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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 12:54:35 GMT
You hear the debates around the Holiday Season every year...
“Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?”
It made me think. What is a Christmas movie really?
“Well, it’s a movie that take place at Christmas.”
Or
“It’s a movie with Christmas as it’s core theme.”
Or
“It’s a Christian Christmas Theme”
For Example, is “Home Alone” really a Christmas movie? It could have taken place at any time or the year, and it’s the same movie.
Santa is a fake kids story for the holidays. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus. So do all films not based in real Christianity not a Christmas movie?
A Christmas Carol seems to fit all the themes. It’s at Christmas time, it’s about spirits helping change Scrooge, it’s based in Christian themes. “God Bless us, every one.”
Is “Jingle All the Way” a Christmas movie? Really? It’s about a workaholic dad trying to buy his kid a toy.
A Nativity Story is about the birth of Jesus. That’s a Christmas movie. It doesn’t have trees, lights, presents etc...
What do you think constitutes a “Christmas’ movie?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 22, 2020 13:26:27 GMT
Home Alone is a Christmas movie. The main theme song is about Christmas. Kevin asks Santa to bring his family home for Christmas because he misses them. The theme of the film is the appreciation of family, despite your differences, particularly during the holidays. Do a Family Feud survey of which time of year do people most think about 'family' and see where Christmas ranks, as opposed to April or September. No other time of year would it be plausible for the entire street to be on vacation the same week.
A Christmas movie needs to take place at Christmas time and have the plot revolve around Christmas specifically. Die Hard checks the first box, not the second one. Sure it's a Christmas party, but the plot revolves around a heist during an office party that could've been Fred's retirement party in August.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 22, 2020 13:35:14 GMT
I think it's really about public acclamation tbh...
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 22, 2020 13:38:19 GMT
Home Alone is a Christmas movie. The main theme song is about Christmas. Kevin asks Santa to bring his family home for Christmas because he misses them. The theme of the film is the appreciation of family, despite your differences, particularly during the holidays. Do a Family Feud survey of which time of year do people most think about 'family' and see where Christmas ranks, as opposed to April or September. No other time of year would it be plausible for the entire street to be on vacation the same week. A Christmas movie needs to take place at Christmas time and have the plot revolve around Christmas specifically. Die Hard checks the first box, not the second one. Sure it's a Christmas party, but the plot revolves around a heist during an office party that could've been Fred's retirement party in August. Some might argue that Die Hard is about a the struggle of a man trying to reconnect with his wife (family) during Christmas. And Kevin could've been left home alone during a summer vacation and have nothing to do with Christmas.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 22, 2020 14:10:03 GMT
Home Alone is a Christmas movie. The main theme song is about Christmas. Kevin asks Santa to bring his family home for Christmas because he misses them. The theme of the film is the appreciation of family, despite your differences, particularly during the holidays. Do a Family Feud survey of which time of year do people most think about 'family' and see where Christmas ranks, as opposed to April or September. No other time of year would it be plausible for the entire street to be on vacation the same week. A Christmas movie needs to take place at Christmas time and have the plot revolve around Christmas specifically. Die Hard checks the first box, not the second one. Sure it's a Christmas party, but the plot revolves around a heist during an office party that could've been Fred's retirement party in August. Some might argue that Die Hard is about a the struggle of a man trying to reconnect with his wife (family) during Christmas. And Kevin could've been left home alone during a summer vacation and have nothing to do with Christmas. Again, the entire street isn't going to go on vacation the same week of the summer, and the theme of 'family' resonates more with a Christmas story than the middle of the summer. The main theme song to Home Alone, 'Somewhere in my Memory,' is about being with your family at Christmas. Kevin asks Santa to bring his family home. Christmas is discussed heavily throughout the film. It was released mid-November and marketed as a Christmas movie. You'd have to make wholesale changes to not only the script, but the entire concept to say it's no longer a Christmas movie. The movie is conceptually about Christmas. I've never had a strong opinion about Die Hard being a Christmas movie one way or the other. For me it isn't, but I can see why some people would consider it one. Other than McClane initially explaining his reason for being there, and Hans explaining why their heist has to take place at this party (which really doesn't make sense), is Christmas discussed at all? Die Hard came out in July, and there aren't a ton of plot devices that necessitate it being Christmas. To me, it's a story that takes place around Christmas but isn't specifically about Christmas-- like Lethal Weapon. Like I said, I don't really have a strong opinion on this debate.
