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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 10, 2019 15:25:31 GMT
the problem with people who are defending mcu blindly all seem to have shallow minds. they are quick to jump on high box office success, useless claim of popularity and so called critical acclaim that disney buys. these folks seem to know so little about movie making like aniston or socrsese are talking about. Neither do you, and your reading comprehension skills could not be any worse. Superhero movies in particular and big budget 'McMovies' in general are not Scorsese's area of interest as a filmmaker, the closest you may ever get to him directing anything Marvel or DC is the Wolverine comic in display in The Departed. He spoke about Marvel movies because he was being asked about them since they are dominating the marketplace, and again he did not show favoritism to any sort of other superhero feature from another studio he was speaking generally, which is also what Aniston is doing but she is not talking about quality she is saying that because they are so dominant in an crowded marketplace more original works are sometimes ignored and original concepts do not receive as much attention when pitched to studios due to not being commercial enough.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 10, 2019 15:27:30 GMT
So why was 'The Lion King' turned out to be a critical disappointment? I need to hear this.
Lion King does not need to be a critical success, it's not a real movie. its a cash grab. the real movie came out in 1994.
You totally dodged their question.
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Post by scabab on Oct 10, 2019 16:04:12 GMT
All movies are cash grabs, you can tell a ton of effort went into making The Lion King, it's probably one of the most visually Impressive movies ever.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 10, 2019 16:21:27 GMT
When something becomes extremely successful, it's usually because the great majority of the populace enjoys it. What Jennifer said is, to put it bluntly, quite selfish. It's basically the same as saying the wants and likes of the greater majority doesn't matter as much as what she thinks is important.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 10, 2019 17:44:04 GMT
I don’t agree with her statement. It’s not like everybody is into the marvel movies. Other kinds of movies are not in direct competition with it. Different fan base
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 10, 2019 17:46:23 GMT
I don’t agree with her statement. It’s not like everybody is into the marvel movies. Other kinds of movies are not in direct competition with it. Different fan base Fast as a shark, he'll cut out of the dark He's a killer, he'll rip out your heart On a one way track and you're not coming back 'Cause the killer's on the attack
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2019 18:58:30 GMT
What Scorcese and Aniston don't get is that its not Marvel's "fault" that they're popular. It's the audiences fault. Its the audiences who are making Marvel popular. People see what they want to see, not what some company wants them to see. Make a good movie that's popular with audiences and they will come. Scorsese has done it in the past.
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Post by darkpast on Oct 11, 2019 1:02:56 GMT
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 14, 2019 1:19:22 GMT
I wonder if Angelina Jolie being in Eternals is also a factor in Jennifer's bitterness towards the MCU??
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Post by hobowar on Oct 14, 2019 3:49:17 GMT
I wonder if Angelina Jolie being in Eternals is also a factor in Jennifer's bitterness towards the MCU??
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Post by hobowar on Oct 14, 2019 3:49:34 GMT
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Post by merh on Oct 14, 2019 6:15:32 GMT
I never watched Friends. Can't say I've seen any of her movies for her. Horrible Bosses...Office Christmas Party...Bruce Almighty. Not a lot I've seen her in. Jon Favreau Paul Rudd She should have just joined them like Paul Rudd did.
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Post by merh on Oct 14, 2019 13:55:46 GMT
I know, because they're still getting made and I go to see them every week. They are, but they're not getting the distribution or advertising of the Marvel and DC (and like-minded) productions. And box-office lives and dies on both. Fewer of these films get made every year because of that fact. Because the masses arent paying to see them. She does rom-coms mostly. They still make.plenty of those. Problem is they also tend to end up under $100 mill gross. Many end up under $50 mill. It's the thing to bitch about superhero movies. Before them, there were other films that made money. The Star Wars type. The popcorn summer blockbusters. Some comedies make a lot, but there's no real way to predict a My Big Fat Greek Wedding or Pretty Woman. So, sorry, it does come off a little sour grapes. I know RDJ said Scorsese is Scorsese so how can he be jealous, but his latest film is getting a very limited release through no fault of superhero flicks, though he may blame them. So the biggest movie chains arent touchingbit because Netflix is doing a short to streaming window. Maybe even the fact he had to go to Netflix to get his movie made might be the issue. I sat through the Comic-con panel in Hall H in 2011 for Twixt because I wanted to see the next panel, though I forget what it was. The panel was sad. Francis Ford Coppola pitching a film that looked dreadful, rambling about vineyards. So maybe Scorsese is not happy with the route his film is taking to the big screen, but that's not the fault of superhero films, but the public that bitch endlessly about how much it costs to see a film in a movie theater when they can just Netflix & chill something else. And once someone this big bitches, others can pile on. Honestly, Aniston is lucky to have a career still. The bigger threat to her career is the age bias women in Hollywood face. She is 50. That's mom & friend of the young lead age. Character role age. I remember reading an article about how amazing it was Rene Russo was appearing in The Thomas Crown Affair & a Lethal Weapon movie over age 40. Hollywood prefers its leading actresses closer to 30.
