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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 19, 2019 12:12:55 GMT
Who do you yourself think is the Number 1 Worst Team Owner in the NFL as of Today ?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 19, 2019 12:37:23 GMT
Daniel Snyder by a million miles.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Nov 19, 2019 17:49:02 GMT
ALL the Packers owners. Each and every one.
Oh wait. You probably mean real owners. As in, ones who actually own the team and not someone fooling themselves into pretending to be an owner? Right. My bad.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 19, 2019 18:01:52 GMT
Daniel Snyder by a million miles. He's the owner of the Washington Redskins right ?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 19, 2019 18:04:22 GMT
Daniel Snyder by a million miles. He's the owner of the Washington Redskins right ? Yes that’s right. Some people might say the owners of the Dolphins, Jets, Jaguars, Chargers, or Browns would be the worst, but they’d all be wrong. It’s Snyder in a landslide.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2019 18:43:08 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway.
The only thing I can think of is dictating a low payroll, and that would only really happen in baseball, and those teams are usually the ones with super low revenue.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Nov 19, 2019 19:05:06 GMT
Daniel Snyder bought his way into that distinction.
Mike Brown earned it, mostly coasting on his father's accomplishments.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Nov 19, 2019 19:07:49 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. The only thing I can think of is dictating a low payroll, and that would only really happen in baseball, and those teams are usually the ones with super low revenue. Ya know, no matter how any team does win or lose, the owners always come out as the winners since they end up making all that money anyway. Well, except for Packers "owners" who never see a penny from the team.
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Post by NewtJorden on Nov 19, 2019 19:15:13 GMT
Daniel Snyder, Mike Brown and Christopher Johnson.
Oh and maybe Dean Spanos too.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2019 19:17:08 GMT
Oh and maybe Dean Spanos too. If the goal is making tons of free money, then Spanos is a genius.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 19, 2019 19:26:43 GMT
God rest his soul but there isn't an owner you can name that will ever be worst than Bill Bidwill(Cardinals). Believe me, Daniel Snyder couldn't sniff Bidwill's wallet.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 19, 2019 19:29:36 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. I take it you're unfamiliar with this man: Or this man:
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2019 19:39:34 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. I take it you're unfamiliar with this man: Or this man: Al Davis knew football better than most, and the RAIDERS had both success and failure under him. Are you counting him as a good owner or a bad owner? He is also dead, and therefore not really relevant to the question at hand. Jerry Jones is not nearly as involved as people think he is. And same question, are you counting him as a good owner or a bad owner?
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 19, 2019 19:43:57 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. The only thing I can think of is dictating a low payroll, and that would only really happen in baseball, and those teams are usually the ones with super low revenue. Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... And there are plenty of things that owners do that are bad for the team. The Bengals sticking with Marvin Lewis about a decade longer than they should have is a problem from the top. The Giants forcing Tom Coughlin to hire his own replacement and then letting the GM gut the roster to tank the team so they could kick Coughlin out the door and promote their boy was John Mara's fault. The Jets hiring a GM who hired Adam Gase and then promptly firing that same GM because he didn't get along with the coach is a failure of the Woody Johnson. Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Then there's Dan snyder who has never done anything right.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2019 19:45:41 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. The only thing I can think of is dictating a low payroll, and that would only really happen in baseball, and those teams are usually the ones with super low revenue. Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... And there are plenty of things that owners do that are bad for the team. The Bengals sticking with Marvin Lewis about a decade longer than they should have is a problem from the top. The Giants forcing Tom Coughlin to hire his own replacement and then letting the GM gut the roster to tank the team so they could kick Coughlin out the door and promote their boy was John Mara's fault. The Jets hiring a GM who hired Adam Gase and then promptly firing that same GM because he didn't get along with the coach is a failure of the Woody Johnson. Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Then there's Dan snyder who has never done anything right. Why would you count JJ as "bad"? He really is not involved anymore, and back when he was, the Cowboys were an All Time great team.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 19, 2019 19:49:43 GMT
Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... And there are plenty of things that owners do that are bad for the team. The Bengals sticking with Marvin Lewis about a decade longer than they should have is a problem from the top. The Giants forcing Tom Coughlin to hire his own replacement and then letting the GM gut the roster to tank the team so they could kick Coughlin out the door and promote their boy was John Mara's fault. The Jets hiring a GM who hired Adam Gase and then promptly firing that same GM because he didn't get along with the coach is a failure of the Woody Johnson. Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Then there's Dan snyder who has never done anything right. Why would you count JJ as "bad"? He really is not involved anymore, and back when he was, the Cowboys were an All Time great team. He’s meddlesome, maybe not as much as he used to be but he’s still the de facto GM. I attribute that dynasty they had to Jimmy Johnson. Today he’s not the worst owner in the league, but I wouldn’t want him buying a team I root for.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:01:36 GMT
I take it you're unfamiliar with this man: Or this man: Al Davis knew football better than most, and the RAIDERS had both success and failure under him. Are you counting him as a good owner or a bad owner? He is also dead, and therefore not really relevant to the question at hand. Jerry Jones is not nearly as involved as people think he is. And same question, are you counting him as a good owner or a bad owner? Al Davis was a terrible owner at the end and his son is even worse. Jones has his hands very much in the cookie jar and both team's recent failures are a result of the ownership.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:06:22 GMT
I don't really understand what would even make someone a "bad owner", as they are not really involved with personnel or coaching decisions, anyway. The only thing I can think of is dictating a low payroll, and that would only really happen in baseball, and those teams are usually the ones with super low revenue. Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Millen is the worst GM of all time? Um, this guy wants to say something...
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 19, 2019 20:12:13 GMT
Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... And there are plenty of things that owners do that are bad for the team. The Bengals sticking with Marvin Lewis about a decade longer than they should have is a problem from the top. The Giants forcing Tom Coughlin to hire his own replacement and then letting the GM gut the roster to tank the team so they could kick Coughlin out the door and promote their boy was John Mara's fault. The Jets hiring a GM who hired Adam Gase and then promptly firing that same GM because he didn't get along with the coach is a failure of the Woody Johnson. Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Then there's Dan snyder who has never done anything right. Why would you count JJ as "bad"? He really is not involved anymore, and back when he was, the Cowboys were an All Time great team. I didn't list him as bad. I listed him as being involved in personell decisions.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 19, 2019 20:18:38 GMT
Except for when they are, like Jerry Jones... Then there's the type of owner like the Ford family who just didnt care at all and left the team alone and in doing so allowed Matt Millen to hang around for way too long when he was just about the least successful GM in the history of the NFL. Millen is the worst GM of all time? Um, this guy wants to say something... He's got the distinction of being the architect of the first 0-16 team, and that was just the culmination of years of fuck ups. Maybe not the worst in the history of the league, but I don't know how you qualify it. I just remember him taking a receiver year in and year out with his annual top five draft pick when 3vertone knee that was the dumbest way to try to build a team. Either way, bad ownership let him hang around.
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