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Post by amyghost on Mar 14, 2020 14:27:45 GMT
It's ramping up around the area where I live. Lots of events being canceled/postponed, schools shutting down for the next two weeks, things of that nature. Not personally in a panic about getting it, but I do worry about some family members who are older, and some who are battling illness and have weakened immune systems. Haven't as of yet seen the really insane over-reactions (people having fistfights over basic necessities and whatnot), but I suppose that could happen if businesses start closing or sharply reducing their hours. It's to be hoped this thing can be gotten under control before those types of situations start becoming more widespread. I think it's proper to be very concerned about this disease, but I'm not sure a bit of panic scenario isn't being promoted, wittingly or unwittingly, in the coverage surrounding it. One just needs to do the smart thing and the smartest one is for people to stop buying into all the government and media fearmongering. Social media wasn't widespread when SARS was out in the 90's and the panic wasn't as far reaching. It is being manipulated now.
To all those cases that have been identified, or so they tell us because misdiagnosis can play a factor as well, what percentage of the world population have had flu symptoms since coronovirus was made public and not sought medical establishment involvement or treatment? Could they have had the virus and just treated it like any other flu, rested, drank fluids, too generic cold and flu tablets and then got over it and went back to living as normal? One builds up an immune system as well to these things. It is not AIDS.
An airborne virus like all flu's and it all depends on the health and resistance of the person that contacts it to begin with. I have been lucky that I have escaped a nasty flu bug in over 12months. Are the deaths largely from those that are susceptible like the very elderly who tend to kark more easily from these things anyway.
Billions of people all over the world have no issue with sharing bodily fluids in a sexual manner, including tonguing each other on the mouth and now they are panicked over bulls<>t. I had a very nasty case of what I took to be flu last year, from late October into November, and it was actually well into December before I began to feel really well again. I'm almost now beginning to wonder if it might possibly have been coronavirus, but no way of being sure after the fact. I'd had flu a couple of times in the past--and walking pneumonia once, some years back--but this seemed different in some ways. I suppose the real concern is over the possibility of a Spanish-flu like epidemic, that killed thousands globally in 1918, and the fact that the spread may be intensified and aggravated by the sheer mobility of much larger segments of the public than was possible at that time. The guess being that if hundreds of thousands could die at that more travel-primitive time, the chances of spread of infection and fatalities running into possible millions is so much greater now.
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Post by Autumn on Mar 14, 2020 15:57:58 GMT
I think this would be so much more manageable if people didn't panic-buy. There are a percentage of people hoarding huge amounts of toilet paper, sanitizer, alcohol, etc., and then people who are elderly, pregnant or who have just given birth, who are actually sick and need to take better care of themselves....are all left with nothing because a few people want to pack their carts every day and fill their basement with 6 months worth of products.
There's a difference between being prepared, and being selfish.
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Post by Harmless elf on Mar 14, 2020 16:07:48 GMT
I think this would be so much more manageable if people didn't panic-buy. There are a percentage of people hoarding huge amounts of toilet paper, sanitizer, alcohol, etc., and then people who are elderly, pregnant or who have just given birth, who are actually sick and need to take better care of themselves....are all left with nothing because a few people want to pack their carts every day and fill their basement with 6 months worth of products. There's a difference between being prepared, and being selfish. the only reason to hoard toilet paper would be if manufacturing was going to to stop I'm sorry but a little virus that kills people over 80 is not going to cease manufacturing.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Mar 14, 2020 16:15:37 GMT
I just killed a guy for toilet paper. "I'm afraid it's one per customer."
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Post by Nora on Mar 14, 2020 18:58:28 GMT
had the cinema practically to myself today. twas awesome.
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Post by dirtypillows on Mar 14, 2020 19:18:50 GMT
I'm not worried about it at all. The news is always scaremongering. This is what I think as well. Those who have the power want to keep everybody else under their control and the easiest way to manage this is stir up fear. I have noticed some changes, like at the grocery store, there were 26 people in line ahead of me. And, yes, face masks and dirty looks if you should have to cough. It's not the best of human nature. Isn't corona also the crown of the penis?
