great but they clearly want to keep having fun with the character. I've made my peace with it. I just posted in another thread that I can see him finding himself again after being spiritually broken by the events of IW and Endgame. At least this way we get to enjoy his character for a few more films; and who says the scene you laid out doesn't occur at the end of a future film? I'm excited at the possibility already.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 30, 2019 14:31:47 GMT
Thor isn't a leaderand he finally realizes that after the end of the movie. He impulsive and has walked out on the team on multiple occasions. Hell, he did it in this movie after he cut Thanos' head off. He got drunk and went into a depression.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 30, 2019 14:37:33 GMT
Thor suffered from his own form of PTSD after the events of Ragnarok and IW. It took the form of alcoholism. By the end of Endgame he was able to overcome those demons and performed like the hero he is but his road to full recovery is still a long way ahead.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 14:46:29 GMT
Thor isn't a leaderand he finally realizes that after the end of the movie. He impulsive and has walked out on the team on multiple occasions. Hell, he did it in this movie after he cut Thanos' head off. He got drunk and went into a depression. Valkyrie went on a drunken spree for over a thousand years when her troupe got killed. Yet Thor entrusted new Asgard to her. |
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 30, 2019 15:21:58 GMT
Thor isn't a leaderand he finally realizes that after the end of the movie. He impulsive and has walked out on the team on multiple occasions. Hell, he did it in this movie after he cut Thanos' head off. He got drunk and went into a depression. Valkyrie went on a drunken spree for over a thousand years when her troupe got killed. Yet Thor entrusted new Asgard to her.So he makes bad decisions then?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 15:32:10 GMT
Valkyrie went on a drunken spree for over a thousand years when her troupe got killed. Yet Thor entrusted new Asgard to her.So he makes bad decisions then? When the movie needs him to, yes. Despite the fact that he's proven to make good decisions in other movies. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 30, 2019 15:36:02 GMT
Valkyrie has proven herself, so I don't think that's a bad decision. However, everyone does make both good and bad decisions sometimes.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 30, 2019 16:02:14 GMT
So he makes bad decisions then? When the movie needs him to, yes. Despite the fact that he's proven to make good decisions in other movies. Good players make good decisions on the field/court all the time. The best ones do it more than others. It still doesn't make them good leaders.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 16:12:52 GMT
When the movie needs him to, yes. Despite the fact that he's proven to make good decisions in other movies. Good players make good decisions on the field/court all the time. The best ones do it more than others. It still doesn't make them good leaders. Guess we'll never know if Thor is a good leader, because he never even tried.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 30, 2019 16:18:45 GMT
Thor is a warrior.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:26:36 GMT
They handled it perfectly. His story continues and is set up for the future. Always the positive one, aren't you, Taylor. 
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