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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 29, 2017 1:49:20 GMT
People who say that Ragnarok's tone didn't suit Thor are forgetting his very first stories in Marvel were about him fighting aliens and crazy Jack Kirby stuff. Nah, you can't forget what you never knew in the first place! Hey, wait a minute...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 2:12:31 GMT
I know I'm going to enjoy the film, its going to make a ton of money, and the MCU's future is secure. Tell me again why I should care. What do you mean why? Didn't you care when you saw that these other reviews gave Thor glowing reviews and it has a 99% or something on Rotten Tomatoes? If so why would you care what those reviewers thought but then not care what this reviewer thought? Really if you don't care that this reviewer doesn't like the comedy in the MCU movies then you shouldn't care about the reviewers you don't know either who gave it a good review. Those were pros. This guy's roughly on the same level of The Nostalgia Critic.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 29, 2017 6:34:18 GMT
Why should I care what Jeremy Jahns thinks? I stop following that moron after his negative review of GOTG 2. I enjoyed GOTG 2, so he can just fuck off. I'll just stick with Grace Randolph from Beyond the Trailer. At least she comes off as more intelligent and her box office analysis are interesting.
And these MCU movies aren't becoming parodies of themselves. Do you know what parody means? The GOTG franchise, Ant-Man, and Thor: Ragnarok just happen to have a little more humor than the rest of the MCU. Besides, Thor happens to work better as a comedy. So if you add more humor in the Thor sequel, add the fact that Chris Hemsworth is actually funny, surprise! Thor: Ragnarok is the best reviewed Thor film. A serious Thor film would look too much like Game of Thrones anyway.
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Post by merh on Oct 29, 2017 6:45:03 GMT
I know I'm going to enjoy the film, its going to make a ton of money, and the MCU's future is secure. Tell me again why I should care. What do you mean why? Didn't you care when you saw that these other reviews gave Thor glowing reviews and it has a 99% or something on Rotten Tomatoes? If so why would you care what those reviewers thought but then not care what this reviewer thought? Really if you don't care that this reviewer doesn't like the comedy in the MCU movies then you shouldn't care about the reviewers you don't know either who gave it a good review. I didn't really give a rat's rear about critics before the internet was prevalent. Why should I care now? Having actually watched "Hunt for the Wilderpeople", I am wondering if the humor everyone is bitching about is Marvel or the director. We'll have to wait until after people who have seen both put out opinions. But I figured out by the time I was 20 I know better about whether I would like a film than any critic.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 29, 2017 8:53:05 GMT
I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done. Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong. Surprised you dont like the Walkers. They hate DC and X-Men films yet rave about MCU. They gave a mixed review to Spiderman Homecoming, is that all it takes, 1 middling review to turn against them?
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Post by charzhino on Oct 29, 2017 8:57:05 GMT
And these MCU movies aren't becoming parodies of themselves. Do you know what parody means? The GOTG franchise, Ant-Man, and Thor: Ragnarok just happen to have a little more humor than the rest of the MCU. I dont know if youve seen Ragnorok but there's plenty of instances where Thor is clearly parodying his more serious demeanour from Thor 1 and 2.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 29, 2017 12:36:40 GMT
And these MCU movies aren't becoming parodies of themselves. Do you know what parody means? The GOTG franchise, Ant-Man, and Thor: Ragnarok just happen to have a little more humor than the rest of the MCU. I dont know if youve seen Ragnorok but there's plenty of instances where Thor is clearly parodying his more serious demeanour from Thor 1 and 2. It's called character growth. You can look back at how you used to act and think "Beh, I was kind of stuck up then".
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 16:33:25 GMT
Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong. Surprised you dont like the Walkers. They hate DC and X-Men films yet rave about MCU. They gave a mixed review to Spiderman Homecoming, is that all it takes, 1 middling review to turn against them? They don't like The Walkers because they're a pair of pretentious, egotistical wannabe film enthusiasts who strive too hard to be funny, are condescending to their viewers, and get their research very wrong in the majority of their content. And that's why I don't like them either. They both like to present themselves as "the authority" on pop culture, and comic book culture in particular, but they know so little its ridiculous.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 29, 2017 16:34:12 GMT
And these MCU movies aren't becoming parodies of themselves. Do you know what parody means? The GOTG franchise, Ant-Man, and Thor: Ragnarok just happen to have a little more humor than the rest of the MCU. I dont know if youve seen Ragnorok but there's plenty of instances where Thor is clearly parodying his more serious demeanour from Thor 1 and 2. I actually have not, I have to wait til this next week to see Thor: Ragnarok.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 29, 2017 18:23:01 GMT
I'm not familiar with those guys. If they're on YouTube, then I'm not surprised. Almost everyone there is completely devoid of all knowledge except for a few standouts. Doug Walker (The Nostalgia Critic, though he rarely reviews anything that can be called nostalgic anymore); and his douchebag older brother, Rob. Most times Doug is okay, but his brother is the one you can tell places his authority as the older brother. You can really see it when they are together and he constantly cuts Doug off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 18:25:24 GMT
Doug Walker (The Nostalgia Critic, though he rarely reviews anything that can be called nostalgic anymore); and his douchebag older brother, Rob. Most times Doug is okay, but his brother is the one you can tell places his authority as the older brother. You can really see it when they are together and he constantly cuts Doug off. And he really needs to stop doing that, since they're both men in their 30s now.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 29, 2017 18:30:13 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better. No way, you follow Oliver Harper's channel?? Love his commentaries he does with his friends
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 29, 2017 18:31:32 GMT
