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Post by enigma72 on Sept 4, 2020 1:21:06 GMT
I have a friend like this! I love her dearly too! I hurt jokers wild when I typed that. I just was thinking of my friend. I didn't mean any harm. My bad! How are things going with your man?? Joker's Wild? Oh dear I'm not hearing from my man, he got busy with work and he thinks I should be with someone who has time for a relationship Sorry things aren't going smoothly. All my best wishes!
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Post by moonchild on Sept 4, 2020 1:40:03 GMT
Joker's Wild? Oh dear I'm not hearing from my man, he got busy with work and he thinks I should be with someone who has time for a relationship Sorry things aren't going smoothly. All my best wishes! Thank you, sweet lady
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Post by poelzig on Sept 4, 2020 1:53:56 GMT
You know? Like, 40,000 people die everyday. I don’t mean to be an ass, but the world goes f**king nuts over the Black Panther dying. I don’t know the man personally. I mean yeah, it’s sad, but the social media outpouring and RIP posts etc... I like what Joker said in “Joker” (2019) people die every day. If it was me lying dead on the streets you’d walk right over me. Even the shootings by the police. Yeah, it’s more about the moral injustice, I get it. But excuse me for feeling no remorse for a guy who sexually assaulted people resisting arrest and reaching for a knife... at least the cops are trying to protect the people. I feel nothing when famous people die. It baffles me that anyone would. Frankly I feel nothing for strangers who die. People clutch their chest and gasp over some kid they never met was shot and it feels fake. Yes it's a tragedy, but somewhere near a million people have been murdered in my lifetime and that's just in the U.S. My aunt was throwing a fake fit about the media not talking about some kid who was killed (dittohead propaganda) and I'm like, 250 people (on average) have been murdered since that kid died and almost none were mentioned in the news. This kid was all over tv networks. Where is your outrage for all the rest? I don't care about Blake, I do care that we have a militarized police force that can murder at will and get away with it. When Princess Di died, I was like so what, but one of my good friend's family had a wake for her. Everyone dressed in black, walking around like their grandfather had died. His mom was crying. ??WTF You seem to be very confused. You said the media wasn't talking about a kid getting murdered then you say the kids murder was all over the news. You feel nothing for strangers being killed but you're OUTRAGED because someone told you to be upset over a militarized police force that can murder at will and get away with it? So if you don't give a shit about the actual deaths then why the f are you clutching your pearls because someone allegedly gets away with it? Are you afraid the militarized police force is going to come after you? Why would they? Most cops are morons too stupid to do anything else so where are the secret spy black op cops coming from that you're so terrified about? Not being facetious I'm curious.
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Post by moonchild on Sept 4, 2020 5:15:53 GMT
I understand your feelings Lol I had been on the old boards a short time and people were so upset over a celebrity death. I didn't understand that. Now I think of it more as a fact. Most don't affect me. I have enough going on in real life. I'll say 'rest in peace '. But my day isn't ruined. Yes, she is an airhead but I love her Okay, here's my reaction to both you Nettie and Enigma. And I'm referencing back to the lady who left work when Bowie died, and Enigma's dismay in general at being distraught over a stranger's death.
I know Enigma is Catholic. So what would be your reaction to the Pope's death? Would you be an "emotional drama diva" to mourn?
Personally I believe Bowie was greater than the Pope. It affected me when he died.
I feel bad for Bowie's family but I wasn't really that affected other than I thought it was sad as I always do
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2020 5:47:06 GMT
I understand your feelings Lol I had been on the old boards a short time and people were so upset over a celebrity death. I didn't understand that. Now I think of it more as a fact. Most don't affect me. I have enough going on in real life. I'll say 'rest in peace '. But my day isn't ruined. Yes, she is an airhead but I love her Okay, here's my reaction to both you Nettie and Enigma. And I'm referencing back to the lady who left work when Bowie died, and Enigma's dismay in general at being distraught over a stranger's death.
I know Enigma is Catholic. So what would be your reaction to the Pope's death? Would you be an "emotional drama diva" to mourn?
Personally I believe Bowie was greater than the Pope. It affected me when he died.
As you already know, Gameboy, I'm Catholic. If or when Pope Francis - or more likely, - Pope Benedict XVI die, I may feel a tinge of sadness for either one of them. I really felt strongly when Pope John Paul II passed away 15 years ago. That said, when Princess Diana was killed in a DUI accident 23 years ago, Mother Teresa died a week later. The mourning for Princess Diana was far greater than that for Mother Teresa. (To be fair, though, Princess Diana's death was a complete shock because a)she was young, & b)she was chronically in the media, from the time of her engagement to Prince Charles all the way up to that fateful night 16 years later. Mother Teresa, while definitely a great Saint, & it was sad to lose someone as great as she, her death was not shocking, as she had died of natural causes & she lived to an old age.)
