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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 25, 2021 19:39:35 GMT
Not really. Im not a remake kinda guy.
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Post by James on Aug 25, 2021 19:41:31 GMT
Not really. Im not a remake kinda guy. Technically it's a sequel to the original. Kinda like Halloween '18.
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 25, 2021 19:48:27 GMT
Is Virginia Madsen returning? She has a voice cameo. Wow, she actually recorded new dialogue as Helen?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 25, 2021 19:51:24 GMT
Wow, she actually recorded new dialogue as Helen? LOL I'm suprised her brother isn't in it, he has a bigger resume than most porn stars.
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Post by Lux on Aug 25, 2021 19:57:25 GMT
Wow, she actually recorded new dialogue as Helen? LOL I'm suprised her brother isn't in it, he has a bigger resume than most porn stars. What the fuck? Lol.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 25, 2021 20:34:55 GMT
Wow, she actually recorded new dialogue as Helen? Yeah. The main character listens to a recording of her talking about Candyman at the library.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 25, 2021 20:57:00 GMT
Any of you looking forward to this? I like the 1992 film a lot, so I'm interested in it. I have a feeling it's gonna be really preachy though. Not really. Tony Todd doesn't even seem to be in the movie as Candyman.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 25, 2021 20:57:25 GMT
Not really. Im not a remake kinda guy. Technically it's a sequel to the original. Kinda like Halloween '18. Oh. I didnt even look into the film.
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Post by basmaticathury on Aug 26, 2021 18:01:57 GMT
Looks like there was racial controversy over the original Candyman upon release in October 1992. Of course, in a non-social media world, much of it went under the radar. "Black Slasher 'Candyman' Draws Fire Over 'Racist' Depictions... www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-10-29-9204080203-story.htmlIt's a very interesting read with quotes from black directors like Carl Franklin (House of Cards, One False Move, Devil in a Blue Dress) opining about "Candyman's" racial context.
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Post by angel on Aug 27, 2021 12:04:31 GMT
Looks like there was racial controversy over the original Candyman upon release in October 1992. Of course, in a non-social media world, much of it went under the radar. "Black Slasher 'Candyman' Draws Fire Over 'Racist' Depictions... www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-10-29-9204080203-story.htmlIt's a very interesting read with quotes from black directors like Carl Franklin (House of Cards, One False Move, Devil in a Blue Dress) opining about "Candyman's" racial context. Candyman definitely plays with racial tropes but I always thought in an intriguing and interesting way. All the so called "worries" about the film in its depiction of black stereotypes were definitely up there in the film, (white middle class fears of the black bogeyman, ghettoization, black on black crime, black men/white women etc) but for me, this elevated Candyman from the run-of-the-mill, two dimensional slasher into much more thought provoking fare. And reading the article, I had to laugh at Virginia Madsen's concern about whether Spike Lee would like Candyman or not, which on the issue of race and Hollywood, probably says it all about the industry then (and probably now).
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Post by jonesjxd on Aug 28, 2021 11:13:34 GMT
I think the original is pretty close to being a masterpiece, I think a lot of people get bored by it because they're expecting it to be more along the lines of Nightmare On Elm Street, when it reality it's more along the lines of The Ring. I also think Farewell To The Flesh is pretty good but haven't seen Day of the Dead. I'm excited to see the remake/reboot/spiritual sequel/whatever but I don't quite get it's take from the trailer. I think the cool thing about Candyman is that the movie (I haven't read the short story) spells out who Candyman is and what he does, but is vague about what he is and how he works. A really ambitious filmmaker could take the Candyman mythos and expand it into something more along the lines of Stephen King's IT, making him more into a Lovecraftian cosmic force than simply a vengeful ghost. The reboot certainly seems to be just making him a vengeful ghost.
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 28, 2021 15:53:36 GMT
I think the original is pretty close to being a masterpiece, I think a lot of people get bored by it because they're expecting it to be more along the lines of Nightmare On Elm Street, when it reality it's more along the lines of The Ring. I also think Farewell To The Flesh is pretty good but haven't seen Day of the Dead. I'm excited to see the remake/reboot/spiritual sequel/whatever but I don't quite get it's take from the trailer. I think the cool thing about Candyman is that the movie (I haven't read the short story) spells out who Candyman is and what he does, but is vague about what he is and how he works. A really ambitious filmmaker could take the Candyman mythos and expand it into something more along the lines of Stephen King's IT, making him more into a Lovecraftian cosmic force than simply a vengeful ghost. The reboot certainly seems to be just making him a vengeful ghost. I remember seeing the original Candyman for the first time and actually being pretty impressed by how artistic and sophisticated it was for something that was considered a slasher movie. Haven't seen Part 2 or 3.
