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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 3, 2023 11:55:35 GMT
Well expect for the one i belive in of course.
The mindset of the vast majority of religious people.
There is no proof that any one religion is any more true than other religion, when the religion you belong to are in the vast majority of cases based on where in the world you are born, and what culture you grew up in. And of course the most important reason why a person is the religion he or she is, its because its the religion of the family he or she grew up in.
This is a fact religions people will deny.
And i wrote majority not all
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Post by Rodney Farber on Oct 3, 2023 12:53:34 GMT
Well expect for the one i belive in of course. Well, except for the one in which I believe, of course. |
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 3, 2023 13:56:23 GMT
Depends on outlook I guess. Rather than seeing all religions but one's own as false, you could see them as less successful attempts at grasping a universal truth.
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Post by clusium on Oct 3, 2023 15:11:25 GMT
Well, except for the one i believe in of course. The mindset of the vast majority of religious people. There is no proof that any one religion is any more true than other religion, when the religion you belong to are in the vast majority of cases based on where in the world you are born, and what culture you grew up in. And of course the most important reason why a person is the religion he or she is, its because its the religion of the family he or she grew up in. This is a fact religions people will deny.
And i wrote majority not allAs you all very well know, I am a devout Catholic Christian. I was raised in the faith, & plan to die as such. However, I know that Christianity is not the one true faith. My Japanese neighbours' Shinto faith, from down the street is. Did you catch my sarcasm, Feologild Oakes? Why would I remain within the Christian faith if I believed that another religion contained the fullness of Truth? FYI, that is why I studied world religions for years to determine what I believe, & why I choose to remain believing what I believe. The world religions cannot all be equally right. Why, you ask? Because the theologies of all the religions in the world vary from one religion to another. Ie: One religion teaches that there Is Only One God, Who Alone, is worthy of all worship, while another religion will teach that there are millions of gods & goddesses, all of whom are worthy of our worship (never mind the fact that there are atheists that do not even believe in any deities, at all). And that alone, is just one example of why all religions cannot be equally true. However, does that mean that all other religions are completely wrong? No. As The Lost One already noted, |
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Post by Rodney Farber on Oct 3, 2023 15:28:54 GMT
Depends on outlook I guess. Rather than seeing all religions but one's own as false, you could see them as less successful attempts at grasping a universal truth. I think that is an overly generous interpretation. JW's believe only they know, "The truth". A few religions believe in shunning those that leave. (even more so for cults). Have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition? What about Islamic Jihad? Lookup Thomas Aikenhead. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 3, 2023 15:41:16 GMT
Depends on outlook I guess. Rather than seeing all religions but one's own as false, you could see them as less successful attempts at grasping a universal truth. I think that is an overly generous interpretation. JW's believe only they know, "The truth". A few religions believe in shunning those that leave. (even more so for cults). Have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition? What about Islamic Jihad? Lookup Thomas Aikenhead. The same thing can be pointed out about militant atheists in regards with Communist regimes. |
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 3, 2023 17:40:49 GMT
Depends on outlook I guess. Rather than seeing all religions but one's own as false, you could see them as less successful attempts at grasping a universal truth. I think that is an overly generous interpretation. JW's believe only they know, "The truth". A few religions believe in shunning those that leave. (even more so for cults). Have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition? What about Islamic Jihad? Lookup Thomas Aikenhead. Oh I'm not actually arguing that's how all or even most religious folks view other religions. Only that they could do so if they wished. |
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Post by looking4klingons on Oct 6, 2023 5:00:49 GMT
Well expect for the one i belive in of course. Well, except for the one in which I believe, of course. That’s not the norm with Jehovah’s Witnesses. The key to finding a religion that represents truth, according to Jesus, is not to look at what is being taught …. there’s simply too much to consider, and arguments for & against. Rather, it’s how its members act, and taught how to act. (Matthew 7:21-23) And specifically, how they show their love (John 13:34-35), despite pressure from the world to conform. - John 15:18-25; James 4:4. Hard to do, but blessings come from Jesus’ Father, Jehovah God. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 6, 2023 12:14:24 GMT
Well, except for the one in which I believe, of course. That’s not the norm with Jehovah’s Witnesses. The key to finding a religion that represents truth, according to Jesus, is not to look at what is being taught …. there’s simply too much to consider, and arguments for & against. Rather, it’s how its members act, and taught how to act. (Matthew 7:21-23) And specifically, how they show their love (John 13:34-35), despite pressure from the world to conform. - John 15:18-25; James 4:4. Hard to do, but blessings come from Jesus’ Father, Jehovah God. If JWs do not believe that their religion contains the fullness of truth, then why do they go door to door, proselytizing their faith?  |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Oct 9, 2023 5:40:03 GMT
Well expect for the one i belive in of course. The mindset of the vast majority of religious people. There is no proof that any one religion is any more true than other religion, when the religion you belong to are in the vast majority of cases based on where in the world you are born, and what culture you grew up in. And of course the most important reason why a person is the religion he or she is, its because its the religion of the family he or she grew up in. This is a fact religions people will deny.
