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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 24, 2017 18:16:52 GMT
I understand having it just to show that Wonder Woman is still active, but it really had no bearing on the actual story of the film. If they were smart, they could have used it to introduce some minor DC villains or gangs and set something up for future films. But they were so generic. Reactionary terrorists? They might as well had made them Muslim terrorists. Even the bomb looked generic with the LED countdown. Felt like a cartoon. It was a wasted scene for me.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 24, 2017 18:19:28 GMT
Since comparisons are being made, it was more reminiscent of Black Widow's interrogation scene in Avengers. Nothing important, just showing her typical day.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 24, 2017 19:01:02 GMT
My money was wasted.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 24, 2017 19:03:18 GMT
Didn't they say they were responding to the arrival of aliens? So that put it in some context, and showed some people still don't like the existence of Superman (unless my memory is complete crap).
That scene was pretty cartoony, though. I laughed when the guy straight up said "We are a reactionary terrorist group!" Even with the lasso, that's some on the nose dialogue.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 24, 2017 22:07:06 GMT
I loved that scene. If it were removed the story wouldn't be changed but there would be 1 less good action scene in an action movie.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 24, 2017 22:33:32 GMT
Am I the only one who noticed one of the goons told Diana she was already too late, the countdown already started. Then the next scene shows other goon barely starting the countdown. Now that's bad writing.
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Post by merh on Nov 24, 2017 22:49:25 GMT
Since comparisons are being made, it was more reminiscent of Black Widow's interrogation scene in Avengers. Nothing important, just showing her typical day. She was working. She was called out of an existing gig to recruit Hulk. Point being, it showed how swiftly she disposed of the problem when she needed to move on.
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Post by merh on Nov 24, 2017 22:51:13 GMT
I understand having it just to show that Wonder Woman is still active, but it really had no bearing on the actual story of the film. If they were smart, they could have used it to introduce some minor DC villains or gangs and set something up for future films. But they were so generic. Reactionary terrorists? They might as well had made them Muslim terrorists. Even the bomb looked generic with the LED countdown. Felt like a cartoon. It was a wasted scene for me. Yeah. My attitude was one more drag to get to Supes.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 25, 2017 2:30:06 GMT
It was a waste. They should have made those guys Intergang, Darkseid's usual human henchmen in the DC Universe.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 25, 2017 3:44:09 GMT
It was a waste. They should have made those guys Intergang, Darkseid's usual human henchmen in the DC Universe. How about an intergangbang?
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Post by pk9 on Nov 26, 2017 18:04:38 GMT
Am I the only one who noticed one of the goons told Diana she was already too late, the countdown already started. Then the next scene shows other goon barely starting the countdown. Now that's bad writing. The lasso makes the guy tell the truth. It doesn't make him clairvoyant to know whether or not his leader actually started the countdown on schedule. If he erroneously believed the countdown had started, then he'd say what he said. On the other hand, he also said the bomb would wipe out 4 city blocks. WW only got that thing like 100 feet into the air, so there should still have been a lot of damage and casualties.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 26, 2017 18:11:31 GMT
Am I the only one who noticed one of the goons told Diana she was already too late, the countdown already started. Then the next scene shows other goon barely starting the countdown. Now that's bad writing. The lasso makes the guy tell the truth. It doesn't make him clairvoyant to know whether or not his leader actually started the countdown on schedule. If he erroneously believed the countdown had started, then he'd say what he said. On the other hand, he also said the bomb would wipe out 4 city blocks. WW only got that thing like 100 feet into the air, so there should still have been a lot of damage and casualties. You're right, that bomb could've caused damaged to that building, but not 4 city blocks. Also, was it a suicide mission?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 26, 2017 21:28:44 GMT
Since comparisons are being made, it was more reminiscent of Black Widow's interrogation scene in Avengers. Nothing important, just showing her typical day. Not quite. During the Black Widow's interrogation she is on the phone with Caulson who is retasking her and alerting her to Barton's abduction - it ties into the plot. Wonder Woman's scene is just an action scene that was made cause... Wonder Woman. It looked like it was obviously beefed up in reshoots. Someone said, yeah, we need more Wonder Woman in this movie - right up front. She uses ALL of her abilities against run-of-the-mill-terrorists - strength, speed, invulnerability, fight prowess, bullet deflection, flight (or high jumps), energy redirection... they even squeezed in the lasso and her posing awkwardly on a random statue. Did she have to incinerate dude with that energy blast at the end?
