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Post by seahawksraawk00 on May 4, 2020 11:01:04 GMT
A nice little gem of a film I only recently discovered and a great horror-adventure-comedy take on the vampire genre. Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 4, 2020 18:04:25 GMT
A nice little gem of a film I only recently discovered and a great horror-adventure-comedy take on the vampire genre. Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in. Very-good film, BETTER than its RIVAL although I enjoyed that film also.
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Post by Marv on May 4, 2020 22:35:31 GMT
I feel like it’s gotten fairly well known lately. When I first heard about it some 15 years ago, it didn’t seem like anyone knew of it. I’m glad cuz it’s a good cult hit. The cast has a lot to do with it.
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Post by Marv on May 4, 2020 22:36:08 GMT
A nice little gem of a film I only recently discovered and a great horror-adventure-comedy take on the vampire genre. Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in. Very-good film, BETTER than its RIVAL although I enjoyed that film also.
I probably enjoy The Lost Boys more. I think it’s a more polished film.
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Post by Captain Spencer on May 5, 2020 1:13:42 GMT
Count me in as a fan of this gritty horror movie. Has a nice contemporary western and noir feel to it.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 5, 2020 3:09:30 GMT
Count me in as a fan of this gritty horror movie. Has a nice contemporary western and noir feel to it. WHICH one do YOU prefer?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 17:58:21 GMT
Hands down better than the lost boys.
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Post by Captain Spencer on May 5, 2020 19:11:54 GMT
Count me in as a fan of this gritty horror movie. Has a nice contemporary western and noir feel to it. WHICH one do YOU prefer? I like the noir feel of it better. Gives it a bleak atmosphere.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 6, 2020 5:39:10 GMT
I like the noir feel of it better. Gives it a bleak atmosphere. Got that...BUT which film do YOU prefer, Near Dark OR The Lost Boys?
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Post by Dazed on May 6, 2020 6:39:08 GMT
A nice little gem of a film I only recently discovered and a great horror-adventure-comedy take on the vampire genre. Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in. It's definitely one of my favourites. Bill was so good wasn't he and add Lance Henrikssen into the mix and it can't lose. Great film.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 6, 2020 11:48:09 GMT
Bill Paxton did this interview with Marc Maron not long before he died. I think it was released a week or so before he died and he seems so full of life. Skip the first 26 minutes if you want to dive straight in for Bill.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 6, 2020 13:57:02 GMT
A nice little gem of a film I only recently discovered and a great horror-adventure-comedy take on the vampire genre. Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in. Near Dark have always been one of my favorite 80s movies, not just within the whole horror genre, but there is something, not sure how to describe it, but the whole dreamy or haunting tone/vibe is what really does it most for me. That, and of course such a great example of going all the way, for far more interesting and "colorful" character actors, instead of just hiring in the popular big "guns" or movie stars at that time, who sadly for me that is, rarely seems to lights up these kind of films, and I guess is one of the reasons why I prefer Near Dark anytime or day, to stuff like The Lost Boys (1987) or Interview with a Vampire (1994), and which both are absolute no bad movies, but the star power and MTV look/feel to them, makes them loose some their "magic" and are good to watch now and then, but films like Near Dark have a far better grip or hold on me, and I can watch it many times a year, without going tired of it. Also, I re-watched Interview with a Vampire not so long ago, and I felt that the best or most interesting thing about beside the atmosphere, was surely how impressive Kirsten Dunst really was, specially set up against so many famous actors. She seemed somehow inspired in both her looks and personality/behaviour to that of a younger version of Diamondback (Jenette Goldstein) but also with a more fierce and unpredictable personality that again felt more in common (the whole old vampire trapped inside the body of a child) with Homer. Anyway, I think I did a thread a few years ago about the movie, and I just do not have the time to write it all once more, so I am being a little lazy and just copies what I wrote back then and re-post it in here: "I sure haven't met any girls like you."When the usually confident and sligthly naive country boy Caleb Colton (Adrian Pasdar) first lays his eyes on the stunning Mae (Jenny Wright), he is immediately entranced by her innocence and beauty, and will do whatever it takes to try and gain her attention, and pretty soon, the two strangers seems to get more than well acquainted. However, things are not always what they seem and it gets complicated when Caleb is suddenly taking part of Mae's little secret. One that will end up affecting both of their lives, as the night sure has its price.Tried to look up if there was already made a thread for this film, but could not find one to my surprise. Anyway, Kathryn Bigelow's 1987 horror movie Near Dark is one of my favorite 1980s titles, not just within the horror genre but overall I think