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Post by merh on Oct 14, 2019 15:05:26 GMT
Superheroes are an easy target.
Has anyone else noticed all the horror films in theaters any given month?
It seems like they are there every month. When I was younger, they came out late summer/fall, & were gone by Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 2:22:42 GMT
Poor MCU, they are getting trashed left and right. Marvel needs to prove themselves and the only way is to start making real stand alone mature movies like the past when it was just those old xmen films , Blade and logan, Spiderman 2 ofcourse. Excuse me when was the last time Aniston was in something good?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 16, 2019 8:15:15 GMT
Poor MCU, they are getting trashed left and right. Marvel needs to prove themselves and the only way is to start making real stand alone mature movies like the past when it was just those old xmen films , Blade and logan, Spiderman 2 ofcourse. Excuse me when was the last time Aniston was in something good? About 15 years ago in my opinion. Others may disagree
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Post by darkpast on Oct 16, 2019 8:41:18 GMT
Theaters owners are to be blamed here. When Endgame came out on opening weekend a strange thing happened I never seen in my life, theaters with like 16 screens gave 12 of them to the Disney flick, how does help anyone besides making a quick buck.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 16, 2019 10:02:29 GMT
Theaters owners are to be blamed here. When Endgame came out on opening weekend a strange thing happened I never seen in my life, theaters with like 16 screens gave 12 of them to the Disney flick, how does help anyone besides making a quick buck. That's really not the Theaters fault perse. End Game was a special situation. As you said you haven't seen it before. The owners expected a huge demand. The worst thing a theater owner could do is to turn customers away for one show and have 10 theaters showing something else with only 5-10 seats occupied in each. So they took the risk for the opening weekend (and usually in most cases it was just the opening weekend) of having more theaters showing it. The demand was so high they were running out of seats for the showings after the added the theaters. Hell I read in some cities they offered showings 24/7. My local had showings around every hour from Thursday to Sunday. Also theaters aren't doing the best right now. Any chance to make more money is good for the theaters which keeps them solvent and have the ability to show other movies in the future.
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Post by darkpast on Oct 16, 2019 15:37:19 GMT
Theaters owners are to be blamed here. When Endgame came out on opening weekend a strange thing happened I never seen in my life, theaters with like 16 screens gave 12 of them to the Disney flick, how does help anyone besides making a quick buck. That's really not the Theaters fault perse. End Game was a special situation. As you said you haven't seen it before. The owners expected a huge demand. The worst thing a theater owner could do is to turn customers away for one show and have 10 theaters showing something else with only 5-10 seats occupied in each. So they took the risk for the opening weekend (and usually in most cases it was just the opening weekend) of having more theaters showing it. The demand was so high they were running out of seats for the showings after the added the theaters. Hell I read in some cities they offered showings 24/7. My local had showings around every hour from Thursday to Sunday. Also theaters aren't doing the best right now. Any chance to make more money is good for the theaters which keeps them solvent and have the ability to show other movies in the future. they did turn away customers by showing only one movie, it's a bandaid fix for theaters that only pay them shortterm
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 16, 2019 15:53:53 GMT
That's really not the Theaters fault perse. End Game was a special situation. As you said you haven't seen it before. The owners expected a huge demand. The worst thing a theater owner could do is to turn customers away for one show and have 10 theaters showing something else with only 5-10 seats occupied in each. So they took the risk for the opening weekend (and usually in most cases it was just the opening weekend) of having more theaters showing it. The demand was so high they were running out of seats for the showings after the added the theaters. Hell I read in some cities they offered showings 24/7. My local had showings around every hour from Thursday to Sunday. Also theaters aren't doing the best right now. Any chance to make more money is good for the theaters which keeps them solvent and have the ability to show other movies in the future. they did turn away customers by showing only one movie, it's a bandaid fix for theaters that only pay them shortterm My point was that it was an isolated case for 1 opening weekend. They saw the demand rising weeks before EndGame came out. They reacted to that by offering more showings than normal. And it turned out they were correct in betting on getting more showings of End Game than having fewer showings of it and more showing of other movies. You can tell because they kept on adding showings as the opening weekend loomed. Again theaters were having around the clock showings. They did this to meet the demand for it. You yourself said that you had never seen it before. This bares out with the opening numbers globally for Endgame. It was a special situation. If this happened all the time, which it doesn't by your own admission, or if continued weeks after Endgame opened then you may have a point. That's not what happened. They simply saw a large demand for 1 movie opening and not so much for others already out. There wasn't another big draw for that weekend anyway. Most studios didn't even try to compete with the Opening of Endgame. This empowered the theaters to dump other movies from showings so Endgame could have more for that opening.
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