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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 17:38:12 GMT
Heeeey ... just stop. This is pathetic. And seek help: the inability to own it when caught red handed like this is beyond fucked up. Why should I lie? Ego? NPD? Could be any number of reasons. But lie you did, and it fits the general pattern of your “qualifications always sprout after encountered in others” habits. The fact that you did it is disturbing; the fact that you can’t keep from continuing to lie about it is just sad. Get some help.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 17:41:06 GMT
Yeah, taken in single doses, these don’t seem that out there. The notion she was a bass player wasn’t exactly over the top. But if you look at her posting history, she’s a lot like Molar/Maya on RFS: qualifications and experiences always seem to sprout AFTER encountering a challenge. I think Maya had given herself seven different degrees at one point because she couldn’t remember which lies she already told. Smelled funny and I thought I’d check and, yep: one of those. Now she’s trying “Well, I USED to be a bass player...” when the conversation in which she insisted she was a bass player is less than 24 months old. She can’t stop lying. And your only retarded deduction for that is ... That you lied about being a bass player when being a bass player was necessary to support your points, and it highlights a pattern with you. Tossing names like an irate teen won’t make it go away. Stopping lying and staying in your topical lane might.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 17:42:03 GMT
Ego? NPD? Could be any number of reasons. But lie you did, and it fits the general pattern of your “qualifications always sprout after encountered in others” habits. The fact that you did it is disturbing; the fact that you can’t keep from continuing to lie about it is just sad. Get some help. Like I said, you think if someone who doesn't idolize Paul McCartney they are of course lying.
IMO, you're a textbook case of projecting.
I'm not the only one in the world who doesn't like Paul McCartney or the Beatles, moron. There are better musicians than you who also don't like them. Funny how you gloss over what Quincy Jones said about them.
I'm not including George Harrison. He was a great guitar player and songwriter.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 17:42:56 GMT
And your only retarded deduction for that is ... That you lied about being a bass player when being a bass player was necessary to support your points, and it highlights a pattern with you. Tossing names like an irate teen won’t make it go away. Stopping lying and staying in your topical lane might. What do you consider a 'bass player'? I used to own a bass guitar and I could play it. What do you call that?
P.S. You can call me a liar and anything else you want, but I've never been so insecure and egotistical that I needed to try to 'catch' someone supposedly lying just to pretend I'm the 'real' deal, as you so lamely tried to do. Your dick probably grew two inches making it four, just from thinking you 'trapped' me somehow. You probably don't even know a Phrygian scale from your own ass. Lol
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 18:09:35 GMT
Ego? NPD? Could be any number of reasons. But lie you did, and it fits the general pattern of your “qualifications always sprout after encountered in others” habits. The fact that you did it is disturbing; the fact that you can’t keep from continuing to lie about it is just sad. Get some help. Like I said, you think if someone who doesn't idolize Paul McCartney You can burn him in effigy if you like, stop deflecting. My only issue is that you make shit up as the debate requires. “I USED TO PLAY BASS!” 😂 It was less than 24 months ago. What is wrong with you? Why make yourself look worse?
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 18:11:25 GMT
That you lied about being a bass player when being a bass player was necessary to support your points, and it highlights a pattern with you. Tossing names like an irate teen won’t make it go away. Stopping lying and staying in your topical lane might. What do you consider a 'bass player'? Someone who says they are a bass player. Like you did. Months ago. Stop digging. It’s deep enough.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 18:16:20 GMT
What do you consider a 'bass player'? Someone who says they are a bass player. Like you did. Months ago. Stop digging. It’s deep enough. I don't play the bass for a living. I'm not a professional bass player, but I can play it. Again, I haven't played it for a long time and even forgot about it. If that means I'm 'lying' about knowing how to play it, fine. I hope you feel like you proved something.
