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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 5:37:01 GMT
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Imma go gather my thoughts and rewatch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 5:38:05 GMT
I usually hate long battle scenes, and typically tune parts of them out. One of the circles of Hell would have me strapped to a seat watching Kurosawa's Ran over and over. But they did a fantastic job with this one. Peter Jackson & co. could learn a thing or two, or three.I love LOTR but honestly, this battle outdid everything LOTR has ever done.
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Post by kevin on Aug 7, 2017 5:52:26 GMT
Well... that was incredible. A fantastic episode, just like 'Hardhome' every moment in the episode was great not just the battle. Daenerys & Jon have great chemistry and all the stuff in Winterfell is very interesting as well. But yeah, that battle. Wow! Definitely one of the best battles I've ever seen, TV or movie. A 10/10 and one of the best Game of Thrones episodes so far.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 7, 2017 6:14:21 GMT
Holy. Fucking. Shit. Imma go gather my thoughts and rewatch. Jaime charging the lizard bitch was the most insane moment of hope I felt in the series and maybe the second most positively emotional. The first was Cersei saying "Father" when Tywin entered the throne room at the end of the Blackwater battle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 6:34:14 GMT
Holy. Fucking. Shit. Imma go gather my thoughts and rewatch. Jaime charging the lizard bitch was the most insane moment of hope I felt in the series and maybe the second most positively emotional. The first was Cersei saying "Father" when Tywin entered the throne room at the end of the Blackwater battle. I gotta say, both Jaime and Bronn gave some every satisfying scenes in this episode. I take it you thought this one was decent?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 7, 2017 6:44:02 GMT
Jaime charging the lizard bitch was the most insane moment of hope I felt in the series and maybe the second most positively emotional. The first was Cersei saying "Father" when Tywin entered the throne room at the end of the Blackwater battle. I gotta say, both Jaime and Bronn gave some every satisfying scenes in this episode. I take it you thought this one was decent? I only watched the final sequence.
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Post by pk9 on Aug 7, 2017 7:13:07 GMT
Question: Should we stop watching the previouslys? Because they showed the damn crossbow in the previouslys, as soon as the battle started and Dany showed up, I knew that they had it with them somewhere in the convoy, and it was obvious Bronn was going for it. The way the episode was shot though, it seems like it was supposed to be a mystery: they gave the weapon a codename (Scorpion), and it was covered up, and so it was made to be a big reveal when the Dothraki guy opened the curtain to see the thing pointed at him.
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Post by PnkELee on Aug 7, 2017 7:24:43 GMT
Eh. Didnt vote.
Bron! Lol Bron was so done. "Take me back to Kings Landing!" That scene where hes stumbling all over the battlefield amidst smoke and carnage -thats the onset of PTSD. Hes going to hear dothraki screams and see dragon fire for the rest of his life. "It came from over the FOOKING hills, man!" LMAO!
Tyrion is not a "wartime consigliere". Lol And thats okay. Actually, Tyrions plan shouldnt have failed so ridiculously, but it did. Thanks to writers who just had to even the odds for Cersei. Whatever. Im trying to understand Tyrions motivations but perhaps he believes that Danys likely to lose control and preaches peace and diplomacy because he believes the "targaryen madness" is inherent. Something that he must actively work to restrain.
Jaime is a brave one.
I thought the southern army would be better outfitted. Then again, they dressed for a light siege so..yeah. Still cant believe that the most fruitful house in westeros was taken down so quickly. The siege of Highgarden shouldve lasted in terms of years, not days.
So, the reach and castle rock have no cavalry between them? Damn. Nothing but infantry, some pikeman and a company of archers. Smh
Does Sansa think that Aryas come to kill her? Well, they've never had the best relationship.
So Bran cant give spoilers until... the appointed time..or..? I understand Brans detachment. Hes literally seen it all.
Why did LF give Bran the dagger? Was it an icebreaker or to test the possible rumors? LF apparently recognized Brans seeming omniscience. Hes quickminded. He'll put two and two together. What then? He cant just run away to the Vale. It doesnt make sense to plot or even drive a wedge between the Starks. I wonder how long itll take before LF realizes that looting someones treasury and getting the hell out of Westeros is the best course of action?
Did the gold make it to kings landing?
