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Post by dazz on Jan 18, 2020 20:33:01 GMT
I think it depends on how the story is told, Dragon Ball goes through numerous rewrites when dubbed for a new market or special edition. In some versions they do make it seem quite likely that Vegeta at that stage in the series was totally a planet buster, other instances his threat to Goku is more of an exaggeration of the damage he could do(Not saying he wouldn't have done zilch but not quite planet busting levels to where it literally all be dust and speckles). Vegeta I've got to say goes through some really radical shifts in personality with every dub, sometimes they write him as too egotistical, sometimes too selfish, and other times more complex, thoughtful, and caring - and in the case of the Saiyan saga the Ocean version made him pretty much into a psychopath who would cackle like The Joker. It's weird though, because he's not too hard to figure out. I'll say Chris Sabat does well with the character regardless of change though - wish he was a better and nicer guy in real life(The Vic Mignogna situation has revealed a lot that is just sad). Yeah, they did, wish they had shown Cell to be a planet buster but I think Toriyama was just rushing to get to an end there. I'd think he'd be able to destroy the planet if he could. Likely not in one immediate go like Frieza did with Planet Vegeta but probably in the same way he destroyed Planet Namely so that Vegeta would have had enough time to get on his Spacepod and leave. It's awkward for that series because the characters are that powerful that they can't really show it off in a convenient way. That's why you get these escalating boasts. So Vegeta said he could destroy Earth, Cell said he could destroy a Solar System, they said Goku and Beerus clashing a few times could destroy the Universe, Beerus and Champa fighting would destroy two Universe and Kefla said she could destroy a Universe in one shot. Nothing of which was shown though. Doubtful in all honesty, that means EVERY fighting character apart from the nameless Frieza force grunts were all planet busters, makes way more sense Vegeta was just bluffing to force Goku to combat his blast, also they wouldn't need to reference major attacks like Vegeta's Final Flash or Goku's Instant Transmition Kamehameha as being enough to destroy the planet in later episodes.
Or it makes later villains incredibly weak at times, Yakon was 3-4 times more powerful than a planet buster, which if Saiyan Saga Vegeta's Gallick Gun was a planet buster that means Yakon was a mere 60k-under 100k and yet he was meant to potentially be strong enough to battle a fighter that had 1/6th the power of Majin Buu?
DBZ is whacky with their power levels though, but the most reasonable assumption to make in trying to make things make sense is that Vegeta was bluffing and Goku simply didn't know better.
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Post by scabab on Jan 18, 2020 21:05:19 GMT
Doubtful in all honesty, that means EVERY fighting character apart from the nameless Frieza force grunts were all planet busters Well that has to be almost true anyway. Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta in his first form and pretty much every character after him was stronger than that. Destroying a planet isn't supposed to be anything of note. King Cold saw Earth and said it could just be destroyed in one shot and he's weaker than Frieza. Even by the non canon movies you had Dr Wheelo who also said he was gonna destroy Earth and he was also about as strong as Vegeta when he said that. Those nameless grunts you mentioned, even they should all be able to effortlessly destroy a moon because Piccolo could at the start of the series. You kind of lost me there a bit. Are you referring to the fact that it supposedly takes 200-300 Kili to destroy a planet and Yakon has 800 Kili? I see what you mean but that shouldn't really add up because Super Saiyan Goku had 3,000 Kili which should make it so that normal Goku had only 60 Kili and would then be unable to destroy a planet but that wouldn't make sense because he was far stronger than the Frieza who did destroy Planet Vegeta.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 10, 2022 23:28:26 GMT
Avengers from the movies? Probably not unless they're able to use the Infinity Gauntlet.
This is also assuming that Buu doesn't just straight up destroy the Earth.
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