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Post by charzhino on Oct 28, 2017 21:02:28 GMT
Jeremy Jahns, one of the biggest critics on YouTube and also an MCU fanboy; released his review on Thor Ragnarok yesterday. I was expecting him to be gushing and raving about it like he normally does but I was surprised he was quite critical about the films comedic tone. Heres the video. youtu.be/8UFFev0F5BEI also sense hes watering down his true feelings on it a lot as not to offend the hardcore MCU fanatics that are his viewers. And I 100% agree with him that MCU has seen the box office success that GotG series has generated (straight up comedies) and now want to propel films like Thor in the same direction, just make them outright comedies. Isnt this worrying to even the MCU fanatics on here? These movies are becoming parodies of themself. They are comedies first, super hero movies second. And also if you watch the youtube video, look at the top rated comments. They all share the same concern.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 28, 2017 21:14:20 GMT
People who say that Ragnarok's tone didn't suit Thor are forgetting his very first stories in Marvel were about him fighting aliens and crazy Jack Kirby stuff.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 28, 2017 21:15:41 GMT
Jeremy Jahns, one of the biggest critics on YouTube and also an MCU fanboy; released his review on Thor Ragnarok yesterday. I was expecting him to be gushing and raving about it like he normally does but I was surprised he was quite critical about the films comedic tone. Heres the video. youtu.be/8UFFev0F5BEI also sense hes watering down his true feelings on it a lot as not to offend the hardcore MCU fanatics that are his viewers. And I 100% agree with him that MCU has seen the box office success that GotG series has generated (straight up comedies) and now want to propel films like Thor in the same direction, just make them outright comedies. Isnt this worrying to even the MCU fanatics on here? These movies are becoming parodies of themself. They are comedies first, super hero movies second. And also if you watch the youtube video, look at the top rated comments. They all share the same concern. Jeremy Jahns is an idiot. Hee hee hee...
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 28, 2017 21:24:24 GMT
You need to grow up.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 28, 2017 21:25:37 GMT
Jeremy Jahns, one of the biggest critics on YouTube and also an MCU fanboy; released his review on Thor Ragnarok yesterday. I was expecting him to be gushing and raving about it like he normally does but I was surprised he was quite critical about the films comedic tone. Heres the video. youtu.be/8UFFev0F5BEI also sense hes watering down his true feelings on it a lot as not to offend the hardcore MCU fanatics that are his viewers. And I 100% agree with him that MCU has seen the box office success that GotG series has generated (straight up comedies) and now want to propel films like Thor in the same direction, just make them outright comedies. Isnt this worrying to even the MCU fanatics on here? These movies are becoming parodies of themself. They are comedies first, super hero movies second. And also if you watch the youtube video, look at the top rated comments. They all share the same concern. YOu know what I think, I think multiple viewers have problems with the comedic emphasis of this movie. But they're probably so busy enjoying the movie and having fun that they rate it high anyway. That's pretty much what Jeremy Jahns said in this review. He didn't like the over use of humor, but he ended up still enjoying the movie.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 28, 2017 21:29:57 GMT
People who say that Ragnarok's tone didn't suit Thor are forgetting his very first stories in Marvel were about him fighting aliens and crazy Jack Kirby stuff. Theres no issue with fighting aliens and seeing crazy other world species, the issue he is raising (and 100s in the comment section) is that MCU are going overboard with the comedic tone to the point where they are neglecting any meaningful story and character. And its a worrying trend because box office take drives what kind of MCU movies well see in the future. Theyve been escalating the comedy every new film so much; how can you not be worried about the tone for Infinity war at this point.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 28, 2017 21:31:43 GMT
Its a genuine question backed up by a once ultra pro MCU youtube critic and a lot of his viewers which say the same thing. If thats all you can contribute then stay out of this thread.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 28, 2017 23:18:19 GMT
Theyve been escalating the comedy every new film so much; how can you not be worried about the tone for Infinity war at this point. Because IW is directed by the Russo's, and both TWS and CW weren't heavy on comedy.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 0:06:52 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 0:16:01 GMT
Who the hell is Jeremy Jahns and why should I care?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Oct 29, 2017 0:22:45 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better. I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 29, 2017 0:28:48 GMT
I think there is, reviewers and audience members have this instinctive hatred of that kind of stuff. They want the stories "grounded" or nothing.
