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Post by dnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 18:02:35 GMT
It is generally 50 percent because of exactly what you said, bigger studios like Disney and Warner brothers get about 40 percent overseas and 60 percent domestically(Disney is even trying to get 65 percent for The Last Jedi). I never claimed that JL was a success because it doubled its production budget. Only that it most certainly was not a failure as the troll above keeps claiming. That is based on simple math. Advertising costs are also problematic to figure out. Remember earlier this year WB had only spent about 15 million to advertise Wonder Woman by the time the week of release rolled around. A very small number for how much we seen on TV and whatnot. So, the big question really is, how much advertising does WB and Disney pay for since they both own major media outlets? Is Disney really charging ABC(whom they own) to run Last Jedi ads?ย And lets touch on home video, because studios see a massive percent of that money and we never really look at that anymore because people think it is dead. Home video is certainly not dead, in fact it is still huge. The only difference is DVDs and the psychical media is falling down. On Demand viewings from Comcast, VOD outlets and whatnot are massive. And DVD and Blu-Ray still big in big money. The numbers are still not fully in for Wonder Woman for example, but so far the numbers for that movie on DVD and Blu-Ray have it over 50 million dollars just domestically. This is absolutely pathetic when you think about it. Bottom line - This is a Justice League movie. In a vacuum, it should have grossed well over $1 billion worldwide. Even allowing for the fact it has come on the back of stinkbombs like BvS and Suicide Squad, it should still have managed a paltry $800 million. But instead, it is barely going to crawl past $650 million worldwide and may not even outgross the DCU's first installment - MoS. The movie is an ABJECT FAILURE. WB have begun to sack people, move people around and alter their slate because the movie is an abject failure. Would they do this if everything was fine? No. And yet, here you are, a desperate DCU extremist in denial, unable to admit the movie is a failure and espousing the existence of these amazing deals WB has done with theater chains worldwide (which you have zero proof of), and claiming the advertising budget was paid for with some loose change Kevin Tsujihara found in his coat pocket. All to prove that JL had made a tiny amount of money at the BO. Like that would actually make everything okay?! For the record, I have never said the movie won't make it's money back......eventually. The Forbes article (written by someone with considerable experience within the industry, who knows a lot more about how things work than either you or I. So maybe you'd care to explain how your knowledge is greater than his in these matters? ) which broke it all down and cited $650 million as the break even point seemed pretty accurate to me. As far as it's performance in theaters goes, it is a shit-ton of money in the hole and will need all of that ancillary money to come in before WB make their investment back. At the end of the day, this movie isn't going to manage to gross $700 million worldwide. It is more than likely that it won't manage to outgross Doctor Strange. Go ahead, bury your head in the sand and pretend it made some money. Even you won't be able to make something positive out of this movie's lowly position in the CBM movie BO list. Even though I expect you to have a good try...... By March it will be a different story.
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Post by cricket on Dec 17, 2017 20:24:07 GMT
Estimates for the weekend are $4.17 million so for once actually better than Deadlines estimate of $3.9 million. Also a 57% drop instead of 60%. Worldwide it's at $634 million. Expected but hoped for more. Edit: Gitesh Pandya is now saying it might be finish in the range of $675 million so inbetween Man of Steel and Doctor Strange. 675 million? I don't think that will happen. Not with an international take this weekend of 5.3 millions and a 67% drop. The international drop is making the weekends boxoffice dangerously close to the domastic take. International is almost dead now. Movies overseas do not stay as long as in the domestic theaters.
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Post by scabab on Dec 17, 2017 21:02:24 GMT
675 million? I don't think that will happen. Not with an international take this weekend of 5.3 millions and a 67% drop. The international drop is making the weekends boxoffice dangerously close to the domastic take. International is almost dead now. Movies overseas do not stay as long as in the domestic theaters. Well it's got the Xmas and New Year Weekends now. At least domestically it shouldn't fall too much next weekend. Then the weekend after that it should see an increase. I don't know is if that applies to overseas so strongly due to beliefs but it shouldn't fall so strong now until the New Year.
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Post by scabab on Dec 18, 2017 21:34:51 GMT
Actuals came in higher. It's now at $636 million.
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Post by scabab on Dec 19, 2017 16:27:59 GMT
Movie made $525,000 Monday a 29% drop from last week.
I have no idea what it'll be at by Sunday because of the holidays and everything but worldwide it should pass Thor Dark World.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 19, 2017 18:49:44 GMT
Any predictions for the final numbers? Also does anyone know when the film leaves the theaters?
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Post by dazz on Dec 19, 2017 20:39:48 GMT
Any predictions for the final numbers? Also does anyone know when the film leaves the theaters? If previous films set the standard to go by then it's likely another 9-10 weeks before it ends it's theatrical run, putting it around mid-late February
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 1:02:42 GMT
Any predictions for the final numbers? Also does anyone know when the film leaves the theaters? Close to $700 million, or close to it.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 20, 2017 20:51:24 GMT
Any predictions for the final numbers? Also does anyone know when the film leaves the theaters? Close to $700 million, or close to it. Watch that be the opening weekend for Infinity War.
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Post by darkpast on Dec 21, 2017 4:32:38 GMT
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Post by scabab on Dec 21, 2017 12:19:39 GMT
Ouch 59%? Fantastic Beasts only lost 35% of its screens on the same weekend.
That's any chance of making $240 million gone then. It might pass Doctor Strange....dunno about Fantastic Beasts.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 23, 2017 5:08:38 GMT
I guess I should point out that itโs at $638 million now. Not good, but at least itโs made more than Transformers: The Last Knight.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 23, 2017 16:33:00 GMT
I guess I should point out that itโs at $638 million now. Not good, but at least itโs made more than Transformers: The Last Knight. Take that, Michael Bay!
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Dec 23, 2017 18:52:55 GMT
So has Justice League's badness been absolutely proven once and for all by the box office of The Last Jedi, as many here had gleefully and giddily portended?
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Post by dnno1 on Dec 23, 2017 23:53:11 GMT
Ouch 59%? Fantastic Beasts only lost 35% of its screens on the same weekend. That's any chance of making $240 million gone then. It might pass Doctor Strange....dunno about Fantastic Beasts. The other difference is that Fantastic Beasts had a late release in Japan. That helped boost the overseas box office numbers. Now the real question is if the 59% drop the same for the foreign theatres as well?
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Post by scabab on Dec 24, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
Massive 75% drop in US.
Worldwide it's at $646 million so it's passed Thor Dark World.
It will pass $650 million but any chance of passing Man of Steel has all but gone now.
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Post by dnno1 on Dec 25, 2017 2:58:05 GMT
Massive 75% drop in US. Worldwide it's at $646 million so it's passed Thor Dark World. It will pass $650 million but any chance of passing Man of Steel has all but gone now. Fantastic Beasts made a little shy of $230 million at the domestic box office and Justice League is still on course for matching that. It's the foreign box office that will have to pick up the slack now.
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Post by harpospoke on Dec 25, 2017 3:34:29 GMT
Well I might buy another ticket for this one since I liked it about 10x more than the horrible Star Wars movie. Need something to clean my palette.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2017 8:46:40 GMT
There is only one more showing in my countries biggeat multiplex. No not one theatre showing it, only one time a day they show this. At midnight.
JL is dead here.
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Post by darkpast on Dec 25, 2017 9:00:56 GMT
what a disaster
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