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Post by CookiesNCream on Jan 1, 2022 2:12:48 GMT
It's funny because Boomers used to be called some of the same things they're calling Millennials now by older generations. A lot of them also skewed liberal in opinions/actions during events like the Vietnam War, hippie culture, the civil rights movement, and other 60s counterculture movement.
Some older gens also have the odd habit of confusing Millennials with Gen Zs/"Zoomers" for their ephebiphobic rant and scapegoating. My generation gets blame or stereotyped for some of the childish things that actually apply to the generation after us.
For clarification: Millennials are adults in their mid-20s to early-40s as of 2022. Most Gen Zs/Zoomers would still be in their adolescence as of 2022.
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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Jan 1, 2022 4:36:33 GMT
Things like that have no meaning to me. I work 45 hours a week at a physically and mentally demanding job but I never think about it. I just do. You sound like a son of the great proletariat. Workers of the world unite! Marx was a angry nerd.
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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Jan 1, 2022 5:50:52 GMT
I like living under capitalism because I'm selfish and materialistic. But I really think Marx had the best plan on how to manage the world. What's the difference between Communism and Marxism? Communism is Socialism plus the dictatorship of the proletariat and Marxism is the actual revolution itself?
Titles like that drown out compared to what people really do. Exploitation is unavoidable. But with Capitalism, it has a way of hemming itself out.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 1, 2022 11:17:44 GMT
You sound like a son of the great proletariat. Workers of the world unite! Marx was a angry nerd. Marx was buried in a privately own cemetery and nowadays workers have to pay to stand next to his impressively large gravestone.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 1, 2022 12:14:23 GMT
I Some older gens also have the odd habit of confusing Millennials with Gen Zs/"Zoomers" for their ephebiphobic rant and scapegoating. My generation gets blame or stereotyped for some of the childish things that actually apply to the generation after us. For clarification: Millennials are adults in their mid-20s to early-40s as of 2022. Most Gen Zs/Zoomers would still be in their adolescence as of 2022. I'm guessing the confusion comes from the name. People probably assume a Millennial is someone born circa the turn of the millennium, as opposed to someone who "came of age" then. The fact they were initially called Gen Y doesn't help either.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 1, 2022 12:34:12 GMT
I Some older gens also have the odd habit of confusing Millennials with Gen Zs/"Zoomers" for their ephebiphobic rant and scapegoating. My generation gets blame or stereotyped for some of the childish things that actually apply to the generation after us. For clarification: Millennials are adults in their mid-20s to early-40s as of 2022. Most Gen Zs/Zoomers would still be in their adolescence as of 2022. I'm guessing the confusion comes from the name. People probably assume a Millennial is someone born circa the turn of the millennium, as opposed to someone who "came of age" then. The fact they were initially called Gen Y doesn't help either. I know baby boomers are generally perceived as people born between 1946 and 1964 and I always thought this rule applied to other generations. I wonder if people had time for this nonsense before the 20th century.
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Post by mystery on Jan 1, 2022 12:56:14 GMT
I usually try not to stereotype people as far as character issues, but I suppose I do think of Boomers as being usually technologically clueless, and Millennials as being technophiles. I'm in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, and I don't really feel like I belong to either group. The person who had the biggest impact on my life when I was growing up was my Greatest Generation grandmother, who would be around 106 now if she was still alive.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 1, 2022 13:42:57 GMT
I'm guessing the confusion comes from the name. People probably assume a Millennial is someone born circa the turn of the millennium, as opposed to someone who "came of age" then. The fact they were initially called Gen Y doesn't help either. I know baby boomers are generally perceived as people born between 1946 and 1964 and I always thought this rule applied to other generations. I wonder if people had time for this nonsense before the 20th century. That's my understanding of the term also. According to Wikipedia: The Lost Generation (born approx 1883-1900) The Greatest Generation (born approx 1901-1927) The Silent Generation/Lucky Few (born approx 1928-1945) Baby Boomers (born approx 1946-1964) Generation X (born approx 1965-1979) Generation Y/Millennials (born approx 1980-1996) Generation Z/Zoomers (born approx 1997-2012) Generation Alpha (assuming this is a placeholder) (born approx 2013- )
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 1, 2022 14:44:23 GMT
I usually try not to stereotype people as far as character issues, but I suppose I do think of Boomers as being usually technologically clueless, and Millennials as being technophiles. I'm in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, and I don't really feel like I belong to either group. The person who had the biggest impact on my life when I was growing up was my Greatest Generation grandmother, who would be around 106 now if she was still alive. I'm a boomer who is currently on a train with two mobile phones, an iPod Touch and an Amazon tablet. The last two are stuffed in my bag along with a portable charger.