And I'm tired of handing you your ass, because I could do that all day long. Bye.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 18:22:51 GMT
Someone who says they are a bass player. Like you did. Months ago. Stop digging. It’s deep enough. I don't play the bass for a living. That’s cool. I don’t like okra. See, now, you’re complicating the lie on the other forum: you just went over there to say “people don’t mention instruments they haven’t played in years” when you stated your instrument was bass in a thread more recent than my registration date. See what happens? You were either lying then or lying now. Given that magical late game “What? I did! My prose got rave reviews!” device you pulled earlier, I suspect it’s both, and it’s chronic. Be honest with yourself, Heeeey: how long have you been flat out making shit up to have a place in a debate? You don’t have to answer me, just be honest with yourself.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 19:55:15 GMT
I don't play the bass for a living. That’s cool. I don’t like okra. See, now, you’re complicating the lie on the other forum: you just went over there to say “people don’t mention instruments they haven’t played in years” when you stated your instrument was bass in a thread more recent than my registration date. See what happens? You were either lying then or lying now. Given that magical late game “What? I did! My prose got rave reviews!” device you pulled earlier, I suspect it’s both, and it’s chronic. Be honest with yourself, Heeeey: how long have you been flat out making shit up to have a place in a debate? You don’t have to answer me, just be honest with yourself. Like I told you in the other thread, if you think the bass is a huge stretch from the guitar, you're retarded.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 4, 2019 20:36:26 GMT
That’s cool. I don’t like okra. See, now, you’re complicating the lie on the other forum: you just went over there to say “people don’t mention instruments they haven’t played in years” when you stated your instrument was bass in a thread more recent than my registration date. See what happens? You were either lying then or lying now. Given that magical late game “What? I did! My prose got rave reviews!” device you pulled earlier, I suspect it’s both, and it’s chronic. Be honest with yourself, Heeeey: how long have you been flat out making shit up to have a place in a debate? You don’t have to answer me, just be honest with yourself. Like I told you in the other thread, if you think the bass is a huge stretch from the guitar, you're retarded. and you resort to name calling and swearing when you feel cornered …. you name call and swear a LOT
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 20:55:15 GMT
Like I told you in the other thread, if you think the bass is a huge stretch from the guitar, you're retarded. and you resort to name calling and swearing when you feel cornered …. you name call and swear a LOT She also does this wonderful thing my students used to do when caught out lying: starts providing way too many tangential, unasked-for details to cloud the lie, then rebuts something never said as a deflection. “The bass is a huge stretch from the guitar”, “Just because I don’t worship McCartney!”, etc... no one ever said these things. It’s what kids do when they’re trying to cover. But yeah, the frantic name calling it another juvenile resort.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 20:56:10 GMT
That’s cool. I don’t like okra. See, now, you’re complicating the lie on the other forum: you just went over there to say “people don’t mention instruments they haven’t played in years” when you stated your instrument was bass in a thread more recent than my registration date. See what happens? You were either lying then or lying now. Given that magical late game “What? I did! My prose got rave reviews!” device you pulled earlier, I suspect it’s both, and it’s chronic. Be honest with yourself, Heeeey: how long have you been flat out making shit up to have a place in a debate? You don’t have to answer me, just be honest with yourself. Like I told you in the other thread, if you think the bass is a huge stretch from the guitar, you're retarded. Responding to things no one has said won’t cover the lie. Sorry.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Dec 4, 2019 21:13:51 GMT
Just perused this thread, but only skimmed through the last couple of pages. I'm gonna tag heeeeey, Cinemachinery and WarrenPeace, although this is a general opinion on some of the subjects. Heeeyy and I have been down the "hates McCartney" road until the cows come home, and went back out. Paul is an exceptional musical talent, dear. You are in the 1/1000 of 1% when you claim he is as 'bad' or 'untalented' as you often do. You are entitled to your opinion. Quincy Jones, much like Miles Davis, has criticized many famous artists musical proficiency. But the truth is? You don't have to play a sax as well as Charlie Parker to make good music. Kurt Cobain set the world on fire with his very simple 3-4 chord songs. Might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but a lot of people liked it. Technique is but a piece of the puzzle when looking at a song writer/musicians contributions. Inspiration vs perspiration? Depends on who you ask. For some, it's mostly inspiration. For others, the opposite. I imagine for most, it's a combination of the two. I know for me, the catchy idea/tune always came first, but finishing it up into a 3-6 minute song the band would play was difficult most of the time.Warren, for the record, "Let It Be", the project was initially called the "Get Back" project. The idea was, they were going to get away from all the studio tricks, and 'get back' to their roots culminating in a live gig to be filmed. But the Beatles disintegrated before any of it came to be. So instead, they made one final 'proper album', Abbey Road. They gave the "Get Back" tapes to Phil Spector to produce, and while he left some cuts alone? He put big production values on about half the recordings, basically taking away from the original concept. It could be said the original "Let It Be" album was nothing like it was planned to be, and "Naked" was closer in spirit to it. If you ask me, they should just 'clean up the quality' of the original Glyn John's mixes, and release them as is. A simple google search of "Get