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 4, 2020 5:49:13 GMT
I don't have a problem with people who get very sad and hurt at deaths of celebrities although I have personally never felt emotional about any celebrity deaths. Emotions differ for different people.
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Post by enigma72 on Sept 4, 2020 15:07:07 GMT
I understand your feelings Lol I had been on the old boards a short time and people were so upset over a celebrity death. I didn't understand that. Now I think of it more as a fact. Most don't affect me. I have enough going on in real life. I'll say 'rest in peace '. But my day isn't ruined. Yes, she is an airhead but I love her Okay, here's my reaction to both you Nettie and Enigma. And I'm referencing back to the lady who left work when Bowie died, and Enigma's dismay in general at being distraught over a stranger's death. I know Enigma is Catholic. So what would be your reaction to the Pope's death? Would you be an "emotional drama diva" to mourn? Personally I believe Bowie was greater than the Pope. It affected me when he died.
I was just messing with you specifically. Lol Sorry I hurt jokers wild. Ps I never missed work when the Pope died.
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2020 17:16:57 GMT
As you already know, Gameboy, I'm Catholic. If or when Pope Francis - or more likely, - Pope Benedict XVI die, I may feel a tinge of sadness for either one of them. I really felt strongly when Pope John Paul II passed away 15 years ago. That said, when Princess Diana was killed in a DUI accident 23 years ago, Mother Teresa died a week later. The mourning for Princess Diana was far greater than that for Mother Teresa. (To be fair, though, Princess Diana's death was a complete shock because a)she was young, & b)she was chronically in the media, from the time of her engagement to Prince Charles all the way up to that fateful night 16 years later. Mother Teresa, while definitely a great Saint, & it was sad to lose someone as great as she, her death was not shocking, as she had died of natural causes & she lived to an old age.) Well it's all a matter of what and whom you feel strongly about. Sure, Princess Di's death was shocking and sad. And I say that as one who believes the British royal family is an anachronism which should be abolished. I think if we are human and not complete bedroom-dwelling sociopaths (like a couple on this thread) we are moved and saddened. But no, I didn't lose any sleep over Diana's death.
Bowie is an iconic figure to me. His music impacted my life, not only emotionally but in terms of the way I viewed art and music. So I understand the girl who left work that way. I was trying to explain to Enigma and Nettie that there are stranger's deaths which may deeply affect us. And I'm sure there are public figures whose death's may sadden them the way I and others felt about Bowie.
So, I guess it can depend entirely upon the famous individual. I was very sad when Diana was killed. Although I do like David Bowie's music, I didn't lose sleep over. As I mentioned earlier in this topic thread, I was shocked over Michael Jackson's death, & yes, I did like some of his music, I didn't mourn him the way that I mourned Princess Diana. I also mourned Pope John Paul's & Mother Teresa's deaths. I mourned Corey Haim's death, but, because I actually knew the guy, shortly before he became famous. And yes, I am well aware that there are people who intensely dislike Mother Teresa. Most of them are anti-theist bigots. For the record, there were people who really liked Adolf Hitler (these people are also known to be bigots too).
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Post by Sarge on Sept 4, 2020 18:06:33 GMT
I feel nothing when famous people die. It baffles me that anyone would. Frankly I feel nothing for strangers who die. People clutch their chest and gasp over some kid they never met was shot and it feels fake. Yes it's a tragedy, but somewhere near a million people have been murdered in my lifetime and that's just in the U.S. My aunt was throwing a fake fit about the media not talking about some kid who was killed (dittohead propaganda) and I'm like, 250 people (on average) have been murdered since that kid died and almost none were mentioned in the news. This kid was all over tv networks. Where is your outrage for all the rest? I don't care about Blake, I do care that we have a militarized police force that can murder at will and get away with it. When Princess Di died, I was like so what, but one of my good friend's family had a wake for her. Everyone dressed in black, walking around like their grandfather had died. His mom was crying. ??WTF You seem to be very confused. You said the media wasn't talking about a kid getting murdered then you say the kids murder was all over the news. You feel nothing for strangers being killed but you're OUTRAGED because someone told you to be upset over a militarized police force that can murder at will and get away with it? So if you don't give a shit about the actual deaths then why the f are you clutching your pearls because someone allegedly gets away with it? Are you afraid the militarized police force is going to come after you? Why would they? Most cops are morons too stupid to do anything else so where are the secret spy black op cops coming from that you're so terrified about? Not being facetious I'm curious. No you're confused, my aunt said the media wasn't talking about the kid's death. She goes on Facebook and sees hundreds of ditto-head memes saying the mainstream media is not talking about this kid's death but if you actually bother to Google the kids name you'll see it got plenty of attention. But really she and other dittoheads want to use the family's tragedy for political purposes, as of some sort of statement against BLM, and that's pretty disgusting. As for the rest of your post, pffft, you only have rights as long as you exercise and protect them. So you may be willing to give up your rights but I'm not.