And i wrote majority not allI don't think this is true for polytheistic religions. Those which accept the existence of multiple deities likely wouldn't have much difficulty conceding the existence of other deities whom alien peoples worship. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Oct 9, 2023 19:52:45 GMT
Well, except for the one in which I believe, of course. Hard to do, but blessings come from Jesus’ Father, Jehovah God. This may be true f or you, but is hard to prove objectively. |
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 11, 2023 19:05:40 GMT
Well, except for the one i believe in of course. The mindset of the vast majority of religious people. There is no proof that any one religion is any more true than other religion, when the religion you belong to are in the vast majority of cases based on where in the world you are born, and what culture you grew up in. And of course the most important reason why a person is the religion he or she is, its because its the religion of the family he or she grew up in. This is a fact religions people will deny.
And i wrote majority not allAs you all very well know, I am a devout Catholic Christian. I was raised in the faith, & plan to die as such. However, I know that Christianity is not the one true faith. My Japanese neighbours' Shinto faith, from down the street is. Did you catch my sarcasm, Feologild Oakes? Why would I remain within the Christian faith if I believed that another religion contained the fullness of Truth? FYI, that is why I studied world religions for years to determine what I believe, & why I choose to remain believing what I believe. The world religions cannot all be equally right. Why, you ask? Because the theologies of all the religions in the world vary from one religion to another. Ie: One religion teaches that there Is Only One God, Who Alone, is worthy of all worship, while another religion will teach that there are millions of gods & goddesses, all of whom are worthy of our worship (never mind the fact that there are atheists that do not even believe in any deities, at all). And that alone, is just one example of why all religions cannot be equally true. However, does that mean that all other religions are completely wrong? No. As The Lost One already noted, You expect anyone other than people who share your faith to actually believe that you’ve studied all religions? Clearly you did not as you got one of the most basic facts about religion wrong. “One religion teaches that there is only one God? Bullshit! Many religions have taught that, including some that predate yours, and others that came later. You are clearly very ignorant of world religion and the fact that by coincidence you just happened to land right back in the one you were born in speaks to the absurdity of your claim. |
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 11, 2023 19:07:49 GMT
That’s not the norm with Jehovah’s Witnesses. The key to finding a religion that represents truth, according to Jesus, is not to look at what is being taught …. there’s simply too much to consider, and arguments for & against. Rather, it’s how its members act, and taught how to act. (Matthew 7:21-23) And specifically, how they show their love (John 13:34-35), despite pressure from the world to conform. - John 15:18-25; James 4:4. Hard to do, but blessings come from Jesus’ Father, Jehovah God. If JWs do not believe that their religion contains the fullness of truth, then why do they go door to door, proselytizing their faith? Because they are a cult that needs to expand membership to grow power. The elders decided that JWs should proselytize and they essentially control your life and relationships, so you don’t really have a choice as a JW. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 11, 2023 21:14:40 GMT
As you all very well know, I am a devout Catholic Christian. I was raised in the faith, & plan to die as such. However, I know that Christianity is not the one true faith. My Japanese neighbours' Shinto faith, from down the street is. Did you catch my sarcasm, Feologild Oakes ? Why would I remain within the Christian faith if I believed that another religion contained the fullness of Truth? FYI, that is why I studied world religions for years to determine what I believe, & why I choose to remain believing what I believe. The world religions cannot all be equally right. Why, you ask? Because the theologies of all the religions in the world vary from one religion to another. Ie: One religion teaches that there Is Only One God, Who Alone, is worthy of all worship, while another religion will teach that there are millions of gods & goddesses, all of whom are worthy of our worship (never mind the fact that there are atheists that do not even believe in any deities, at all). And that alone, is just one example of why all religions cannot be equally true. However, does that mean that all other religions are completely wrong? No. As The Lost One already noted, You expect anyone other than people who share your faith to actually believe that you’ve studied all religions? Clearly you did not as you got one of the most basic facts about religion wrong. “One religion teaches that there is only one God? Bullshit! Many religions have taught that, including some that predate yours, and others that came later. You are clearly very ignorant of world religion and the fact that by coincidence you just happened to land right back in the one you were born in speaks to the absurdity of your claim.  Ever heard of talking general, captainbryce? That was what I was DOING!!!! Of course there are numerous monotheistic religions out there, just as there are numerous polytheistic, pantheistic, etc. The point I was making was, all the theologies of different religions vary from one another. Judaism & Christianity are both monotheistic. The main difference between the 2 is that Christianity teaches that the Messiah Has Come, while Judaism believe that the Messiah has not yet come. The main difference between Hinduism & Buddhism is, Hinduism believes in a Supreme Creator (though he receives very little worship in the religion), while Buddhism does not (though the afore-mentioned creator deity actually plays a more important role in Buddhism, than he does in Hinduism, despite Buddhism not believing in him as a creator). |