Back Sessions Glyn Johns Mixes" will give one all they need to know about it, plus access to the raw bootlegs. Guitar playing vs bass playing. Well, sure, the notes are the same. But the instruments provide two different functions. As one who has played both as an amateur and professional, I would say this. Knowing 'how' to play a bass because one is a guitar player, does not make a good bassist. There is a totally different mindset to playing a bass in popular music. If one were to start a band and wanted to sound really the best they could? If they had a choice between Jimi Hendrix or I to play bass? They'd be better off picking me, probably. At least until he was playing it awhile. You can't just get up there and start shredding blues licks: there's a decided function to bass playing. To be clear, I'm talking about bass guitar. Bass guitar is a modern version of a stand up bass, or even tuba. The only genre where bass guitar largely mimics guitar is blues rock/metal, etc. Everything else is mostly different. While Paul McCartney never played with the proficiency of a James Jamerson, Jaco Pastorius, Jack Bruce, Geddy Lee, etc? He grew into the role rather well. I don't think John or George could have pulled it off, and he was as good a guitar player as those two. He also brought his considerable talent for writing simple melodies to the electric bass. I'm pretty confident if the Beatles had had a technical whiz on bass, a Bruce or an Entwistle? They wouldn't be remembered the same way they are now. I also think it took some time for Paul. While he was always melodic in everything he does (<---his pure gift, that)? It took him to say, 1965, 1966 to start really contributing the always clever basslines he is now world known for. Just my ten cents.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 21:23:04 GMT
Like I told you in the other thread, if you think the bass is a huge stretch from the guitar, you're retarded. Responding to things no one has said won’t cover the lie. Sorry. If you choose to not include a fact about yourself, it's not a lie. You don't even know the definition of a lie on top of everything else.
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 4, 2019 21:27:32 GMT
Just perused this thread, but only skimmed through the last couple of pages. I'm gonna tag heeeeey , Cinemachinery and WarrenPeace , although this is a general opinion on some of the subjects. Heeeyy and I have been down the "hates McCartney" road until the cows come home, and went back out. Paul is an exceptional musical talent, dear. You are in the 1/1000 of 1% when you claim he is as 'bad' or 'untalented' as you often do. You are entitled to your opinion. Quincy Jones, much like Miles Davis, has criticized many famous artists musical proficiency. But the truth is? You don't have to play a sax as well as Charlie Parker to make good music. Kurt Cobain set the world on fire with his very simple 3-4 chord songs. Might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but a lot of people liked it. Technique is but a piece of the puzzle when looking at a song writer/musicians contributions. Inspiration vs perspiration? Depends on who you ask. For some, it's mostly inspiration. For others, the opposite. I imagine for most, it's a combination of the two. I know for me, the catchy idea/tune always came first, but finishing it up into a 3-6 minute song the band would play was difficult most of the time.Warren, for the record, "Let It Be", the project was initially called the "Get Back" project. The idea was, they were going to get away from all the studio tricks, and 'get back' to their roots culminating in a live gig to be filmed. But the Beatles disintegrated before any of it came to be. So instead, they made one final 'proper album', Abbey Road. They gave the "Get Back" tapes to Phil Spector to produce, and while he left some cuts alone? He put big production values on about half the recordings, basically taking away from the original concept. It could be said the original "Let It Be" album was nothing like it was planned to be, and "Naked" was closer in spirit to it. If you ask me, they should just 'clean up the quality' of the original Glyn John's mixes, and release them as is. A simple google search of "Get Back Sessions Glyn Johns Mixes" will give one all they need to know about it, plus access to the raw bootlegs. Guitar playing vs bass playing. Well, sure, the notes are the same. But the instruments provide two different functions. As one who has played both as an amateur and professional, I would say this. Knowing 'how' to play a bass because one is a guitar player, does not make a good bassist. There is a totally different mindset to playing a bass in popular music. If one were to start a band and wanted to sound really the best they could? If they had a choice between Jimi Hendrix or I to play bass? They'd be better off picking me, probably. At least until he was playing it awhile. You can't just get up there and start shredding blues licks: there's a decided function to bass playing. To be clear, I'm talking about bass guitar. Bass guitar is a modern version of a stand up bass, or even tuba. The only genre where bass guitar largely mimics guitar is blues rock/metal, etc. Everything else is mostly different. While Paul McCartney never played with the proficiency of a James Jamerson, Jaco Pastorius, Jack Bruce, Geddy Lee, etc? He grew into the role rather well. I don't think John or George could have pulled it off, and he was as good a guitar player as those two. He also brought his considerable talent for writing simple melodies to the electric bass. I'm pretty confident if the Beatles had had a technical whiz on bass, a Bruce or an Entwistle? They wouldn't be remembered the same way they are now. I also think it took some time for Paul. While he was always melodic in everything he does (<---his pure gift, that)? It took him to say, 1965, 1966 to start really contributing the always clever basslines he is now world known for. Just my ten cents. I know full well what the functions of the bass player and other musicians in a band are. The bass player needs to be in sync with the drummer and is part of the rhythm section. A lot of guitarists can switch from guitar to bass. But if one them says they play the guitar and doesn't see any reason to say they play bass because they haven't played in a long time, is that a lie?