of it as one of the finest films of that era. Stunning in places and might just be among the most atmospheric and "hypnotic" horror releases of the 1980s. This is a very different kind of a movie, or at least compared to other big 80s vampire films. It is not as fast-paced or action filled, instead it slowly builds up and for some, it might take a few views but it is one that I think will reward those who have patience with this kind of movies, and not just sit around and wait for an 90-100 minutes onslaughter, where you have an army of zombies or monsters ready to get blown to kingdom come. This is a beautifully and very well made, (and not just visually but also story and character wise) film and one which contains a great romantic plot involving Caleb and Mae, but also one which comes with a hefty price and it is here we get to meet up with Mae's partners in crime, and then things begin to turn nasty. I am not gonna spoil a lot by writing too much, but what a fantastic gallery of great character actors this film really have, as it is almost like a "best of" of the coolest and most used character actors of the 80s and 90s, all "thrown" into one film, and it worked like magic. Beside the gorgeous Jenny Wright and Adrian Pasdar in the leads, we have Lance Henriksen, Bill Paxton, Janette Goldstein, Tim Thomerson, Troy Evans, Roger Aaron Brown, James LeGros and Theresa Randle, (just to name a few) and of course Joshua Miller as Homer. Of course, when you learn that the german synth-wizards Tangerine Dream are involved, and it is made in the 80s, you pretty much know it is gonna be something special to look forward to. And, well it ended up after my first view to become one of my most overpriced (but best) CD soundtrack purchases ever, but damn, it was absolute worthy every penny, as this haunting, dreamlike and at times adventurous score is among some of the very best they ever did and my only little "complaint" is that the stunning number which is called Mae's Theme was not given a stand alone spot, instead it is featured as a part of Bus Stop/Mae's Theme. Anyway, still it does have that classic, miminalistic, romantic, moody and fragile sound which all of my favorite Tangerine Dream themes often seem to come with. Sadly, Youtube have removed most of the classic scenes from this film, (I could swear they had the bar scene along with a few others a while back) but I guess one have to look elsewhere for those these days. Anyway, I found one of my all time favorite movie scenes, and very likely among the most badass ones, which is the classic bar scene: "Did I do that?"Also, a few years back (or more) a remake was in talks, but thankfully those plans were made to rest as the Twilight films sudden success became the biggest thing in Vampire fashion and it went as far that some "geniuses" even saw the opportunity to milk it even further by re-releasing Near Dark along with an very heavily photoshopped (and terribly so) DVD-Blu-ray artwork/cover, to make it look more "appealing" to the fans of the Twilight series. 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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 6, 2020 14:20:19 GMT
Makes me miss Bill Paxton too though. He steals the scene in any film he's in. Speaking of Bill, have you seen his work with Billy Bob Thornton, in such films as the dark suspense-thriller A Simple Plan (1998) or the more crime-noir themed One False Move (1992)? Boy, those are some real great films, and really took me completely by surprise as they rarely seems to be talked about that much, which surprises me, as they really are something else, and where specially One False Move ended up last summer (after purchasing it on DVD in a flea market for absolutely nothing) as one of my favorite films from the early 90s. I seldom watch the same movie twice the same night, especially those I have never seen before, but I thankfully did so that night. Paxton delivers such a impressive part as the "naive smalltown" Sheriff Dale "Hurricane" Dixon , who really wants to take a shoot at the opportunity to impress some FBI agents, who are on the look out for a small gang of brutal criminals heading towards his direction, and I love the whole cultural "clash" between the big city agents, and the lively Sheriff Dixon, and also the backstory that he has with one of the female criminals, and, well not gonna say much more, but for me this is surely among his finest work, and I am so happy to discover it, never heaving heard about before. Anyway, for those who have not seen it, I do believe the whole thing is uploaded on Youtube, so if one have the time or interest, be sure to give it a watch, cause its a great one. (Sorry my bad, it seems like this Youtube video has some terrible picture quality, so, well maybe other sites have it online)
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 6, 2020 14:33:55 GMT
It's definitely one of my favourites. Bill was so good wasn't he and add Lance Henrikssen into the mix and it can't lose. Great film. Love your avatar by the way, Manhunter (1986), now that is a another great 80s movie, full of suspense, haunting and dreamlike images/scenes, impressive character actors doing one hell of a job, and also the way it slowly takes it time, to build up to such a memorable and climatic ending, but never feeling the pressure to fasten things up or showing too much.
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Post by Captain Spencer on May 6, 2020 19:13:12 GMT
I like the noir feel of it better. Gives it a bleak atmosphere. Got that...BUT which film do YOU prefer, Near Dark OR The Lost Boys?
Sorry, I misunderstood you. I would say I like Near Dark better, just because it's edgier.