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 27, 2017 5:36:19 GMT
Since comparisons are being made, it was more reminiscent of Black Widow's interrogation scene in Avengers. Nothing important, just showing her typical day. Did she have to incinerate dude with that energy blast at the end? Hell yeah! The guy was willing to set off a bomb with plenty of hostages (many children) there. When Wonder Woman thwarted that plan, he tried to shoot all the hostages. He had no regard for human life so he deserved what he got.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 27, 2017 8:50:25 GMT
Did she have to incinerate dude with that energy blast at the end? Hell yeah! The guy was willing to set off a bomb with plenty of hostages (many children) there. When Wonder Woman thwarted that plan, he tried to shoot all the hostages. He had no regard for human life so he deserved what he got. At that point, he wasn't a threat to anyone, least of all a demigod. That man had a right to due process. Face it, Wonder Woman is a murderer. And were they robbing the bank or trying to blow it up or both? WTF?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 27, 2017 15:33:10 GMT
Did she have to incinerate dude with that energy blast at the end? Hell yeah! The guy was willing to set off a bomb with plenty of hostages (many children) there. When Wonder Woman thwarted that plan, he tried to shoot all the hostages. He had no regard for human life so he deserved what he got. Yet, you accuse Captain America of bring judge, jury and executioner. How is it any different with Wonder Woman? Why does she get a pass?
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Post by dknaveed23 on Nov 27, 2017 18:19:23 GMT
It ain't a bank robbery, it was a hostage situation by terrorists. They infiltrated the Old Bailey, not a bank. Just saying...
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 28, 2017 4:05:53 GMT
Hell yeah! The guy was willing to set off a bomb with plenty of hostages (many children) there. When Wonder Woman thwarted that plan, he tried to shoot all the hostages. He had no regard for human life so he deserved what he got. At that point, he wasn't a threat to anyone, least of all a demigod. That man had a right to due process. Face it, Wonder Woman is a murderer. And were they robbing the bank or trying to blow it up or both? WTF? He was still holding a machine gun so he was still a threat. Also, moments earlier he had tried to blow up the building so he obviously was willing to die. So who knows if he might have been carrying more explosives on him? He was a threat that needed to be taken out.
And they weren't robbing the bank. The 1 guy said they were terrorists. They were trying to blow up the building and kill all the hostages (many of them children).
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 28, 2017 4:08:23 GMT
Hell yeah! The guy was willing to set off a bomb with plenty of hostages (many children) there. When Wonder Woman thwarted that plan, he tried to shoot all the hostages. He had no regard for human life so he deserved what he got. Yet, you accuse Captain America of bring judge, jury and executioner. How is it any different with Wonder Woman? Why does she get a pass? 1st, Wonder Woman isn't aiding and abetting a double-murderer like Cap did. 2nd, the guy was still holding a machine gun, which had used to fire at hostages (many of them children) just seconds earlier. So Wonder Woman was justified to use whatever force necessary against an armed terrorist who already demonstrated that he had no regard for human life and was willing to kill children.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 28, 2017 4:16:33 GMT
It ain't a bank robbery, it was a hostage situation by terrorists. They infiltrated the Old Bailey, not a bank. Yes, that's why that scene was a great scene and wasn't a wasted scene like Black Widow's scene in the beginning of The Avengers. The Old Bailey is the central criminal court of England. So Justice League begins with armed terrorists trying to blow up Justice (the central criminal court of England) and Wonder Woman saving Justice by saving all the hostages and taking down the armed terrorists. It was a great way to start the movie.
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