And I never disputed Paul's abilities. I said that if you can find the worst song the Beatles ever recorded, Paul probably wrote it.
Both John and Yoko didn't like him. And he himself said in an interview that Yoko told him in so many words to fuck off when he called her after John was killed.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 4, 2019 22:02:03 GMT
Responding to things no one has said won’t cover the lie. Sorry. If you choose to not include a fact about yourself, it's not a lie. 🙄 Keep switching it up. It will only get more complicated. You’d think you’d learn.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2019 22:26:09 GMT
Just perused this thread, but only skimmed through the last couple of pages. I'm gonna tag heeeeey , Cinemachinery and WarrenPeace , although this is a general opinion on some of the subjects. Heeeyy and I have been down the "hates McCartney" road until the cows come home, and went back out. Paul is an exceptional musical talent, dear. You are in the 1/1000 of 1% when you claim he is as 'bad' or 'untalented' as you often do. You are entitled to your opinion. Quincy Jones, much like Miles Davis, has criticized many famous artists musical proficiency. But the truth is? You don't have to play a sax as well as Charlie Parker to make good music. Kurt Cobain set the world on fire with his very simple 3-4 chord songs. Might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but a lot of people liked it. Technique is but a piece of the puzzle when looking at a song writer/musicians contributions. Inspiration vs perspiration? Depends on who you ask. For some, it's mostly inspiration. For others, the opposite. I imagine for most, it's a combination of the two. I know for me, the catchy idea/tune always came first, but finishing it up into a 3-6 minute song the band would play was difficult most of the time.Warren, for the record, "Let It Be", the project was initially called the "Get Back" project. The idea was, they were going to get away from all the studio tricks, and 'get back' to their roots culminating in a live gig to be filmed. But the Beatles disintegrated before any of it came to be. So instead, they made one final 'proper album', Abbey Road. They gave the "Get Back" tapes to Phil Spector to produce, and while he left some cuts alone? He put big production values on about half the recordings, basically taking away from the original concept. It could be said the original "Let It Be" album was nothing like it was planned to be, and "Naked" was closer in spirit to it. If you ask me, they should just 'clean up the quality' of the original Glyn John's mixes, and release them as is. A simple google search of "Get Back Sessions Glyn Johns Mixes" will give one all they need to know about it, plus access to the raw bootlegs. Guitar playing vs bass playing. Well, sure, the notes are the same. But the instruments provide two different functions. As one who has played both as an amateur and professional, I would say this. Knowing 'how' to play a bass because one is a guitar player, does not make a good bassist. There is a totally different mindset to playing a bass in popular music. If one were to start a band and wanted to sound really the best they could? If they had a choice between Jimi Hendrix or I to play bass? They'd be better off picking me, probably. At least until he was playing it awhile. You can't just get up there and start shredding blues licks: there's a decided function to bass playing. To be clear, I'm talking about bass guitar. Bass guitar is a modern version of a stand up bass, or even tuba. The only genre where bass guitar largely mimics guitar is blues rock/metal, etc. Everything else is mostly different. While Paul McCartney never played with the proficiency of a James Jamerson, Jaco Pastorius, Jack Bruce, Geddy Lee, etc? He grew into the role rather well. I don't think John or George could have pulled it off, and he was as good a guitar player as those two. He also brought his considerable talent for writing simple melodies to the electric bass. I'm pretty confident if the Beatles had had a technical whiz on bass, a Bruce or an Entwistle? They wouldn't be remembered the same way they are now. I also think it took some time for Paul. While he was always melodic in everything he does (<---his pure gift, that)? It took him to say, 1965, 1966 to start really contributing the always clever basslines he is now world known for. Just my ten cents. I know full well what the functions of the bass player and other musicians in a band are. The bass player needs to be in sync with the drummer and is part of the rhythm section. A lot of guitarists can switch from guitar to bass. But if one them says they play the guitar and doesn't see any reason to say they play bass because they haven't played in a long time, is that a lie?