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Post by Catman on Dec 22, 2020 17:07:03 GMT
And what about so-called Christmas songs? 'Last Christmas' is not a Christmas song but a he-done-her-wrong song.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 22, 2020 17:13:25 GMT
For me, action movies and horror movies can't be true Christmas movies.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 22, 2020 17:16:25 GMT
Home Alone is a Christmas movie. The main theme song is about Christmas. Kevin asks Santa to bring his family home for Christmas because he misses them. The theme of the film is the appreciation of family, despite your differences, particularly during the holidays. Do a Family Feud survey of which time of year do people most think about 'family' and see where Christmas ranks, as opposed to April or September. No other time of year would it be plausible for the entire street to be on vacation the same week. A Christmas movie needs to take place at Christmas time and have the plot revolve around Christmas specifically. Die Hard checks the first box, not the second one. Sure it's a Christmas party, but the plot revolves around a heist during an office party that could've been Fred's retirement party in August. You're under the mistaken impression that people are always good or get up to good at Christmas which is rather (to put it politely) naive. |
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 22, 2020 17:28:33 GMT
For Example, is “Home Alone” really a Christmas movie? It could have taken place at any time or the year, and it’s the same movie. Santa is a fake kids story for the holidays. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus. So do all films not based in real Christianity not a Christmas movie? A Christmas Carol seems to fit all the themes. It’s at Christmas time, it’s about spirits helping change Scrooge, it’s based in Christian themes. “God Bless us, every one.” Is “Jingle All the Way” a Christmas movie? Really? It’s about a workaholic dad trying to buy his kid a toy. A Nativity Story is about the birth of Jesus. That’s a Christmas movie. It doesn’t have trees, lights, presents etc... What do you think constitutes a “Christmas’ movie? Jingle All the Way and Home Alone are definitely Christmas movies. The whole of Home Alone and Jingle All the Way are about Christmas time. They are entirely about family and the atmosphere of the movies reek of Christmas. Jingle All the Way is a joke about the stress of shopping during the holiday season and the whole point of Home Alone is a message about the importance of family and how it is especially lonely being away from family during Christmas. Home Alone has a whole plot point about helping a lonely old man reconnect with his daughter while a choir sings O Holy Night.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 22, 2020 17:32:25 GMT
A movie that is about Christmas is a Christmas movie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 21:09:04 GMT
For Example, is “Home Alone” really a Christmas movie? It could have taken place at any time or the year, and it’s the same movie. Santa is a fake kids story for the holidays. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus. So do all films not based in real Christianity not a Christmas movie? A Christmas Carol seems to fit all the themes. It’s at Christmas time, it’s about spirits helping change Scrooge, it’s based in Christian themes. “God Bless us, every one.” Is “Jingle All the Way” a Christmas movie? Really? It’s about a workaholic dad trying to buy his kid a toy. A Nativity Story is about the birth of Jesus. That’s a Christmas movie. It doesn’t have trees, lights, presents etc... What do you think constitutes a “Christmas’ movie? Jingle All the Way and Home Alone are definitely Christmas movies. The whole of Home Alone and Jingle All the Way are about Christmas time. They are entirely about family and the atmosphere of the movies reek of Christmas. Jingle All the Way is a joke about the stress of shopping during the holiday season and the whole point of Home Alone is a message about the importance of family and how it is especially lonely being away from family during Christmas. Home Alone has a whole plot point about helping a lonely old man reconnect with his daughter while a choir sings O Holy Night. What I’m getting at with this thread is, if you believe it’s a Christmas movie, then it is. I could easily say Home Alone and Jingle all the Way have nothing to do with the Birth of Jesus and therefore aren’t Christmas at all. |