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Post by sjg on Mar 14, 2020 19:20:58 GMT
There is a toilet roll situation here on the east coast of the UK. We get a pack of 9 about once every couple of months and we actually needed some today and it took a couple of hours to track some down but we are all good now. Like others have said pasta, rice and tinned goods are gone from the shelves and things like hard wipes and sanitizer are scarce. The medicine shelves were decimated today everywhere.
I haven't seen anyone wearing masks yet and our local town was amazingly busy for this time of year with plenty of tourists visiting the beach and the arcades. If there wasn't any panic buying going on you wouldn't know there is a pandemic happening.
I'm taking this seriously and will stay away from people as much as possible. We are both self employed and we can do a lot of what we do remotely. We have cancelled all engagements for the foreseeable future and we'll ride it out from here and like others have said we are concerned about our parents.
We are big fans of motorsport and we've never seen meetings abandoned like this. I very much doubt there will be any racing this year which has never happened before.
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Post by paislene on Mar 14, 2020 21:15:11 GMT
Half the countryside did not burn down, so stop exaggerating. What part of Australia are you from , Toasted Cheese ? I'll admit I was being dramatic , but it is basically true . The country is in serious crisis and it isn't going to be remedied by the powers that be anymore . Thousands are without a home because of the fires , government and public support for them is waning , and people are beginning to starve . Everyday purchaseable items are difficult to obtain . Regions are beginning to be isolated , and thousands are being laid off because of that and the impending coronavirus , which is spreading and now includes some of the government .
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Post by James on Mar 14, 2020 22:10:43 GMT
I seen a few people wear masks, and I had a story about my mom shopping and experiencing toilet paper nearly all gone. Other than that, nothing too extreme from my POV in the outside world.
Personally I feel worried about it but I know to maintain my well-being. After all, it’s easy being an introvert.
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Post by sadsaak on Mar 14, 2020 23:16:17 GMT
I am a bit worried. A mate suggested that the number of UK cases could reach half a million. I bet him £200 that it would not reach three hundred. Currently there are 21 dead which suggests that we might both be wrong but that I will be wrong to the tune of two ton.
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Post by Xcalatë on Mar 15, 2020 10:06:11 GMT
had the cinema practically to myself today. twas awesome. I love when that happens.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 16, 2020 1:18:38 GMT
It's silly panic buying and hoarding.. Thankfully, we always have 70 and 90% isopropyl alcohol, and also wipes. We also keep a good supply of naproxen due to my medical condition. We also have a supply of nitrile gloves due to the nature of my husband's work, as well as a lot of hand sanitizer. My prescriptions were filled just prior to the panic, and they are 90 day supplies.
Schools are closed until further notice. Movie theaters and performing venues are closed until further notice. Synagogues and Catholic Churches closed for worship. Supermarkets have supplied, but cannot keep up stocking shelves due to demand. For some reason, chicken is hard to find, but beef isn't. Soups are selling out. Cat food, too. I am working from home. Keeping to the house unless absolutely necessary. Hospitals have limited visiting patients. Some cities have instituted curfews, closed restaurants to in-venue dining, and will allow only takeout.
And that's the tip of the iceberg.
I am concerned.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Mar 18, 2020 1:40:07 GMT
Personally, I'm against the Corona virus.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Mar 18, 2020 2:57:00 GMT
It is a mess. Even if you only have a 2% chance of dying, you don't just fall asleep and not wake up. You drown to death. If "they" were really so enthused about scaring you, then "they" would definitely be giving graphic descriptions of exactly how it kills you. Because the random posts of "how would you not like to die" always have drowning and burning at the top of the list. Not to get too much into it, but I had an upper respiratory infection out of the blue last year - with no other health problems outside of catching a cold probably from some older relatives who were passing it around. I had an experience during one of those nights where I said to myself exactly "This is how people die from these things" and it wasn't like I was "so sick I felt like dying". Now to stay alive I just mostly needed to stay awake. As long as I didn't doze off I could manage to keep my lungs from completely filling up. Once they get full to the point where you can't get enough air in there to produce a cough, it's panic time. Sorry, delved into "graphic". I only know this because of a one-off thing I picked up during Christmas dinner, and spent my entire holiday break making sure I made it to 2020.