And I never disputed Paul's abilities. I said that if you can find the worst song the Beatles ever recorded, Paul probably wrote it.
Both John and Yoko didn't like him. And he himself said in an interview that Yoko told him in so many words to fuck off when he called her after John was killed.
Revolution 9 written by John with help from George and Yoko. 'Nuff said. Dig a Pony by Lennon is also pretty awful (he agreed).
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Post by Admin on Dec 4, 2019 22:31:30 GMT
I know full well what the functions of the bass player and other musicians in a band are. The bass player needs to be in sync with the drummer and is part of the rhythm section. A lot of guitarists can switch from guitar to bass. But if one them says they play the guitar and doesn't see any reason to say they play bass because they haven't played in a long time, is that a lie? And I never disputed Paul's abilities. I said that if you can find the worst song the Beatles ever recorded, Paul probably wrote it. Both John and Yoko didn't like him. And he himself said in an interview that Yoko told him in so many words to fuck off when he called her after John was killed. Revolution 9 written by John with help from George and Yoko. 'Nuff said. Dig a Pony by Lennon is also pretty awful (he agreed). To be fair, Revolution 9 isn't really a song. I wonder if John liked Paul before Yoko came into the picture.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2019 22:37:14 GMT
Revolution 9 written by John with help from George and Yoko. 'Nuff said. Dig a Pony by Lennon is also pretty awful (he agreed). To be fair, Revolution 9 isn't really a song. Yeah, that's how bad it is!
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Dec 4, 2019 22:40:43 GMT
Just perused this thread, but only skimmed through the last couple of pages. I'm gonna tag heeeeey , Cinemachinery and WarrenPeace , although this is a general opinion on some of the subjects. Heeeyy and I have been down the "hates McCartney" road until the cows come home, and went back out. Paul is an exceptional musical talent, dear. You are in the 1/1000 of 1% when you claim he is as 'bad' or 'untalented' as you often do. You are entitled to your opinion. Quincy Jones, much like Miles Davis, has criticized many famous artists musical proficiency. But the truth is? You don't have to play a sax as well as Charlie Parker to make good music. Kurt Cobain set the world on fire with his very simple 3-4 chord songs. Might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but a lot of people liked it. Technique is but a piece of the puzzle when looking at a song writer/musicians contributions. Inspiration vs perspiration? Depends on who you ask. For some, it's mostly inspiration. For others, the opposite. I imagine for most, it's a combination of the two. I know for me, the catchy idea/tune always came first, but finishing it up into a 3-6 minute song the band would play was difficult most of the time.Warren, for the record, "Let It Be", the project was initially called the "Get Back" project. The idea was, they were going to get away from all the studio tricks, and 'get back' to their roots culminating in a live gig to be filmed. But the Beatles disintegrated before any of it came to be. So instead, they made one final 'proper album', Abbey Road. They gave the "Get Back" tapes to Phil Spector to produce, and while he left some cuts alone? He put big production values on about half the recordings, basically taking away from the original concept. It could be said the original "Let It Be" album was nothing like it was planned to be, and "Naked" was closer in spirit to it. If you ask me, they should just 'clean up the quality' of the original Glyn John's mixes, and release them as is. A simple google search of "Get Back Sessions Glyn Johns Mixes" will give one all they need to know about it, plus access to the raw bootlegs. Guitar playing vs bass playing. Well, sure, the notes are the same. But the instruments provide two different functions. As one who has played both as an amateur and professional, I would say this. Knowing 'how' to play a bass because one is a guitar player, does not make a good bassist. There is a totally different mindset to playing a bass in popular music. If one were to start a band and wanted to sound really the best they could? If they had a choice between Jimi Hendrix or I to play bass? They'd be better off picking me, probably. At least until he was playing it awhile. You can't just get up there and start shredding blues licks: there's a decided function to bass playing. To be clear, I'm talking about bass guitar. Bass guitar is a modern version of a stand up bass, or even tuba. The only genre where