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Post by mystery on Jan 1, 2022 15:29:42 GMT
I usually try not to stereotype people as far as character issues, but I suppose I do think of Boomers as being usually technologically clueless, and Millennials as being technophiles. I'm in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, and I don't really feel like I belong to either group. The person who had the biggest impact on my life when I was growing up was my Greatest Generation grandmother, who would be around 106 now if she was still alive. I'm a boomer who is currently on a train with two mobile phones, an iPod Touch and an Amazon tablet. The last two are stuffed in my bag along with a portable charger. Well, I did say, "usually". My Boomer parents know only the bare basics of how to use a computer, but if they run into any problems, they are completely lost. I'm not particularly fond of technology, either, but I can fix a computer. My siblings are undeniably Millennials, and they are far more interested in the gizmos than I am. I'm actually thinking about becoming a homesteader and living an ultra simple, low tech life. I enjoy exploring all different walks of life, and that would harken back to my pioneer ancestors, at least a bit. I think that sounds more interesting than drowning in tech. I think I was born at least a century too late. Oh well.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 1, 2022 16:42:41 GMT
I'm a boomer who is currently on a train with two mobile phones, an iPod Touch and an Amazon tablet. The last two are stuffed in my bag along with a portable charger. Well, I did say, "usually". My Boomer parents know only the bare basics of how to use a computer, but if they run into any problems, they are completely lost. I'm not particularly fond of technology, either, but I can fix a computer. My siblings are undeniably Millennials, and they are far more interested in the gizmos than I am. I'm actually thinking about becoming a homesteader and living an ultra simple, low tech life. I enjoy exploring all different walks of life, and that would harken back to my pioneer ancestors, at least a bit. I think that sounds more interesting than drowning in tech. I think I was born at least a century too late. Oh well. I still prefer drawing with pen and paper over using modern technology and remember the days when cut and paste involved using a scalpel blade and a tin of glue. But in the end I still use my phone and other gadgets to share the work.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 2, 2022 0:08:55 GMT
Snotty punk fucks and flowery tripping hippies were the same thing 10 years apart: dumb youth falling for simplistic rebellion against growing up. I suppose each generation has its share of garbage calling the previous one names. Hey, I just gave my insight into the way we felt at the time.
In retrospect the hippies did some good and they did some bad. But if you weren't alive back then, I accurately described how we viewed it back then. And punks were a creation of the hippies. They were a reverse reaction to it.
It's more about understanding history than a war between generations.
I feel it's perhaps worth noting that psychedelia was a huge influence on punk and some punks had already been in 60s bands. A number of them covered '60s songs live and musicians of all types hung out together in New York.
The only punks I ever met who hated hippies were some of the later, right-wing boot boys who liked basic angry music and they hated just about everyone.
Debbie Harry (while a member of Wind In The Willows)
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jan 2, 2022 0:15:54 GMT
Marx was buried in a privately own cemetery and nowadays workers have to pay to stand next to his impressively large gravestone.
was your comment about paying serious ? it's difficult to tell sometimes. When I was there, it was a free cemetery and not all that well kept.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 2, 2022 0:26:14 GMT
Marx was buried in a privately own cemetery and nowadays workers have to pay to stand next to his impressively large gravestone.
was your comment about paying serious ? it's difficult to tell sometimes. When I was there, it was a free cemetery and not all that well kept. It was free when I went there in the 1980s but nowadays you have to pay £4:50. highgatecemetery.org/visit/cemetery/east#featurephoto270
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jan 2, 2022 0:28:51 GMT
Stammerhead wow ... good thing I saw it when I did. I looked for it because I had run out of touristy things to see and do.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 2, 2022 0:49:48 GMT
The irony is that part of the reason millennials are they way they are is because of how they were raised by their boomer parents. They were coddled. I think being raised with all this technology and distractions is part of what caused it too. Generation Z is even worse as far as I can tell. Isn't that always the case though? Every generation thinks the new generation is worse. I think part of it too is that Gen X and later are less trusting of the power structures than boomers. I am a millennial and I partly align with some of the stereotypes. There are many studies about this stuff. I read one that suggested that millennials are more nihilistic and thus more anxious and depressed than the generations before them. medium.com/the-quasi-luddite/is-nihilism-the-latest-trend-among-millennials-18c8ff1f45b1#:~:text=A%20Modern%2DDay%20Form%20of%20Nihilism&text=It%20perhaps%20is%20a%20product,of%20this%20modern%2Dday%20nihilism. I have also seen millennials being referred to as the generation of existential anxiety. Existential anxiety can present itself as being preoccupied with the afterlife or being upset or nervous about your place and plans in life. This anxiety differs from everyday stress in the sense that everything can make you uncomfortable and anxious, including your very existence. Psychologists from Sigmund Freud forward have generally agreed: our core attitudes about life are largely locked in by age five or so. Changing those attitudes requires intense effort.
I am not sure how supported by study or evidence this is, but it seems that millennials and Gen Z have more mental disorders than the generations before them. This is very difficult to assess though, because many of these disorders weren't understood or diagnosed prior to 1980. There are many good things about this generation though. They are more accepting than generations prior and are more open with their emotions.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Jan 2, 2022 1:18:45 GMT
I'm in the gap between Gen X and Millennials, and I don't really feel like I belong to either group. So would that make you a Xennial? I heard that with generational “cuspers” like Xennials or Generation Jones, they would either enjoy the best of both worlds or feel out of place of either.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 2, 2022 1:54:23 GMT
Hey, I just gave my insight into the way we felt at the time.
In retrospect the hippies did some good and they did some bad. But if you weren't alive back then, I accurately described how we viewed it back then. And punks were a creation of the hippies. They were a reverse reaction to it.
It's more about understanding history than a war between generations. The only punks I ever met who hated hippies were some of the later, right-wing boot boys who liked basic angry music and they hated just about everyone. In the early days of Punk in the UK they’d often be attacked by Teddy Boys.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 2, 2022 2:05:29 GMT
The only punks I ever met who hated hippies were some of the later, right-wing boot boys who liked basic angry music and they hated just about everyone. In the early days of Punk in the UK they’d often be attacked by Teddy Boys.
I guess they would have really lost it if 'Teddy Boy' had come on the radio.
John Lennon (with Yoko Ono)
'Teddy Boy' - Paul McCartney
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 2, 2022 2:12:39 GMT
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