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Post by sostie on May 6, 2020 23:37:01 GMT
The plot similarities are many, but always preferred Near Dark over Lost Boys. Better on every level (though in it's favour LB does have Echo & The Bunnymen on the soundtrack. Always saw the Lost Boys themselves as a bunch of laughable looking poodle rockers
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 7, 2020 7:44:30 GMT
Got that...BUT which film do YOU prefer, Near Dark OR The Lost Boys?
Sorry, I misunderstood you. I would say I like Near Dark better, just because it's edgier. Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks!
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Post by Dazed on May 10, 2020 11:55:17 GMT
It's definitely one of my favourites. Bill was so good wasn't he and add Lance Henrikssen into the mix and it can't lose. Great film. Love your avatar by the way, Manhunter (1986), now that is a another great 80s movie, full of suspense, haunting and dreamlike images/scenes, impressive character actors doing one hell of a job, and also the way it slowly takes it time, to build up to such a memorable and climatic ending, but never feeling the pressure to fasten things up or showing too much. Thanks 😊 Manhunter is probably my favourite film. I love everything about it, the actors are all incredible, the cinematography, that they make Dollarhyde a monster that you pity, that moment when Will realised the killer has seen the films. Everything!
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 10, 2020 13:50:22 GMT
Thanks 😊 Manhunter is probably my favourite film. I love everything about it, the actors are all incredible, the cinematography, that they make Dollarhyde a monster that you pity, that moment when Will realised the killer has seen the films. Everything! You're welcome, as it is always a joy to catch up with other fans of this truly special and very well made/acted, groundbreaking little thriller by Michael Mann. I agree completely with all you have written of the films memorable strenghts and especially how Dante Spinotti's and Michael Mann's stylish and elegant combination of using colors, lights, different camera angles and more, in order to create a truly special and very haunting or dreamlike movie, that really is like very few others, in both what you see, but also what you do not see, which I think is maybe even more impressive. Yes, Tom Noonan (a fantastic character actor) does an incredible way of portraying such a "monstrous" figure as Francis, yet in a very complicated and fragile way as you mentioned, and he is not just another creepy looking "Hollywood" stereotypical monster, and as Will later on explains to his best friend and partner (Dennis Farina): "Someone took a kid and manufactured a monster."Some of the most beautiful, emotional and stylish shot scenes in that movie, I think was very much down to Tom and his fantastic way of never "overdoing" his character, and he went for almost a "childlike" personality, trapped inside a grown up man, and it was such a painful sight, specially to see when he almost came close of getting the chance of fulfilling his long time dream, to be "seen" and loved by a woman, and then it all just went down into a very dark place, when the "Red dragon" finally overpowered him, and after that, Francis was, well Francis was, gone, for good!
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 10, 2020 14:05:19 GMT
Also, I couldn't help but notice your signature, which happens to be one of my favorite movies scenes, and not just from Manhunter, but any movie, really. I posted a few days ago, (I think it was in the general discussion section) where people could put up their favorite movie shot, and I felt that very scene deserved to be mentioned, as it is such a powerful, and important one. "It's just you and me now, sport. I'm gonna find you, goddamnit!" - Will Graham (William Peterson) in Manhunter (1986)This scene, might not be the most famous or impressive shot in the film, I mean, it is one those rare ones, where almost every scene has some kind of an incredible, almost art-like striking "painting" imagery or scenery to them, which I guess is mostly to do with the work of Dante Spinotti, but of course Michael Mann and his way of coming up with the right colors, lights and so on, just made for a brilliant team back then. Anyway, the scene or movie shot that I went with, is the first one where Will Graham begins to really feel "connected" to this ruthless and seemingly unstoppable serial killer (Tom Noonan) and he knows time is running away, and that things are getting quite desperate. So, it is a kind of now or never moment, as he is so deep into the whole situation, that there is absolutely no turning back, even (as his wife earlier says to him) "William... you're gonna make yourself sick or get yourself killed.". It also concludes the first half of the film, and where next up it starts to getting closer to the murderer, and the whole thing just keep one building slowly towards their climatic confrontation. Yes, there is much later on, a similar and maybe even more impressive shot, as where Graham and his friend and co-worker (Dennis Farina) find themselv inside a hotel room and it really is the last chance they might ever get to capture or stop the Tooth Fairy, and where Will is placing his hand on the window, and getting all the "clues" together in piece, and where this beautiful music called Graham's Theme by Michel Rubini just makes the whole thing even more impressive and powerful. Still, I do think the more downbeat version of that instrumental, is maybe even better or more effective in this little but very important scene:
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