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Post by lunda2222 on May 31, 2019 1:30:50 GMT
Satan, the word sounds rather disgusting to those whose minds are preoccupied with some ideas they have through others or reading the Bible.
But what if I claimed Satan is in point of fact a freedom seeker and does not want to submit to the tyranny of God?
God wants that all submit to his command, Satan, uncommon and un-submissive launched a number of raids and did not want to coordinate with God. He therefore raised or inspired his legions seeking distinct space for them.
In today's world also if any freedom fighters set themselves against the tyranny of their rulers they will be exiled.
Satan is in everyone of us, inherently, and we do not become explicit dreading the unthinkable.
Do not take Satan differently. He is like all of us who want a self chosen government and he does not want any dictator to govern over us.
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Post by maya55555 on May 31, 2019 1:42:48 GMT
THAT'S NICE, BUT SATAN WANTS YO'ASS AND FOR YOU TO WORSHIP HIM!
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Post by Vegas on May 31, 2019 2:15:49 GMT
Everyone is the hero of their own story.
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Post by maya55555 on May 31, 2019 2:51:51 GMT
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 3:23:52 GMT
Satan, the word sounds rather disgusting to those whose minds are preoccupied with some ideas they have through others or reading the Bible. But what if I claimed Satan is in point of fact a freedom seeker and does not want to submit to the tyranny of God? God wants that all submit to his command, Satan, uncommon and un-submissive launched a number of raids and did not want to coordinate with God. He therefore raised or inspired his legions seeking distinct space for them. In today's world also if any freedom fighters set themselves against the tyranny of their rulers they will be exiled. Satan is in everyone of us, inherently, and we do not become explicit dreading the unthinkable. Do not take Satan differently. He is like all of us who want a self chosen government and he does not want any dictator to govern over us. No. Satan is actually the one who keeps people enslaved, by becoming addicted to their sinful natures.
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 3:27:02 GMT
You discovered the core truth of Satanism. It's about cosmic rebellion against an unjust order. The serpent gave Eve the fruit of knowledge. This symbolizes the evolution of man from a dumb brute to an embryonic god. Oh please. The eating of the forbidden fruit was not a liberating experience for the first man & woman. The first thing they both experienced, was the shame at the site of their bodies, & it caused the first marital breakdown between the both of them, with everyone blaming others for their own decisions.
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Post by maya55555 on May 31, 2019 4:13:00 GMT
Just think of the Serpent as the first divorce lawyer.
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 4:21:31 GMT
Just think of the Serpent as the first divorce lawyer. Yep, & Asmodeus as the SECOND divorce lawyer.
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 4:44:58 GMT
Oh please. The eating of the forbidden fruit was not a liberating experience for the first man & woman. The first thing they both experienced, was the shame at the site of their bodies, & it caused the first marital breakdown between the both of them, with everyone blaming others for their own decisions. The forbidden fruit is the difference between men and monkeys. And women too - since lets not forget Eve started the whole damn thing. God wanted us to be naked apes. Satan led us out of ignorance. It's never been some simplistic war between good and evil. Is knowledge evil? Is brute ignorance good? Human beings already evolved from primates, by the time God Revealed Himself to His Creation. The Serpent didn't tempt primates, he tempted human beings. And knowledge & wisdom are not gifts from the Devil, they are Gifts Of the Holy Spirit (God) (Isaiah chapter 11, verses 1 - 2).
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Post by maya55555 on May 31, 2019 5:26:20 GMT
gameboy
Or so Adam chickened out and stated. Women have been paying that bill since then. We are weaker, dumber, incapable of learning, cursed with painful labor and are considered inferior to men. Even Siddharta (the Buddha) felt that women were incapable of enlightenment and refused to create an (order of nuns) or should I say, have women followers.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 31, 2019 10:24:54 GMT
It's been claimed before. Those who want to see Satan as a freedom fighter can do so at their own peril.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 10:26:06 GMT
No, 'he/it' is a symbolic metaphor, not an entity.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 31, 2019 10:40:40 GMT
No, 'he/it' is a symbolic metaphor, not an entity. I've heard the same said about God.
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 14:27:47 GMT
Human beings already evolved from primates, by the time God Revealed Himself to His Creation. The Serpent didn't tempt primates, he tempted human beings. And knowledge & wisdom are not gifts from the Devil, they are Gifts Of the Holy Spirit (God) (Isaiah chapter 11, verses 1 - 2). The story is allegorical for the evolution of man from beast. At some point an ape became a man. This is what the ancients tried to explain with the story of Adam and Eve. At some point you have to reconcile the fruit from the tree of knowledge, given by Satan to man, with gifts given later by the Holy Spirit. It's not black and white. First of all, Satan didn't give ANYTHING to man. Simply telling someone to eat something that they are not supposed to, is not giving them anything. That tree with its fruit was there for them to eat at any given time, but, until Satan came along, the first couple was willing to obey God. While yes, the first few chapters of the Book of Genesis is allegorical for evolution, the part about man evolving from animals had already occurred, by the time of the eating of the forbidden fruits. Genesis chapter 1, verse 26: And God Said "Let us make man in our own image and likeness, let us make him in command of all the fish in the sea, and and all that flies in the air, and the cattle, and the whole earth...." Man's disobedience to God, via the temptation of the Serpent, was the ancients explaining why we do horrible things, ever since we evolved from primates. Even right in this very day, we have "Forbidden Fruits." Young people are not permitted to a)drink anything with alcohol; b)smoke tobacco; c)smoke or do narcotics (actually, many of the last item are forbidden no matter how old you are). So, kids try to go out of their way to have these things, & often times, end up in serious trouble.
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Post by clusium on May 31, 2019 14:28:19 GMT
No, 'he/it' is a symbolic metaphor, not an entity. Yes he is.
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Post by general313 on May 31, 2019 14:56:48 GMT
You discovered the core truth of Satanism. It's about cosmic rebellion against an unjust order. The serpent gave Eve the fruit of knowledge. This symbolizes the evolution of man from a dumb brute to an embryonic god. Oh please. The eating of the forbidden fruit was not a liberating experience for the first man & woman. The first thing they both experienced, was the shame at the site of their bodies, & it caused the first marital breakdown between the both of them, with everyone blaming others for their own decisions. If I were Adam or Eve I would have given God a really bad review on Trip Advisor.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 31, 2019 15:26:57 GMT
Human beings already evolved from primates, by the time God Revealed Himself to His Creation. The Serpent didn't tempt primates, he tempted human beings. And knowledge & wisdom are not gifts from the Devil, they are Gifts Of the Holy Spirit (God) (Isaiah chapter 11, verses 1 - 2). The story is allegorical for the evolution of man from beast. At some point an ape became a man. This is what the ancients tried to explain with the story of Adam and Eve. At some point you have to reconcile the fruit from the tree of knowledge, given by Satan to man, with gifts given later by the Holy Spirit. It's not black and white. Interesting point of view, and exchange.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 31, 2019 16:45:44 GMT
Do people assume freedom fighting is always good?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 18:26:01 GMT
Do people assume freedom fighting is always good?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 31, 2019 18:41:48 GMT
Do people assume freedom fighting is always good? so I assume that’s a yes.
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