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Post by sweetpea on Sept 4, 2020 18:20:59 GMT
I feel nothing when famous people die. It baffles me that anyone would. Frankly I feel nothing for strangers who die. People clutch their chest and gasp over some kid they never met was shot and it feels fake. Yes it's a tragedy, but somewhere near a million people have been murdered in my lifetime and that's just in the U.S. My aunt was throwing a fake fit about the media not talking about some kid who was killed (dittohead propaganda) and I'm like, 250 people (on average) have been murdered since that kid died and almost none were mentioned in the news. This kid was all over tv networks. Where is your outrage for all the rest? I don't care about Blake, I do care that we have a militarized police force that can murder at will and get away with it. When Princess Di died, I was like so what, but one of my good friend's family had a wake for her. Everyone dressed in black, walking around like their grandfather had died. His mom was crying. ??WTF You expressed my belief perfectly. That’s exactly how I meant this post. I don't mourn Boseman's death as much as I understand those who do because I lost two brothers to crap cancer-both too young. Then it makes me think of kids who get cancer, they shouldn't have to go through that. It makes me sad. But, yes I go on with my life. But I also hope at some point we can start eliminating some more of these diseases.
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Post by ellynmacg on Sept 4, 2020 18:41:52 GMT
I also graduated in 1975, and I can attest to the truth of this observation...though I wish it weren't true. I wonder, though, how much of the perceived increase in callousness, along with the corresponding decrease in caring, is due to the explosive rise in the social media--a concept and an entity which in 1975 did not yet exist as we know it. People on the Internet, thanks to their seeming anonymity, often feel free to say the most outrageous--sometimes completely untruthful--things, not caring who or how deeply or how many they hurt. I remember in the days of the original IMDb, whenever a star (or even a relatively obscure actor) died, along with those expressing feelings of loss and sadness, there would be one or two posters who would say negative things about the deceased--including horrible things that couldn't possibly have applied to that individual--just to stir up trouble and to hurt other people's feelings. That type of poster to me exemplified trolling of the nastiest kind. So far, I haven't noticed much of that sort of viciousness here on IMDB, and I hope I never do. Of course, having withdrawn from the Politics board has certainly helped that avoidance.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 4, 2020 18:47:35 GMT
So far, I haven't noticed much of that sort of viciousness here on IMDB, It is here but I find that reading the obits from the semi-official obit writers on the various boards and not reading the replies from the known negativists helps.
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Post by ellynmacg on Sept 4, 2020 18:50:16 GMT
The death of a famous person whom I had never met, never had any real expectation to meet, but whom I felt I knew, for better or for worse, that affected me most deeply was that of John Lennon. I was an atypical Beatles fan, having succumbed to my own form of mania in my mid-teens, in 1969, less than a year before they officially broke up, and though my favorite was Paul, I always took an active interest in the other three...all of them felt like friends, even when one or more of them would do something I considered stupid or embarrassing (which would provoke me to wail, "Oh, no, John/Paul/George/Ringo--how could you do that!"). Was this a mature attitude? Of course not—I was probably a good illustration of arrested development. But I loved them. I never bought any tie-in merchandise such as wigs or bubble gum or boots (after all, by the time I got into the whole Beatle "thing," it was almost over), but I always enjoyed reading about their adventures, and I cared about them. I still do. I'm still a sucker for "click-bait" articles about their wives and/or kids. When John was murdered, I cried. For about a week, I would cry, or at least choke up, every time I would hear one of his songs, whether by the Beatles or by him, solo, played on the radio… and they were played a lot for quite a while after his death. I find it astonishing (and depressing) that before the end of this year, John Lennon will have been dead for as many years as he was alive. So no, though I certainly don’t judge people who don’t feel sad when a celebrity dies—they probably have a more adult approach to life than the rest of us, lol—I can also understand the people who do mourn their favorite celebs…especially those who produced art that moved them in some way.