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Post by kevin on Aug 7, 2017 8:43:03 GMT
I just want to say how amazing Drogon looks. That's the best dragon (in terms of visuals) I've ever seen. I mean, just look at it:
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Post by hi224 on Aug 7, 2017 8:56:37 GMT
Eh. Didnt vote. Bron! Lol Bron was so done. "Take me back to Kings Landing!" That scene where hes stumbling all over the battlefield amidst smoke and carnage -thats the onset of PTSD. Hes going to hear dothraki screams and see dragon fire for the rest of his life. "It came from over the FOOKING hills, man!" LMAO! Tyrion is not a "wartime consigliere". Lol And thats okay. Actually, Tyrions plan shouldnt have failed so ridiculously, but it did. Thanks to writers who just had to even the odds for Cersei. Whatever. Im trying to understand Tyrions motivations but perhaps he believes that Danys likely to lose control and preaches peace and diplomacy because he believes the "targaryen madness" is inherent. Something that he must actively work to restrain. Jaime is a brave one. I thought the southern army would be better outfitted. Then again, they dressed for a light siege so..yeah. Still cant believe that the most fruitful house in westeros was taken down so quickly. The siege of Highgarden shouldve lasted in terms of years, not days. So, the reach and castle rock have no cavalry between them? Damn. Nothing but infantry, some pikeman and a company of archers. Smh Does Sansa think that Aryas come to kill her? Well, they've never had the best relationship. So Bran cant give spoilers until... the appointed time..or..? I understand Brans detachment. Hes literally seen it all. Why did LF give Bran the dagger? Was it an icebreaker or to test the possible rumors? LF apparently recognized Brans seeming omniscience. Hes quickminded. He'll put two and two together. What then? He cant just run away to the Vale. It doesnt make sense to plot or even drive a wedge between the Starks. I wonder how long itll take before LF realizes that looting someones treasury and getting the hell out of Westeros is the best course of action?
Did the gold make it to kings landing? He seems fucked honestly, he will get a head in a pike very shortly, perhaps seasons conclusion.
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 7, 2017 9:38:00 GMT
I wonder if Ed Sheeran got roasted out there? We can only hope
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 7, 2017 11:49:46 GMT
Eh. Didnt vote. Bron! Lol Bron was so done. "Take me back to Kings Landing!" That scene where hes stumbling all over the battlefield amidst smoke and carnage -thats the onset of PTSD. Hes going to hear dothraki screams and see dragon fire for the rest of his life. "It came from over the FOOKING hills, man!" LMAO! Tyrion is not a "wartime consigliere". Lol And thats okay. Actually, Tyrions plan shouldnt have failed so ridiculously, but it did. Thanks to writers who just had to even the odds for Cersei. Whatever. Im trying to understand Tyrions motivations but perhaps he believes that Danys likely to lose control and preaches peace and diplomacy because he believes the "targaryen madness" is inherent. Something that he must actively work to restrain. Jaime is a brave one. I thought the southern army would be better outfitted. Then again, they dressed for a light siege so..yeah. Still cant believe that the most fruitful house in westeros was taken down so quickly. The siege of Highgarden shouldve lasted in terms of years, not days. So, the reach and castle rock have no cavalry between them? Damn. Nothing but infantry, some pikeman and a company of archers. Smh Does Sansa think that Aryas come to kill her? Well, they've never had the best relationship. So Bran cant give spoilers until... the appointed time..or..? I understand Brans detachment. Hes literally seen it all. Why did LF give Bran the dagger? Was it an icebreaker or to test the possible rumors? LF apparently recognized Brans seeming omniscience. Hes quickminded. He'll put two and two together. What then? He cant just run away to the Vale. It doesnt make sense to plot or even drive a wedge between the Starks. I wonder how long itll take before LF realizes that looting someones treasury and getting the hell out of Westeros is the best course of action? Did the gold make it to kings landing? I've already discussed how horrible the story's battle plans have become, but I'll reiterate that they are ridiculous and a setup for this particular awesome battle. No Sansa does not think Arya is there to kill her, but it's offputting to see that your kid sister is now a person with a kill list and better than the best warrior in Winterfell. Bran is not supposed to interfere regarding what has happened. Plus he has actually disconnected from his family, so avenging them doesn't interest him. I imagine his main purpose is to sit by that tree and predict how to defeat the white walkers by looking at past victories, current locales or see who the messiah is. The gold made it to King's Landing.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 7, 2017 12:10:22 GMT