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2021 18:21:17 GMT
Just saw it...super disappointed. I left a longer post on the horror board but overall this whole film just felt like a cheap knockoff of the original and brought nothing really interesting to the table for me. Unfortunately because it's highlighting racism and police it will probably be loved for that fact alone when the original highlighted some of the same thing and was leagues better 30 years ago imo.
Im honestly disappointed.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 28, 2021 18:41:26 GMT
A really ambitious filmmaker could take the Candyman mythos and expand it into something more along the lines of Stephen King's IT, making him more into a Lovecraftian cosmic force than simply a vengeful ghost. The reboot certainly seems to be just making him a vengeful ghost. What's funny is that the new one does pretty much exactly what you wished for... We find out there have been several different versions of Candyman, with Tony Todd's being the first and the new guy the latest, making Candyman itself some kind of entity to be inhabited by various black men who have been wronged by society. ...yet my biggest complaint is that I just wanted more Tony Todd.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 28, 2021 20:47:40 GMT
Complaining about a movie like Candyman having themes regarding gentrification and racial commentary, is like complaining about The Sopranos commentating on the downfall of basic Italian American culture, it further exists, it's happening, and not sure why it shouldn't be commentated about at all. I mean They Live is a commentary on Reganism would that whole movie have somehow been more meaningful without a lynchpin?.
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 28, 2021 21:03:30 GMT
Complaining about a movie like Candyman having themes regarding gentrification and racial commentary, is like complaining about The Sopranos commentating on the downfall of basic Italian American culture, it further exists, it's happening, and not sure why it shouldn't be commentated about at all. I mean They Live is a commentary on Reganism would that whole movie have somehow been more meaningful without a lynchpin?. Hey I'm not complaining, there's no reason why it can't be topical. I just meant I hope it doesn't overdo the preachier aspects and wind up becoming too heavy-handed.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 28, 2021 21:19:33 GMT
Complaining about a movie like Candyman having themes regarding gentrification and racial commentary, is like complaining about The Sopranos commentating on the downfall of basic Italian American culture, it further exists, it's happening, and not sure why it shouldn't be commentated about at all. I mean They Live is a commentary on Reganism would that whole movie have somehow been more meaningful without a lynchpin?. Hey I'm not complaining, there's no reason why it can't be topical. I just meant I hope it doesn't overdo the preachier aspects and wind up becoming too heavy-handed. I wasn't really directing it at you per se, but basically I've noticed some people( my parents included) somehow don't get why certain ideas are included in work, and it can be annoying, because it feels like ignoring a problem because someone's too worried about being entertained.
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 28, 2021 21:28:33 GMT
Hey I'm not complaining, there's no reason why it can't be topical. I just meant I hope it doesn't overdo the preachier aspects and wind up becoming too heavy-handed. I wasn't really directing it at you per se, but basically I've noticed some people( my parents included) somehow don't get why certain ideas are included in work, and it can be annoying, because it feels like ignoring a problem because someone's too worried about being entertained. Yeah, I completely agree.
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2021 21:35:23 GMT
Hey I'm not complaining, there's no reason why it can't be topical. I just meant I hope it doesn't overdo the preachier aspects and wind up becoming too heavy-handed. I wasn't really directing it at you per se, but basically I've noticed some people( my parents included) somehow don't get why certain ideas are included in work, and it can be annoying, because it feels like ignoring a problem because someone's too worried about being entertained. To be fair this isn’t a debate, it’s a movie. It is literally meant to entertain.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 28, 2021 21:43:46 GMT
I wasn't really directing it at you per se, but basically I've noticed some people( my parents included) somehow don't get why certain ideas are included in work, and it can be annoying, because it feels like ignoring a problem because someone's too worried about being entertained. To be fair this isn’t a debate, it’s a movie. It is literally meant to entertain. movies with complex themes and messages entertain all the time as well, I mean since the dawn of all cinema.
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