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Post by scabab on Jul 5, 2017 13:33:26 GMT
It was good, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the best Spider-man movie, I believe that still goes to either of the first two Raimi Spider-man movies however it was better than the Amazing Spider-man movies.
No it isn't the best MCU movie but it is definitely in the better half of the group.
Tom Holland played a good Peter Parker and Spider-man, I'd say he was probably the best one to play that role so far.
Michael Keaton played a good part, Vulture was one of the better MCU villains though I suppose that's not really saying a lot. Not impressed with the Shocker, there wasn't much to him nor was he accurate to the comics.
Robert Downey Jr not in the movie as much as I thought he would be at all, maybe 15 minutes? A particular scene from the trailer where you see Spider-man and Iron Man fly off together wasn't even in the movie.
It was a light hearted movie, probably the most light hearted of all the MCU movies to date but that wasn't a bad thing at all because it fits someone like Spider-man.
The after credits weren't too interesting and didn't seem to lead to a great deal. There was a cameo appearance from someone I hadn't expected to see (not a new character) and I wasn't fond of the other little twist involving Michelle but that's not a big deal.
Overall I'd give the movie a 7/10. About as good as Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Wonder Woman.
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Post by miike80 on Jul 5, 2017 16:49:55 GMT
It was good, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the best Spider-man movie, I believe that still goes to either of the first two Raining Spider-man movies however it was better than the Amazing Spider-man movies. No it isn't the best MCU movie but it is definitely in the better half of the group. Tom Holland played a good Peter Parker and Spider-man, I'd say he was probably the best one to play that role so far. Michael Keaton played a good part, Vulture was one of the better MCU villains though I suppose that's not really saying a lot. Robert Downey Jr not in the movie as much as I thought he would be at all. A particular scene from the trailer where you see Spider-man and Iron Man fly off together wasn't even in the movie. It was a light hearted movie, probably the most light hearted of all the MCU movies to date but that wasn't a bad thing at all because it fits someone like Spider-man. The after credits weren't too interesting and didn't seem to lead to a great deal. There was a cameo appearance from someone I hadn't expected to see and I wasn't fond of the other little twist involving Michelle but that's not a big deal. Overall I'd give the movie a 7/10. About as good as Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Wonder Woman. Two types of comments incoming: 1- how could you give it 7?? It's garbage just like the rest of MCU 2-how could you give it a 7?? Everything you didn't like is actually good,you're just nitpicking,you must be a DCEU fan. I'll say just congrats for the balanced review |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 17:06:13 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 5, 2017 17:08:56 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise. Who would've guessed they'd stay consistent with the character from the comics? A movie about a wise-cracking teenager is light hearted - what a surprise. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 17:11:47 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise. And the problem with that is what exactly? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 5, 2017 17:12:12 GMT
Good to hear the movie doesn't revolve around Iron Man, though I didn't really expect it to. Looking forward to this flick, should be fun.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 17:13:44 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise. Who would've guessed they'd stay consistent with the character from the comics? A movie about a wise-cracking teenager is light hearted - what a surprise. Light hearted is where there are no consequences or stakes to the outcomes of the plot and characters. The first 2 Spidermans combined light heartedness with intensity. It seems this recent iteration follows Disney MCU. They're consistent, I'll give em that. |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 17:17:08 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise. And the problem with that is what exactly? Personal preference. I admire films where the hero goes through a journey of resilience and where the threat level is a real one. You can have light heartedness mixed with seriousness- they are not antithetical. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 5, 2017 17:17:32 GMT
Who would've guessed they'd stay consistent with the character from the comics? A movie about a wise-cracking teenager is light hearted - what a surprise. Light hearted is where there are no consequences or stakes to the outcomes of the plot and characters. The first 2 Spidermans combined light heartedness with intensity. It seems this recent iteration follows Disney MCU. They're consistent, I'll give em that. That's not what light heartedness means. Just because something has stakes doesn't mean it can't be light hearted. |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 17:19:58 GMT
Light hearted is where there are no consequences or stakes to the outcomes of the plot and characters. The first 2 Spidermans combined light heartedness with intensity. It seems this recent iteration follows Disney MCU. They're consistent, I'll give em that. That's not what light heartedness means. Just because something has stakes doesn't mean it can't be light hearted. I just said that in the above post. One common example in the MCU of Light heartedness is the hero mocking the villain for comedic value when the consequence is supposed to be world changing. Like Starlord dancing to Ronan as hes about to destroy the world. That's textbook lightheartndess. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 5, 2017 17:20:44 GMT
Who would've guessed they'd stay consistent with the character from the comics? A movie about a wise-cracking teenager is light hearted - what a surprise. Light hearted is where there are no consequences or stakes to the outcomes of the plot and characters. The first 2 Spidermans combined light heartedness with intensity. It seems this recent iteration follows Disney MCU. They're consistent, I'll give em that. There are plenty of consequences and stakes to every film in the MCU. A connected universe has to have consequences. Hell, a few of the films plots have revolved around the consequences from previous entries. But you're just going to bitch about MCU flicks because you're fighting a fan war I have no interest in. How many posts do you have on a board for movies you don't enjoy? You're consistent, I'll give you that. Good luck to you. |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 17:23:10 GMT