No Sansa does not think Arya is there to kill her, but it's offputting to see that your kid sister is now a person with a kill list and better than the best warrior in Winterfell. The gold made it to King's Landing. The little psychopath with the kill list is Arya's tragedy and Sansa ought to be dismayed at getting this back instead of her lost sister. Making her the best warrior around, however, is dismaying to the audience who should feel utterly mocked. All is well if the gold made it back. The war can continue. The lizard bitch must die.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2017 12:18:09 GMT
Rey Kahuka Bronn probably won't be there for sure. The show is so different from the book it's impossible to know. I have a few gripes but in general I haven't had major issues with the changes between the books and the show. But I do think the last two books will be drastically different from the show, if only because the show doesn't want to take all of the best moments for itself. Leave something for the readers to enjoy for the first time.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 7, 2017 12:33:19 GMT
Rey Kahuka Bronn probably won't be there for sure. The show is so different from the book it's impossible to know. I have a few gripes but in general I haven't had major issues with the changes between the books and the show. But I do think the last two books will be drastically different from the show, if only because the show doesn't want to take all of the best moments for itself. Leave something for the readers to enjoy for the first time. The show cannot take the "best moments for itself" because it doesn't know about them. It's that simple.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2017 12:41:26 GMT
You know GRRM provides them with story notes, yeah? Yours is a tired act.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 7, 2017 12:50:27 GMT
You know GRRM provides them with story notes, yeah? Yours is a tired act. I know idiots of your kind invent what they want to believe in. The last time he did so was years ago, according to D&D. They're on their own without updates.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2017 13:30:36 GMT
Top 5 all time episodes for sure, so many classic moments. As soon as their scene began, I wondered how they would show Bran destroying Littlefinger. All it took was four words. "Chaos is a ladder." Translation: I literally know everything, bozo. I'm the one guy on this continent you cannot bullshit, not for a second. The look on Baelish's face was priceless. Also a great reaction shot of Theon when he sees Jon on the beach. Arya comes home; Arya & Brienne sparring; Dany foolishly doubling down on her claim to Jon; a dragon in a proper battle. No wonder there are less episodes this season, HBO probably had to take out a loan from the Iron Bank to make that battle look as incredible as it did. This was the first time I was rooting against Bronn and for Dany in any given scene. It was my first legit fist-pump Dany moment, they're usually contrived and eyeroll inducing. I wonder if Ed Sheeran got roasted out there? Makes you wonder how the whole scene will play out in the book (assuming GRRM ever finishes ASOIAF). This episode was as good as it gets, could possibly be my favorite episode overall due to the sheer volume of amazing moments. Hardhome and BotB were epic, but this episode gave us a legendary battle along with character moment after character moment from start to finish. Bravo. Totally with you on the Bronn thing! For the first time I wasn't sure who to root for...I've always loved Bronn, but Dany and her dragon won out. I didn't want to see Bronn die but I didn't want to see him get that spear off either! Now he will go back and tell Cersei it worked and she will commission a whole slew of them I'm sure! Not sure why Dany burned up all the food, she could have used it? Sometimes you have to take the lesser of two evils when you're talking ASOIAF. I didn't want to see Bronn roasted but I didn't want to lose a dragon, either. Funny how we didn't lose either one. It's interesting how the story gave us twist after twist for years but now that the story has progressed beyond the books they seem reluctant to kill off anyone important. Even Jaime was given a tropey rescue from certain death.
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Post by kevin on Aug 9, 2017 9:33:02 GMT
Just imagine these directors for season 8
Episode 1: Alan Taylor (Baelor, Fire and Blood) Episode 2: Neil Marshall (Blackwater, The Watches on the Wall, probably for the big early season battle) Episode 3: Alex Graves (The Children, The Mountain and the Viper, And Now His Watch Is Ended, Kissed by Fire etc.) Episode 4 and 6: Miguel Sapochnik (Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards, The Winds of Winter etc.) Episode 5: David Nutter (The Rains of Castamere, Mother's Mercy etc., probably the episode with a big unknown plot twist)
Now this would be epic!
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 10, 2017 15:42:53 GMT
The only thinh I missed during the battle was a shot of Lord Tarley's face when he realized that he bet on the wrong horse.
His son seems to be rather decent and also to some degree a capeable knight. He is no glory hunter like his father and is questioning if they're doing the right thing. And Jaime even respects his open doubts for when it matters he did his job...like when he killed that Dothraki.
I hope old Tarley dies a gruesome death, and the brothers can work something out.
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