No offense, but that kind of attitude doesn't hold up against classics like Back to the Future and Ghostbusters.
Because I have faith.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 0:29:07 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better. I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done. Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Oct 29, 2017 0:32:40 GMT
I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done. Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong. I'm not familiar with those guys. If they're on YouTube, then I'm not surprised. Almost everyone there is completely devoid of all knowledge except for a few standouts.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 29, 2017 0:34:49 GMT
Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong. I'm not familiar with those guys. If they're on YouTube, then I'm not surprised. Almost everyone there is completely devoid of all knowledge except for a few standouts. Walker Brothers = Nostalgia Critic (Doug Walker) and Rob Walker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 0:35:25 GMT
Well, that definitely puts Stuckmann above the Walker brothers, who love to brag about their knowledge of film... while getting just about half of everything about the films they discuss wrong. I'm not familiar with those guys. If they're on YouTube, then I'm not surprised. Almost everyone there is completely devoid of all knowledge except for a few standouts. Doug Walker (The Nostalgia Critic, though he rarely reviews anything that can be called nostalgic anymore); and his douchebag older brother, Rob.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 29, 2017 0:58:05 GMT
It's a sad day when Jeremy Jahns is considered "the final word" in a serious film discussion, the guy can be funny and all but he barely fits the description of what a true film critic is and barely expresses his opinions out further than "yeah it was tiiiight, bros!" or "man, this movie suuuuucked!" Oliver Harper is better. I used to really like him (Jahns), but he knows almost nothing about actual filmmaking. Chris Stuckmann is my guy. He's the only critic that I consistently agree with and he knows how actual filmmaking is done. Agreed. I don't mind Jeremy, but his videos are not really worth writing home about, and it's pretty clear he has bias in lots of places which clouded his judgement when reviewing certain features. Yeah, I like Chris. Don't always agree with him, but he doesn't project a personality that his opinion is final word like some guys( *cough* Doug Walker *cough* John Campea *cough*) and seems like a good guy to talk to. Actually, I did talk to him once, over on IMDb prime back in the day. Back then he was little known and was sharing content on all sorts of places he was already part of, including IMDb. Talked to him briefly on a review of his. I do recommend checking out Oliver Harper's stuff, his retrospectives are pretty fascinating; the amount of research he puts into his videos is pretty incredible and his presentation is pretty flawless for the most part. I do not always agree with him on how he views a movie, but he's usually pretty fair and doesn't normally speak for anyone other than himself.
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Post by scabab on Oct 29, 2017 0:58:49 GMT
Who the hell is Jeremy Jahns and why should I care? He's one of the biggest YouTube reviewers, so really one of the most well known reviewers in general. In which case you should care about as much as any reviewer who makes a positive or negative comment on these movies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 1:05:17 GMT
Who the hell is Jeremy Jahns and why should I care? He's one of the biggest YouTube reviewers, so really one of the most well known reviewers in general. In which case you should care about as much as any reviewer who makes a positive or negative comment on these movies. I know I'm going to enjoy the film, its going to make a ton of money, and the MCU's future is secure. Tell me again why I should care.
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Post by scabab on Oct 29, 2017 1:14:16 GMT
He's one of the biggest YouTube reviewers, so really one of the most well known reviewers in general. In which case you should care about as much as any reviewer who makes a positive or negative comment on these movies. I know I'm going to enjoy the film, its going to make a ton of money, and the MCU's future is secure. Tell me again why I should care. What do you mean why? Didn't you care when you saw that these other reviews gave Thor glowing reviews and it has a 99% or something on Rotten Tomatoes? If so why would you care what those reviewers thought but then not care what this reviewer thought? Really if you don't care that this reviewer doesn't like the comedy in the MCU movies then you shouldn't care about the reviewers you don't know either who gave it a good review.
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