Light hearted is where there are no consequences or stakes to the outcomes of the plot and characters. The first 2 Spidermans combined light heartedness with intensity. It seems this recent iteration follows Disney MCU. They're consistent, I'll give em that. There are plenty of consequences and stakes to every film in the MCU. A connected universe has to have consequences. Hell, a few of the films plots have revolved around the consequences from previous entries. But you're just going to bitch about MCU flicks because you're fighting a fan war I have no interest in. How many posts do you have on a board for movies you don't enjoy? You're consistent, I'll give you that. Good luck to you. Simply giving my opinion instead of this board turning into a circle jerk for the MCU where there are zero criticisms aimed at it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 17:35:10 GMT
There are plenty of consequences and stakes to every film in the MCU. A connected universe has to have consequences. Hell, a few of the films plots have revolved around the consequences from previous entries. But you're just going to bitch about MCU flicks because you're fighting a fan war I have no interest in. How many posts do you have on a board for movies you don't enjoy? You're consistent, I'll give you that. Good luck to you. Simply giving my opinion instead of this board turning into a circle jerk for the MCU where there are zero criticisms aimed at it. FAP,FAP,FAP,LOVEMCU,FAP |
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Post by scabab on Jul 5, 2017 18:12:54 GMT
That's not what light heartedness means. Just because something has stakes doesn't mean it can't be light hearted. I just said that in the above post. One common example in the MCU of Light heartedness is the hero mocking the villain for comedic value when the consequence is supposed to be world changing. Like Starlord dancing to Ronan as hes about to destroy the world. That's textbook lightheartndess. That actually does not happen here. The Vulture is treated a serious threat to Spider-man throughout. At no point is he treated as comedic value, Spider-man doesn't joke about with him, insult him by calling him funny nicknames or anything like that which he did with other villains from other movies. Also the stakes involved are not as high as they are in most Marvel movies. He's not out to wipe out mankind or anything like that, he's just trying to steal Starks technology to sell it and Spider-man tries to stop him. |
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Post by kuatorises on Jul 5, 2017 18:44:30 GMT
Light hearted - what a surprise. Derp, derp, dark = good. Just look at the success of the DC universe so far.  |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 5, 2017 20:23:14 GMT
I just said that in the above post. One common example in the MCU of Light heartedness is the hero mocking the villain for comedic value when the consequence is supposed to be world changing. Like Starlord dancing to Ronan as hes about to destroy the world. That's textbook lightheartndess. That actually does not happen here. The Vulture is treated a serious threat to Spider-man throughout. At no point is he treated as comedic value, Spider-man doesn't joke about with him, insult him by calling him funny nicknames or anything like that which he did with other villains from other movies. Also the stakes involved are not as high as they are in most Marvel movies. He's not out to wipe out mankind or anything like that, he's just trying to steal Starks technology to sell it and Spider-man tries to stop him. Thats nice to hear, I look forward tp watching it on Saturday. |
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 5, 2017 21:36:00 GMT
Tom Holland played a good Peter Parker and Spider-man, I'd say he was probably the best one to play that role so far. this by itself will go a long way to building goodwill for me. your unfavorable comparison to the initial Raimi films makes me wonder how highly you regard them in the first place? |
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Post by skribb on Jul 5, 2017 22:07:20 GMT
It was a very different Spidey movie. The first Spidey movie to include a character flipping the bird, even.
I enjoyed many moments of this film, altho I am a little disappointed how they portrayed him as bumbling and crashing into buildings quite often, I mean by now he has had powers for a year and shouldn't be acting like he just got powers the other night. I am also disappointed that so many people now know the identity of Spidey.
There was a VERY unexpected twist in the movie which was a breath of fresh air in one sense, but also felt, to me, like a rehash of Raimi's Spider-Man.
Not happy with the execution of Vulture and Shocker as characters tho. Shocker didn't even have the suit that he was wearing in one of the set photo leaks, which pissed me off. He just had the yellow waffle sleeves and nothing else!
As for Zendaya's character I had a hunch that they would go the route they did.
I enjoyed the humor in the movie, the jokes landed well and were funny, unlike Whedon's MCU foray.
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Post by scabab on Jul 6, 2017 6:49:38 GMT
Tom Holland played a good Peter Parker and Spider-man, I'd say he was probably the best one to play that role so far. this by itself will go a long way to building goodwill for me. your unfavorable comparison to the initial Raimi films makes me wonder how highly you regard them in the first place? I love the original two Spider-man movies and even Spider-man 3 I thought wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. They had a certain kind of magic to them that I don't think any of the other Spider-man movies since, including this have. I can't quite put my finger on it. It just seemed more unique and natural, rather than how some of the them a bit more manufactured and standard now, like these superhero movies have a specific formula to follow. I felt the same with Batman and Batman Returns too. This Spider-man Homecoming does some things better and some things worse but it is a good movie. |
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Post by scabab on Jul 6, 2017 6:57:52 GMT
I'll tell you one thing I thought was odd though. I don't think this counts as a spoiler.
The movie started following the events of The Avengers and the Battle of New York. Then it says "8 years later" and it cuts to Peter Parker vlogging the events that happened in Civil War as we saw in the trailer.
How was that 8 years? Was the Avengers in 2012 and Civil War in 2020?
It can't be the other way around in that Civil War was in 2016 and The Avengers was set in 2008.
Did that make a mistake or something?
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