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 12, 2023 10:04:46 GMT
The main difference between Hinduism & Buddhism is, Hinduism believes in a Supreme Creator (though he receives very little worship in the religion), while Buddhism does not (though the afore-mentioned creator deity actually plays a more important role in Buddhism, than he does in Hinduism, despite Buddhism not believing in him as a creator). I would say the main difference between them is not as regards gods and creators but that Buddhism denies the existence of the self while Hinduism argues that the self is merely an aspect of a greater unity. |
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 12, 2023 10:09:39 GMT
Clearly you did not as you got one of the most basic facts about religion wrong. “One religion teaches that there is only one God? Bullshit! Many religions have taught that, including some that predate yours, and others that came later. You are clearly very ignorant of world religion and the fact that by coincidence you just happened to land right back in the one you were born in speaks to the absurdity of your claim. I don't think she said that to be fair - she didn't say 'only one religion is monotheist', she gave an example where one is while another is not to say they can't both be right. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 12, 2023 14:48:45 GMT
Clearly you did not as you got one of the most basic facts about religion wrong. “One religion teaches that there is only one God? Bullshit! Many religions have taught that, including some that predate yours, and others that came later. You are clearly very ignorant of world religion and the fact that by coincidence you just happened to land right back in the one you were born in speaks to the absurdity of your claim. I don't think she said that to be fair - she didn't say 'only one religion is monotheist', she gave an example where one is while another is not to say they can't both be right. Correct. Glad to see at least one person understood the point I was making. |
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 16, 2023 5:15:44 GMT
You expect anyone other than people who share your faith to actually believe that you’ve studied all religions? Clearly you did not as you got one of the most basic facts about religion wrong. “One religion teaches that there is only one God? Bullshit! Many religions have taught that, including some that predate yours, and others that came later. You are clearly very ignorant of world religion and the fact that by coincidence you just happened to land right back in the one you were born in speaks to the absurdity of your claim. Ever heard of talking general, captainbryce ? That was what I was DOING!!!! Of course there are numerous monotheistic religions out there, just as there are numerous polytheistic, pantheistic, etc. The point I was making was, all the theologies of different religions vary from one another. Judaism & Christianity are both monotheistic. The main difference between the 2 is that Christianity teaches that the Messiah Has Come, while Judaism believe that the Messiah has not yet come. The main difference between Hinduism & Buddhism is, Hinduism believes in a Supreme Creator (though he receives very little worship in the religion), while Buddhism does not (though the afore-mentioned creator deity actually plays a more important role in Buddhism, than he does in Hinduism, despite Buddhism not believing in him as a creator). Okay so you admit that many religions are monotheistic and many others are polytheistic. Cool! That doesn’t explain how you were lucky enough to be born into the “correct” religion! How’d you manage that? And why do you think that because they can’t all be correct, therefore one must be correct? That’s not logical! |
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Post by clusium on Oct 16, 2023 12:36:16 GMT
Ever heard of talking general, captainbryce ? That was what I was DOING!!!! Of course there are numerous monotheistic religions out there, just as there are numerous polytheistic, pantheistic, etc. The point I was making was, all the theologies of different religions vary from one another. Judaism & Christianity are both monotheistic. The main difference between the 2 is that Christianity teaches that the Messiah Has Come, while Judaism believe that the Messiah has not yet come. The main difference between Hinduism & Buddhism is, Hinduism believes in a Supreme Creator (though he receives very little worship in the religion), while Buddhism does not (though the afore-mentioned creator deity actually plays a more important role in Buddhism, than he does in Hinduism, despite Buddhism not believing in him as a creator). Okay so you admit that many religions are monotheistic and many others are polytheistic. Cool! That doesn’t explain how you were lucky enough to be born into the “correct” religion! How’d you manage that? And why do you think that because they can’t all be correct, therefore one must be correct? That’s not logical! Of course I admit it. I never even denied it. You were just too dense to notice that I was speaking using examples.  As for how I was so lucky to be raised in the right religion:  Yeah, I don't how I got to be so lucky too. Guess I was just born under a lucky star. |
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 17, 2023 9:40:28 GMT
Yeah, I don't how I got to be so lucky too. Guess I was just born under a lucky star. Is that seriously your answer? 😐 Because if it is, then I can just rest my case here about why your thinking is irrational. |
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Yeah, I don't how I got to be so lucky too. Guess I was just born under a lucky star.