bass guitar largely mimics guitar is blues rock/metal, etc. Everything else is mostly different. While Paul McCartney never played with the proficiency of a James Jamerson, Jaco Pastorius, Jack Bruce, Geddy Lee, etc? He grew into the role rather well. I don't think John or George could have pulled it off, and he was as good a guitar player as those two. He also brought his considerable talent for writing simple melodies to the electric bass. I'm pretty confident if the Beatles had had a technical whiz on bass, a Bruce or an Entwistle? They wouldn't be remembered the same way they are now. I also think it took some time for Paul. While he was always melodic in everything he does (<---his pure gift, that)? It took him to say, 1965, 1966 to start really contributing the always clever basslines he is now world known for. Just my ten cents. I know full well what the functions of the bass player and other musicians in a band are. The bass player needs to be in sync with the drummer and is part of the rhythm section. A lot of guitarists can switch from guitar to bass. But if one them says they play the guitar and doesn't see any reason to say they play bass because they haven't played in a long time, is that a lie?
And I never disputed Paul's abilities. I said that if you can find the worst song the Beatles ever recorded, Paul probably wrote it.
Both John and Yoko didn't like him. And he himself said in an interview that Yoko told him in so many words to fuck off when he called her after John was killed.
Look, I'm not going to speak to 'who's a liar and who isn't'. I'm just saying? Being a guitar player and just switching to bass, easy as pie? Not really, not if the guitar/bass person wants to be a good bassist, who melodically pushes the rhythm section . It's two completely different approaches. Bass has far more in common with piano or even a horn section than a guitar. Two completely different registers, which play different roles in the way our modern ears have been culturally trained to hear music. Knowing the notes, and being able to play guitar licks on a bass is rudimentary at best. That might work for a very simple blues rock outfit, covering Mountain, Cream, Black Sabbath or even some Led Zep, but? Not going to help one much when getting out of that limited genre. BTW, I love that limited genre, but it's almost invisible today. Running 8th notes in Van Halen ain't going to help one play Motown, or modern R&B. BTW, I'm one who got into bass playing the way you said: I used to do acoustic acts at wine and cheese dinner bars, jammed with other guitarists in my off time, and? When we had three guitars, drums, keyboard and a hot young female vocalist? The three of us had to figure out who was going to do the bass. You know how I 'won/lost' that decision? The other two players had more money and equipment than I did, and supplied me with a bass and a rig. Our vocalist used to complain about the 3 of us 'competing' even after I'd moved to bass. She was right. But I didn't believe it back then. I was a very decent guitar player, as good as the other two (at least), and? Like you say? Was absolutely convinced my knowledge of notes and technique on the fretboard was all there was to it. In my defense, I was only 17 at the time, and never even considered playing bass. I didn't want to, TBH. It wasn't until long after that band was gone, the usmc,a professional career in the workforce later, that? A few friends of mine asked me to do bass as a 'favor' until they could find someone permanent. I was about 25 or so. Playing the kind of stuff (heavy blues rock). We were OK, got a couple of local paying gigs, and? I wanted to not play with a pick, so I bought a couple of books, started reading bass player magazine, studied motown, beatles, weather report, yes, the police, miles davis, stanley clarke, darryl jones (who basically wound up replacing Wyman in the Stones to make money: he had played for sting and miles davis earlier in his career). It was only then that I began to understand what bass playing is really about. It really is 'apples and oranges'. I'm pushing back on the idea that 'any guitarist can play bass', etc. A guitar player who plays a bass sometimes is often enough exactly that: a guitar player playing a bass. Not a bassist. There is decidedly a difference. Oh, BTW? "John hates Paul". That's just the kind of BS one used to read in Creem or Circus magazine in the 70's to sell copies. I've explained this to you many times, you willfully choose not to even consider it. The Beatles were like brothers. They all knew who they were, and weren't afraid to snipe at each other in public. Which has nothing to do with 'hate'.
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