I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done. Agreed. I don't mind Jeremy, but his videos are not really worth writing home about, and it's pretty clear he has bias in lots of places which clouded his judgement when reviewing certain features. Yeah, I like Chris. Don't always agree with him, but he doesn't project a personality that his opinion is final word like some guys( *cough* Doug Walker *cough* John Campea *cough*) and seems like a good guy to talk to. Actually, I did talk to him once, over on IMDb prime back in the day. Back then he was little known and was sharing content on all sorts of places he was already part of, including IMDb. Talked to him briefly on a review of his. I do recommend checking out Oliver Harper's stuff, his retrospectives are pretty fascinating; the amount of research he puts into his videos is pretty incredible and his presentation is pretty flawless for the most part. I do not always agree with him on how he views a movie, but he's usually pretty fair and doesn't normally speak for anyone other than himself. I stopped watching anything with Campea. And that final word attitude is the reason why. Was so glad when AMC Movie Talk ended and he stopped being the main host of everything. Schnepp was the only person keeping me watching that. I like Stuckman's reviews. Only thing that got to me on him is that he had this soft authority on stuff because "he grew up with it." That kinda ended when people started pointing it out to him and he started using it as a joke.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 19:23:09 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better. No way, you follow Oliver Harper's channel?? Love his commentaries he does with his friends Yeah, discovered him about a year ago. The amount of effort he puts into his videos is impressive, I had no idea there actually was a fan site for Jaws 3 or that there was even a following strong enough to warrant one, but lo and behold he put it in his retrospective of the film.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 19:27:02 GMT
No way, you follow Oliver Harper's channel?? Love his commentaries he does with his friends Yeah, discovered him about a year ago. The amount of effort he puts into his videos is impressive, I had no idea there actually was a fan site for Jaws 3 or that there was even a following strong enough to warrant one, but lo and behold he put it in his retrospective of the film. I'm not surprised by that, really. A lot of films you wouldn't think would have strong followings just... do, for whatever reason. I love Oliver Harper, too. The guy knows his stuff and he's very interested in giving movies equal chances.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 29, 2017 19:35:19 GMT
I generally don't mind it but it does get annoying when it undercuts what would typically be a more dramatic moment in the story. Just let them happen. It's not gonna automatically transform your movie into BVS or something. It's much more common than during Phase 1. The 'Captain America' movies have avoided this thus far.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 19:37:39 GMT
Agreed. I don't mind Jeremy, but his videos are not really worth writing home about, and it's pretty clear he has bias in lots of places which clouded his judgement when reviewing certain features. Yeah, I like Chris. Don't always agree with him, but he doesn't project a personality that his opinion is final word like some guys( *cough* Doug Walker *cough* John Campea *cough*) and seems like a good guy to talk to. Actually, I did talk to him once, over on IMDb prime back in the day. Back then he was little known and was sharing content on all sorts of places he was already part of, including IMDb. Talked to him briefly on a review of his. I do recommend checking out Oliver Harper's stuff, his retrospectives are pretty fascinating; the amount of research he puts into his videos is pretty incredible and his presentation is pretty flawless for the most part. I do not always agree with him on how he views a movie, but he's usually pretty fair and doesn't normally speak for anyone other than himself. I stopped watching anything with Campea. And that final word attitude is the reason why. Was so glad when AMC Movie Talk ended and he stopped being the main host of everything. Schnepp was the only person keeping me watching that. I like Stuckman's reviews. Only thing that got to me on him is that he had this soft authority on stuff because "he grew up with it." That kinda ended when people started pointing it out to him and he started using it as a joke. I used to like Campea, but as the years have gone on his true colors began to pop-up more. He'll change his tune whenever he feels that he's in the "minority"(i.e. the Star Wars prequels) and he'll exaggerate every piece of information he comes across with. I really liked Schnepp when he was an occasional guest on those talk shows, but I feel he's overstayed his welcome with the AMC/Collider crew and should concentrate more on what he's actually better suited for, directing and writing, specially for animation - His episodes of The Venture Bros. and Metalocolypse were pretty darn awesome. He can talk a good deal about the stuff he likes, but the stuff he doesn't like he doesn't exactly project the best personality.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 19:40:33 GMT
Surprised you dont like the Walkers. They hate DC and X-Men films yet rave about MCU. They gave a mixed review to Spiderman Homecoming, is that all it takes, 1 middling review to turn against them? They don't like The Walkers because they're a pair of pretentious, egotistical wannabe film enthusiasts who strive too hard to be funny, are condescending to their viewers, and get their research very wrong in the majority of their content. And that's why I don't like them either. They both like to present themselves as "the authority" on pop culture, and comic book culture in particular, but they know so little its ridiculous. Yep. Gotta love how people throw potshots at me instead of asking for a thorough explanation of my views.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 19:41:09 GMT
Doug Walker (The Nostalgia Critic, though he rarely reviews anything that can be called nostalgic anymore); and his douchebag older brother, Rob. Most times Doug is okay, but his brother is the one you can tell places his authority as the older brother. You can really see it when they are together and he constantly cuts Doug off. True, but Doug can be very annoying, in-your-face, and put himself into a corner without his brother's help.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 29, 2017 19:54:17 GMT
No way, you follow Oliver Harper's channel?? Love his commentaries he does with his friends Yeah, discovered him about a year ago. The amount of effort he puts into his videos is impressive, I had no idea there actually was a fan site for Jaws 3 or that there was even a following strong enough to warrant one, but lo and behold he put it in his retrospective of the film. Definitely. Some of the most shittiest films out there that don't bother with any behind the scenes kind off stuff on their DVD release, Oliver really goes out of his way to find stuff like that, and it's quite impressive. And he and his buddy, Richard Jackson both went to school for film, and his other friend, Duncan Casey is actually an actor, so they all know their shit when it comes to film, and I'll definitely listen their reviews over someone who just decided to start a channel on reviewing films without any actual film knowledge.
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