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Post by politicidal on Dec 22, 2020 21:51:46 GMT
Somebody saying ‘ho ho ho’.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 22, 2020 21:59:19 GMT
Is “Jingle All the Way” a Christmas movie? Really? It’s about a workaholic dad trying to buy his kid a toy. It sure as hell is a Christmas movie, or have you not been watching the news at Christmas time? Every year, there is some "number one" wanted toy, that every child wants, and every parent has to travel all over the city to try to find, while trampling over anyone that gets in their way... " Tickle Me Elmo" comes to mind... From the hunt, to the gifts, to the decor, to the Santa Clauses, to the Parade, to one workaholic dad trying to reconnect with his son... And of course, the magic, of strapping on a fantasy jetpack and flying around the city... If you don't consider this to a Christmas movie, than I don't want to know you, or learn about your horrific taste in films. Yeah, you just keep watching those films about killing people, and see how far that take you in life.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 22, 2020 22:01:00 GMT
The definition of a Christmas movie is anything you can twist to exclude Die Hard. Merriam-Webster adds that the reasoning doesn't even need to be consistent with movies you do consider Christmas movies.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 22, 2020 22:03:14 GMT
Jingle All the Way and Home Alone are definitely Christmas movies. The whole of Home Alone and Jingle All the Way are about Christmas time. They are entirely about family and the atmosphere of the movies reek of Christmas. Jingle All the Way is a joke about the stress of shopping during the holiday season and the whole point of Home Alone is a message about the importance of family and how it is especially lonely being away from family during Christmas. Home Alone has a whole plot point about helping a lonely old man reconnect with his daughter while a choir sings O Holy Night. What I’m getting at with this thread is, if you believe it’s a Christmas movie, then it is. I could easily say Home Alone and Jingle all the Way have nothing to do with the Birth of Jesus and therefore aren’t Christmas at all. Neither does Die Hard...
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Post by millar70 on Dec 22, 2020 22:15:57 GMT
I need to see a Christmas tree.
Then it's a Christmas movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 22, 2020 23:28:14 GMT
Jingle All the Way and Home Alone are definitely Christmas movies. The whole of Home Alone and Jingle All the Way are about Christmas time. They are entirely about family and the atmosphere of the movies reek of Christmas. Jingle All the Way is a joke about the stress of shopping during the holiday season and the whole point of Home Alone is a message about the importance of family and how it is especially lonely being away from family during Christmas. Home Alone has a whole plot point about helping a lonely old man reconnect with his daughter while a choir sings O Holy Night. What I’m getting at with this thread is, if you believe it’s a Christmas movie, then it is. I could easily say Home Alone and Jingle all the Way have nothing to do with the Birth of Jesus and therefore aren’t Christmas at all. Christmas itself barely has anything to do with that anymore and only partly did in the first place. Here is a longer and more in depth video.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 22, 2020 23:55:23 GMT
For me, action movies and horror movies can't be true Christmas movies. This ...  and add to those, films like Bad Santa and Scrooged which are, in actuality, satires of Christmas movies.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 22, 2020 23:57:03 GMT
For me, action movies and horror movies can't be true Christmas movies. This ... and add to those, films like Bad Santa and Scrooged which are, in actuality, satires of Christmas movies. I do consider those Christmas movies. The same way that satires of horror movies are still horror movies.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 23, 2020 0:02:29 GMT
This ... and add to those, films like Bad Santa and Scrooged which are, in actuality, satires of Christmas movies. I do consider those Christmas movies. Technically they are .... but they totally lack the "Christmas spirit" ..they are just mean !
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