The panic business. I feel like I saw a nice snapshot of the reality of all of these pictures of empty shelves. Shopping at a grocery store on "day 1" of my state's emergency phase... It wasn't terrible. I mean, the items that were wiped out were everyone's favorite. It wasn't all soups and all canned goods. Just the ones they wanted more than the others. Like certain parts of shelves would be completely empty, while other similar foods in the same area would be untouched. Standing in line after about 20 minutes to check out, I kind of eavesdropped on the 20-something girl in front of me, and the photos she was texting. Presumably, she was showing her friends the state of the store. In fact, I recognized exactly which shelves she had taken pictures of. Nice strategic angles to make the empty parts look longer. In fact, completely framing the food to the left, right and above her photo out of the picture. Here pictures were ONLY empty shelving. Ignoring the fact that her empty shelf subject was surrounded by other food with similar shelf life. And that people who work there were restocking things really quickly. The people on the other end of her text messages probably thought the store was wiped out - it was full of food! I wanted to ask her for their numbers, so I could send other pictures showing all of the shelves which weren't wiped out. So I did feel like it was her chance to be awesome in her friends' minds and do her part in expanding the crisis. For all I knew, they freaked out and ran to their local store and bought a bunch of things they didn't need. Irresponsible.
But no more irresponsible than the other lady who was verbally throwing a fit because she was trying to supply a dinner party she was having the next day. A dinner party? The day after they advise you limit spreading a contagious virus? So here I saw this lady going out of her way to convince herself that everything is fine and it is actually a good time to throw a party, where people quite possibly share food! I've got one trying to incite panic buying, and I've got one trying to encourage group feasting. Normalcy is in the middle. Unfortunately middle is way too middle for either side. Same with politics. Either way, I am being nicer to people lately. Just makes me feel better.
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Post by Nora on Mar 18, 2020 14:41:19 GMT
pretty upset now that cinemas closed. my normal routine is to see 3-4 movies each week and now I am forced to face my addiction and its withdrawal effects and it aint pretty.
i only have two addictions and this one was the healthier one and they take it away from me for more than a month it seems. aaargh.
i am happy for the cinema workers though - that is IF they are still getting paid or at least benefits during this time.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 18, 2020 14:43:20 GMT
pretty upset now that cinemas closed. my normal routine is to see 3-4 movies each week and now I am forced to face my addiction and its withdrawal effects and it aint pretty. i only have two addictions and this one was the healthier one and they take it away from me for more than a month it seems. aaargh. i am happy for the cinema workers though - that is IF they are still getting paid or at least benefits during this time. Do you have streaming services? Can you buy on demand from your Cable provider? I'm thinking of playing all my horror DVD's which will give be about four days of horror viewing.
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Post by marianne48 on Mar 18, 2020 14:50:10 GMT
I've had that damn Talking Heads song in my head for days.
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Post by Harmless elf on Mar 18, 2020 15:56:43 GMT
At this point it's ruined my life. Not the virus but all the lockdown stuff. it hasn't just put me out of work but it's I was going to be changing jobs getting a new job and new place and going back to school and all that's gone to hell all because of old people.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 18, 2020 15:59:35 GMT
At this point it's ruined my life. Not the virus but all the lockdown stuff. it hasn't just put me out of work but it's I was going to be changing jobs getting a new job and new place and going back to school and all that's gone to hell all because of old people. The fallacy in your belief is that it affects only old people. Please educate yourself and stop the spread of false information.
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Post by Harmless elf on Mar 18, 2020 16:07:53 GMT
At this point it's ruined my life. Not the virus but all the lockdown stuff. it hasn't just put me out of work but it's I was going to be changing jobs getting a new job and new place and going back to school and all that's gone to hell all because of old people. The fallacy in your belief is that it affects only old people. Please educate yourself and stop the spread of false information. Car crashes kill more young people then this virus ever will but people will still drive. is there a chance you can get the virus and die yes but you could also die a lot more likely in a car crash this is to protect old people
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