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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 5, 2019 3:01:06 GMT
Rock , 1950 - 1996 r.i.p.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 5, 2019 3:26:23 GMT
Why 1996? I agree the late 90s weren't the best time for rock if that's you're getting at (nu-metal, Blink 182 inspired pop-punk)
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Jun 5, 2019 4:42:20 GMT
It depends on what you're referring to. Rock as music, never, no genre truly dies and honestly it's a great time to be a music fan given how much we have access to.
Now rock as a culture or movement, there can certainly be an argument made there. Even that side though will give you claims of yes or no depending on who you ask.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 5, 2019 5:36:00 GMT
Even votes , so far. For once I might actually be on to something!
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Post by gw on Jun 5, 2019 6:21:56 GMT
I don't know whether rock has died but I have yet to listen to a fresh sounding good normal rock song that's better than The Servant's song Cells. Rock music nowadays is just a bunch of boring softly sung or emo raging (It's okay to act angry but only when you're feeling depressed)guys and it's boring to listen to. And metal isn't any better. Just about every metal song I've heard sounds like it's checking off boxes in its respective subgenre. Yowie is good, progressive rock, but they release material slowly and they're an instrumental band. Once you get outside the blues influences and the typical instruments like electric guitar, electric bass, and drums, rock music can be sort of an arbitrary label.
Personally I only refer to 50's and early 60's rock as rock and roll. But I seem to be in the minority on that.
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Post by permutojoe on Jun 5, 2019 11:23:50 GMT
Dead, just not buried yet.
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Post by nostromo on Jun 5, 2019 11:30:40 GMT
It depends on what you're referring to. Rock as music, never, no genre truly dies and honestly it's a great time to be a music fan given how much we have access to. Now rock as a culture or movement, there can certainly be an argument made there. Even that side though will give you claims of yes or no depending on who you ask. ^ This is the correct answer.
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Post by alpha128 on Jun 5, 2019 11:31:40 GMT
I voted no. Just yesterday I started a thread in the Rock form entitled 2019 Rock/Metal Album Releases. That is in addition to my threads on 2015, 2016-ish, 2017, and 2018 Rock/Metal Album Releases. As TutuAnimationPrincess wrote, there is an incredible amount of Rock music out there. However, don't expect to find great Rock songs on the radio. That's as implausible a scenario as sitting outside with your mouth open and expecting to subsist on whatever falls into your mouth. Maybe a nice berry will land once in a while, but the majority of what you'll get is going to be bugs and bird droppings. I stopped listening to traditional radio a long time ago. YouTube has been my "radio station" for years. If you really want to hear great music, go there. At this moment, I've got another 420 albums on YouTube bookmarked for future evaluation. |
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Post by sjg on Jun 5, 2019 13:15:52 GMT
No, it's alive and kicking. You just need to find it.
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Post by Zos on Jun 5, 2019 13:48:36 GMT
Everytime someone asks such a boring and predictable question an angel dies.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 5, 2019 14:55:49 GMT
There are plenty of good rock groups and songs you just need to know where to look.
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Post by Vits on Jun 5, 2019 21:23:08 GMT
As the years go by, more and more sub-genres are born. Among the most popular sub-genres, there was at last 1 rock one in each of the previous 6 decades. This decade though has been mostly about pop and hip-hop. That doesn't mean rock is dead; just not mainstream.
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Post by alpha128 on Jun 6, 2019 1:27:21 GMT
There are plenty of good rock groups and songs you just need to know where to look. Agreed.
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Post by someguy on Jun 6, 2019 14:29:14 GMT
Rock itself is not dead, just its cultural relavence.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 7, 2019 6:08:11 GMT
Well, I will say that some 90's music that I never did care for like:
The smashing pumpkins, jane's addiction, and Pantera...are so much better than rock music of today. That by comparison they're actually great.
The music that used to be mediocre for me, is like 'the best music' ever made (but only)'compared' to how far rock has fallen since!
I can't say these bands suck any more. That's one good things about rock and roll being dead. I can appreciate bands from the past...lol.
Nothing could make me appreciate Weezer though. uh uh no way.
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Post by alpha128 on Jun 7, 2019 12:34:33 GMT
That's one good things about rock and roll being dead. I can appreciate bands from the past...lol. I agree with you that the later half of 1990s was a "Dark Ages" for Rock. The thing is though, in the early 2000s, it started coming back. However, major labels and commercial radio stations largely stopped producing and promoting new Rock, while independent labels and internet streaming services (e.g. YouTube) drove the resurgence. I've purchased nearly 190 Rock/Metal CDs released in this century, so Rock is far from dead. I suppose it's a true statement to say Rock is no longer mainstream. But the mainstream isn't the same thing it once was. Streaming has forever changed music consumption, and traditional radio is shrinking at best and dying at worst. The democratization of music is here, and I think it's a good thing.
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Post by sjg on Jun 7, 2019 12:44:39 GMT
I'll always be a rock and metal fan and i don't mind any of the genres over the years. I didn't mind grunge and nu-metal so the 90's and 00's was still a happy time for me. I grew up on glam and hair metal so i'll have a nostalgic like for that kind of rock and there has been some amazing stuff coming out of the Scandinavian scene over the past few years but it's far from mainstream and it's only because i frequent some good music forums that i found out about it.
The metal scene has never faltered and is as strong today as it's ever been in my opinion. I enjoy any music that has a power to it so all genres of metal fascinate me and there has been some real gems in the last few years.
So for me rock and metal is as strong if not stronger now than when i was young and i enjoy the hunt for a new favourite track.
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Post by alpha128 on Jun 7, 2019 13:06:36 GMT
So for me rock and metal is as strong if not stronger now than when i was young and i enjoy the hunt for a new favourite track. I agree. I too enjoy the hunt for new bands and albums. However, with so much new music out there, it can be labor-intensive to find those albums worthy of purchase. That's why I've been posting my favorite 2015, 2016-ish, 2017, 2018, and 2019 albums over in the Rock forum. I'm hoping to save some work for like-minded music fans. 
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Post by sjg on Jun 7, 2019 13:50:14 GMT
So for me rock and metal is as strong if not stronger now than when i was young and i enjoy the hunt for a new favourite track. I agree. I too enjoy the hunt for new bands and albums. However, with so much new music out there, it can be labor-intensive to find those albums worthy of purchase. That's why I've been posting my favorite 2015, 2016-ish, 2017, 2018, and 2019 albums over in the Rock forum. I'm hoping to save some work for like-minded music fans. I've just got my first hi-res DAP with some decent IEMs so my focus is shifting back towards music over film at the moment so i should check in to your threads when i get a chance. I've just had a look through your 2018 thread and you have good taste! I liked every track.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 7, 2019 18:16:34 GMT
As someone else said a while back, … we had the best rock ever made in the '60's. With you know which band obviously.
Then, as more and more time goes by, we are getting farther away from that.
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