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Post by Nora on Sept 4, 2020 21:20:00 GMT
The death of a famous person whom I had never met, never had any real expectation to meet, but whom I felt I knew, for better or for worse, that affected me most deeply was that of John Lennon. I was an atypical Beatles fan, having succumbed to my own form of mania in my mid-teens, in 1969, less than a year before they officially broke up, and though my favorite was Paul, I always took an active interest in the other three...all of them felt like friends, even when one or more of them would do something I considered stupid or embarrassing (which would provoke me to wail, "Oh, no, John/Paul/George/Ringo--how could you do that!"). Was this a mature attitude? Of course not—I was probably a good illustration of arrested development. But I loved them. I never bought any tie-in merchandise such as wigs or bubble gum or boots (after all, by the time I got into the whole Beatle "thing," it was almost over), but I always enjoyed reading about their adventures, and I cared about them. I still do. I'm still a sucker for "click-bait" articles about their wives and/or kids. When John was murdered, I cried. For about a week, I would cry, or at least choke up, every time I would hear one of his songs, whether by the Beatles or by him, solo, played on the radio… and they were played a lot for quite a while after his death. I find it astonishing (and depressing) that before the end of this year, John Lennon will have been dead for as many years as he was alive. So no, though I certainly don’t judge people who don’t feel sad when a celebrity dies—they probably have a more adult approach to life than the rest of us, lol—I can also understand the people who do mourn their favorite celebs…especially those who produced art that moved them in some way. i was too young to experience John Lennon's death, but I am STILL sad Kurt Cobain didn't get a chance to bring us more of his art, same for Amy Winehouse. Its not the loss of "the person" per se that I find myself being sad over, thats for their families and friends, but its a selfish sadness of not being able to "consume" more of their talents. Plus the general feeling of uneasiness when a young person dies. But I feel that for strangers from the new equaly as for celebrities. young is young. i always think of the parents that survive them and how utterly heartbreaking that must be, since I know from my friends (and my own parents who had said the same and I believe them) that they would choose their own death without hesitation if it meant saving the child. It makes you bow down in front of nature, doesn't it, something so powerful it will override the usually most powerful instinct common to all life forms - to survive. Anyway I digress. Yes, the murder of John Lennon would have also affected me a lot had I been 20 or so years older / had emotions for the Beatles music already at that time.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 4, 2020 21:28:00 GMT
Sarge You seem to be posting about reacting to deaths of people who are known only because they were killed. This thread seems to me to be more intended to be about people who we "know" because they are famous for some reason other than just being dead.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 5, 2020 1:57:56 GMT
Sarge You seem to be posting about reacting to deaths of people who are known only because they were killed. This thread seems to me to be more intended to be about people who we "know" because they are famous for some reason other than just being dead. Sarge You seem to be posting about reacting to deaths of people who are known only because they were killed. This thread seems to me to be more intended to be about people who we "know" because they are famous for some reason other than just being dead. Princess Di was Princess Diana of Wales, mother of Henry and William, famous long before she died. But even if you had been correct, so what?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 5, 2020 2:04:59 GMT
You seem to be posting about reacting to deaths of people who are known only because they were killed. This thread seems to me to be more intended to be about people who we "know" because they are famous for some reason other than just being dead. Princess Di was Princess Diana of Wales, mother of Henry and William, famous long before she died. The majority of what you wrote was about recent on the street killings , not deaths of celebrities or famous people . I think that most people don't react to the killings of thieves and murders with the same feeling as the death of someone they feel they "knew".
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Post by petrolino on Sept 5, 2020 22:45:45 GMT
Interestingly this thread has focused on those who "died too young" ...there can be a feeling of loss when an older person dies as well... someone perhaps of your same age who you "grew up" with or who you as a kid "knew" with them being an adult. It varies from person to person and there is obviously no right way to view the death of "a stranger" ... except (imo) to mock that death ...that is just meanspirited ! Some people also live very lonely lives. They find it difficult to connect with people, are socially awkward, may or may not have close family ... for such people, the work of artists can become an even greater connection to the outside world. When Nelson Mandela was in prison, he and his fellow political prisoners read and reread the same book over and over, because it was the only book they had access to for some time. It came to mean everything to them, a tool for survival, a lifeline, preservation of sanity, the ability to dream ... it was the collected works of William Shakespeare.
People can look down on me and cast aspersions all they want. At the end of the day, somebody like Lady Gaga means a hell of a lot more to me than they ever will. That's why I listened to her music all last weekend and wrote extensively here on 10 books I've read about her life and career.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Sept 6, 2020 4:19:18 GMT
"Well, there just wasn't enough footage. There just wasn't enough unused footage of Chadwick from the first Black Panther around which to build a sequel."
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Post by Sandman on Sept 7, 2020 18:26:29 GMT
I have every season of The Andy Griffith Show and Frasier on DVD and watch them all the time.. So when I heard of these three deaths it saddened me. Martin Crane (John Mahoney) with his beloved dog Eddy on Frasier. Barney Fife (Don Knotts) and Andy Taylor (Andy Griffith)
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