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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 27, 2017 16:25:57 GMT
Yep, just as I thought. Poseur.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 28, 2017 9:00:09 GMT
For people who don't believe in the bible you belive man wrote the bible. That's because the Bible says so: that it was "inspired by God", i.e. not written by the deity.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Sept 28, 2017 15:29:36 GMT
...You know how God created every single thing in the world. He created evry human. I don't know that at all.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 2, 2017 16:03:14 GMT
...You know how God created every single thing in the world. He created evry human. I don't know that at all. That information is in a nonfiction book (or group of books if you like) called "The Bible". Once you read that, then you'll know. I mean, it's right there in every version of the Bible.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Oct 2, 2017 18:02:40 GMT
I don't know that at all. That information is in a nonfiction book (or group of books if you like) called "The Bible". Once you read that, then you'll know. I mean, it's right there in every version of the Bible. Well......since you put it that way.....you're right. I should fully believe a series of books that were written, rewritten, translated, edited, etc. a few thousand years ago. There's no possible room for error in.........what a minute! I see what you did there!
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Post by looking4klingons on Oct 14, 2017 1:21:57 GMT
The hatred against Jesus by the wolrd makes it undeniable that Christianity could only be alive today by supernatural forces, be they good or bad. Anyone who denies that is in delusion and comes across as a toothless redneck who dropped out in the sixth grade. No offense.
That's interesting since delusional toothless rednecks who dropped out in the sixth grade make such a bulk of American Christianity. And no offense taken... I'm not one.
And just so that I'm perfectly clear, I don't hate the Bible, or people who believe in it.
My mother believes in it, as do many others in my family, and many other fine people that I know. And for the most part I recognize that belief in religion can have many positive effects for many people. I just don't believe in it myself, and I don't understand how anyone with any intelligence can actually accept the Bible as anything other than apocryphal.
So you're saying that your Mother, and "other fine people", have no intelligence? I guess Boyle and Keppler had no intelligence, either?
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Post by looking4klingons on Oct 14, 2017 1:28:26 GMT
It's a parable about arachic times, that we need to move away from. It has caused nothing but staggering unrest, unease and confusion for humans throughout the centuries. Anyone with half a brain, should know that the majority of it is not to be taken literally. It is also misinterpreted to the max, for selective reasoning's and agendas. Christ was about transcendence and moving away from living in fear. Fear, is what the church's and many fundamentalist Christians promote. Oh, the irony! "It has caused nothing but staggering unrest, unease and confusion for humans throughout the centuries." Only ly when it's been mis-applied. But Mahatma Gandhi said applying Jesus words in Matthew 5-7 would solve the world's problems. Sounds very apropo, to me!
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Post by looking4klingons on Oct 17, 2017 8:46:38 GMT
"It has caused nothing but staggering unrest, unease and confusion for humans throughout the centuries." Only ly when it's been mis-applied. But Mahatma Gandhi said applying Jesus words in Matthew 5-7 would solve the world's problems. Sounds very apropo, to me! Well, most people are just out for themselves and will use whatever means they can to keep on top and stay in power. Using God or the bible as an excuse for their arrogance and ignorance, only shows how transparent they really are, when they are wanting to prove how righteous they are. Oh, the irony! I totally agree, but is that the book’s fault, or those who misuse it?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Oct 17, 2017 9:43:25 GMT
It can't be fantasy, because it defies all the clichés ... The story of Jesus is completely unprecedented... This is not correct, the story of Jesus has various different historical antecedents (EG: Mithras) This is an interesting observation, until one remembers say, how long Egyptian mythology prospered for. One is also not sure why a hundred years, or four generations, is a particularly good yardstick more than any other for the limits of 'naturally flourishing'. It is not necessary, either, for a purported deliberate supernatural entity not to exist simply because it has fallen out of ongoing common respect. We could all be heathens still and the Aztec gods (say) are the 'real' ones. Unless, of course, you have evidence in favour of your preferred entity's actual existence over that for all others? You are welcome to your opinions - though insulting potential critics of them, right off the bat, looks immediately defensive.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 17, 2017 9:55:20 GMT
Several depictions of Mithras show him wearing a Smurf hat. Can't say the same for Jesus.
The Cult of Mithras (like the Cult of Isis) was simply the ancient equivalent of modern Freemasonry.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Oct 17, 2017 20:15:30 GMT
Several depictions of Mithras show him wearing a Smurf hat. ... Maybe the Smurfs were actually wearing a Mithras hat.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 18, 2017 5:54:50 GMT
Several depictions of Mithras show him wearing a Smurf hat. ... Maybe the Smurfs were actually wearing a Mithras hat. Yes, what you said is probably the more accurate description.
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Post by captainbryce on Oct 19, 2017 11:32:18 GMT
I consider the Bible to be the most popular fantasy novel ever written. Opinions?
(Edit: Just so that I'm perfectly clear, I don't hate the Bible, or people who believe in it. My mother believes in it, as do many others in my family, and many other fine people that I know. And for the most part I recognize that belief in religion can have many positive effects for many people. I just don't believe in it myself, and I don't understand how anyone with any intelligence can actually accept the Bible as anything other than apocryphal.)
In the eye of the beholder.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 19, 2017 14:37:25 GMT
I consider the Bible to be the most popular fantasy novel ever written. Opinions?
(Edit: Just so that I'm perfectly clear, I don't hate the Bible, or people who believe in it. My mother believes in it, as do many others in my family, and many other fine people that I know. And for the most part I recognize that belief in religion can have many positive effects for many people. I just don't believe in it myself, and I don't understand how anyone with any intelligence can actually accept the Bible as anything other than apocryphal.)
In the eye of the beholder. I'm more interested in the beholders belief system than their eye. Do you believe in what can be proven, or do you believe in ghost stories and fairy tales for some sense of comfort?
Why do we cling to some myths and let others go? People actually believed in Zeus and Odin, and surely those gods were just as potent to their believers as "god" or Christ is to us now. When truly analyzed it just doesn't hold water.
I would love to believe, or more to the point have some kind of proof, that such things actually exist. I recently lost a pet I loved very much and I want to know, truly know, that he's in heaven, and that by extension I might go to heaven when my time comes and be reunited with all my loved ones. But as much as I hope it (and to a certain degree am confident that it is so) the truth is that I don't know it for sure. I cant just WILL myself to believe it just because my parent(s) taught it to me.
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Post by mslo79 on Nov 29, 2017 8:32:13 GMT
drystyxThat pretty much sums it up "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:18 That's referring to the Catholic church which is the one Jesus Christ started with Peter who was basically the first pope.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Nov 29, 2017 12:32:45 GMT
drystyx That pretty much sums it up "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:18 That's referring to the Catholic church which is the one Jesus Christ started with Peter who was basically the first pope. The same argument could be used today in favour of modern day Nazi-ism, and the cult of Hitler.
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