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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 18, 2017 16:08:37 GMT
The UK is only a small percentage of the worldwide Box office. The US premiere is a larger part of it, which will be on November 3rd. So for us US audience, we can read reviews a full 15 days before its release, two weeks. So when counting box office gross, you MCU fans want to count foreign box office even though the movie studios don't give a shit about foreign box office since they only get to keep very little of it, but you MCU fans don't want to count the foreign box office when it comes to release dates and embargoes. Such hypocrisy!
The fact is the embargo for Thor: Ragnarok is being lifted only 5 days before the premiere, not 15 days. It doesn't matter if the US release is 15 days later or 30 days later. The fact that Thor: Ragnarok is being released in UK and Taiwan on Oct 24 means spoilers will be out on Oct 24. So MCU has to lift the embargo before the spoilers come out and that's why they're releasing the embargo on Oct 19, just 5 days before the premiere.
If UK and Taiwan released on Nov 3 like the US, the embargo lift date would've been Oct 29 instead of Oct 19. But since UK and Taiwan are releasing on Oct 24, they had to move the embargo date up to Oct 19, which is just 5 days before the premiere. (It doesn't matter that UK and Taiwan are only a small percentage of the worldwide box office. There's this thing called the Internet. Once it's released in UK and Taiwan on Oct 24, spoilers will be all over the Internet on Oct 24.)
So no, MCU isn't that confident about Thor: Ragnarok because they're lifting the embargo only 5 days before the premiere.
Why are you so threatened by the embargo of Thor: Ragnarok? Are you worried that it'll be the 17th straight Marvel movie to receive positive reviews?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 16:08:46 GMT
Not much of one, actually. Well... not to split hairs Sammy but, six is greater than one. Hee hee hee... The fact that they chose to lift early was a powerful statement about their overall confidence in the film. Now, if they could only fix her accent. Hee hee hee... Eh, I don't mind. I'd have actually complained if she DID have a generic American accent.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 18, 2017 17:59:40 GMT
Wonder Woman embargo was lifted on May 31, two days before the US premiere. STOP LYING! The Wonder Woman embargo wasn't lifted on May 31. It was lifted before that. WB moved up the embargo lift date. You MCU fans are always constantly making up lies and excuses.Sheesh, did I struck a nerve there, Nancy?? As someone else put it, why are you so threatened by the embargo lift?? And repeating the same thing over but just in red doesn't make it anymore right. The red however does show how petulant you are right now about Thor being successful
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 18:11:38 GMT
STOP LYING! The Wonder Woman embargo wasn't lifted on May 31. It was lifted before that. WB moved up the embargo lift date. You MCU fans are always constantly making up lies and excuses. Sheesh, did I struck a nerve there, Nancy?? As someone else put it, why are you so threatened by the embargo lift?? And repeating the same thing over but just in red doesn't make it anymore right. The red however does show how petulant you are right now about Thor being successful It's not enough for DC-Fan that the DCEU finally made one decent movie, the MCU can't be allowed to succeed at all to finally please him. He thinks that DCEU shouldn't have any real competition.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 18, 2017 18:11:39 GMT
STOP LYING! The Wonder Woman embargo wasn't lifted on May 31. It was lifted before that. WB moved up the embargo lift date. You MCU fans are always constantly making up lies and excuses. Sheesh, did I struck a nerve there, Nancy?? As someone else put it, why are you so threatened by the embargo lift?? And repeating the same thing over but just in red doesn't make it anymore right. The red however does show how petulant you are right now about Thor being successful Why are you so upset and bothered that TDK won a major Oscar and that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st CBM to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 18:18:20 GMT
Sheesh, did I struck a nerve there, Nancy?? As someone else put it, why are you so threatened by the embargo lift?? And repeating the same thing over but just in red doesn't make it anymore right. The red however does show how petulant you are right now about Thor being successful Why are you so upset and bothered that TDK won a major Oscar and that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st CBM to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar? We're not upset, we just acknowledge that the only reason TDK got that Oscar is because Ledger died. And WW's campaign will come to nothing because it won't win jack.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 18, 2017 18:21:30 GMT
Why are you so upset and bothered that TDK won a major Oscar and that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st CBM to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar? We're not upset, we just acknowledge that the only reason TDK got that Oscar is because Ledger died. And WW's campaign will come to nothing because it won't win jack. Your constant excuses and denials suggest that you MCU fans are clearly upset and bothered by it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 18:22:24 GMT
We're not upset, we just acknowledge that the only reason TDK got that Oscar is because Ledger died. And WW's campaign will come to nothing because it won't win jack. Your constant excuses and denials suggest that you MCU fans are clearly upset and bothered by it. Nope, we're just not wanting you to get your hope too high when they inevitably crash down.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 18, 2017 18:35:57 GMT
Sheesh, did I struck a nerve there, Nancy?? As someone else put it, why are you so threatened by the embargo lift?? And repeating the same thing over but just in red doesn't make it anymore right. The red however does show how petulant you are right now about Thor being successful Why are you so upset and bothered that TDK won a major Oscar and that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st CBM to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar? I'm actually not upset there, Nancy. I'll be the first to admit that Heath Ledger gave an Oscar-Winning performance as the Joker. You know what, I'll say the same thing about Ian McKellen as Magneto (in either the first X-Men or X2, probably X1 tho) one of the most powerful performance from a comic book villain in a CBM movie and that came out 8 years earlier and was completely overlooked. Even RDJ gave an Oscar-Winning performance as Tony Stark. RDJ literally embodies him, on and off the screen. That dedication doesn't come around a lot. The Dark Knight was just the only at that time to actually campaign for the Oscar, but for Best Picture and Best Director for Nolan. But then Ledger died and almost immediately after he became a contender for Best Supporting Actor. Do the math genius, there have many Oscar-worthy performances in comic book movies even before the Dark Knight, and they were overlooked. Now all of a sudden they decided to give it to Ledger. I guarantee half of those votes were sympathy votes. But you know what, I could have overlooked that had Winter Soldier got some kind of nod. Deny it all you want, but Winter Solider was a major game changer for comic book movies. It did what BvS tried to do, to be this political thriller but with superheros and Winter Soldier did it without compromising what makes it a superhero film as well, something BvS failed at. Easily a Best Picture winner in terms of superhero films. And with Wonder Woman, some are only considering it for Best Picture, not because it is, but because of gender politics. Wonder Woman is a very formulaic film that is let down by the third act. It's just the same bullshit Liberal PC agenda influencing the Academies and it's dismissive to all the other female directors and actresses who have earned Oscars in some form and worked hard to earn them get where they are now. I won't have a problem if it gets it, but it'll just be a superficial nomination because the Liberal agenda basically told the Academy if it doesn't get an Oscar, they're sexist. And RottenTomatoes means jackshit. Waving around that "50 Best" article doesn't prove a damn thing. As I said, you tried using the regular RT score before to try and score some points against the MCU in your petulant grudge with them, but then when that failed, you jumped to the Adjusted score on the "50 Best" article and wave it around like it means something. If any superhero film this year has a chance for Best Picture or even Best Actor, it's Logan. The depths into which James Mangold went to understand the character of Logan was remarkable, and as character driven film which means heavy reliance on the performance of the cast, they delivered it Perfectly. You want to deflect all this, be my guest, but it isn't going to win over anyone if you do that
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Post by scabab on Oct 18, 2017 20:14:39 GMT
You guys realise that The Dark Knight did win an Oscar aside from Heath Ledger as well right?
It was also nominated for another 6.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 20:29:40 GMT
You guys realise that The Dark Knight did win an Oscar aside from Heath Ledger as well right? It was also nominated for another 6. Yeah, but that was due to the Pity Magnet it got.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 18, 2017 21:03:31 GMT
You guys realise that The Dark Knight did win an Oscar aside from Heath Ledger as well right? It was also nominated for another 6. Yeah, but that was due to the Pity Magnet it got. If you continue with this charade you will get a big Pity Magnet from me for your next birthday, sam. Promised.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 18, 2017 23:27:23 GMT
Yeah, but that was due to the Pity Magnet it got. If you continue with this charade I'll continue to offend the sensitive snowflakes who think it's bad taste to point out Ledger dying made it impossible to criticize TDK...even when it's the truth. But I can live with that.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 18, 2017 23:54:37 GMT
If you continue with this charade I'll continue to offend the sensitive snowflakes who think it's bad taste to point out Ledger dying made it impossible to criticize TDK...even when it's the truth. But I can live with that. So you're so jealous that MCU has never won an Oscar that you're going to continue exploiting a young man's death from 9 years ago as a weak excuse. You're basically no better than politicians that try to use the race card as an excuse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 0:10:43 GMT
I'll continue to offend the sensitive snowflakes who think it's bad taste to point out Ledger dying made it impossible to criticize TDK...even when it's the truth. But I can live with that. So you're so jealous that MCU has never won an Oscar that you're going to continue exploiting a young man's death from 9 years ago as a weak excuse. You're basically no better than politicians that try to use the race card as an excuse. Said the man who claimed every MCU fan disrespects by the military.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 19, 2017 0:12:33 GMT
I'll continue to offend the sensitive snowflakes who think it's bad taste to point out Ledger dying made it impossible to criticize TDK...even when it's the truth. But I can live with that. So you're so jealous that MCU has never won an Oscar that you're going to continue exploiting a young man's death from 9 years ago as a weak excuse. You're basically no better than politicians that try to use the race card as an excuse. Nope, I'm just pointing out the rather obvious truth that it was a Pity Oscar. And this is what led to all the other nominations TDK got.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 19, 2017 0:16:34 GMT
So you're so jealous that MCU has never won an Oscar that you're going to continue exploiting a young man's death from 9 years ago as a weak excuse. You're basically no better than politicians that try to use the race card as an excuse. Said the man who claimed every MCU fan disrespects by the military. And that's a true and accurate statement. Anyone who says that Steve Rogers sacrificed himself at the end of The First Avenger is insulting and disrespecting every US soldier who was killed or lost a limb fighting for their country.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 19, 2017 0:29:20 GMT
Said the man who claimed every MCU fan disrespects by the military. And that's a true and accurate statement. Anyone who says that Steve Rogers sacrificed himself at the end of The First Avenger is insulting and disrespecting every US soldier who was killed or lost a limb fighting for their country. Oh my god, you're going to start that again?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 19, 2017 0:48:27 GMT
Said the man who claimed every MCU fan disrespects by the military. And that's a true and accurate statement. Anyone who says that Steve Rogers sacrificed himself at the end of The First Avenger is insulting and disrespecting every US soldier who was killed or lost a limb fighting for their country. I have to wonder you'll try to spin it when they bring Steve Trevor back in WW2.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 19, 2017 1:20:15 GMT
And that's a true and accurate statement. Anyone who says that Steve Rogers sacrificed himself at the end of The First Avenger is insulting and disrespecting every US soldier who was killed or lost a limb fighting for their country. I have to wonder you'll try to spin it when they bring Steve Trevor back in WW2. He'll be in flashbacks, similar to Antiope being in flashbacks in Justice League. Nothing wrong with flashbacks.
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