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Post by audiosane on Dec 31, 2017 15:48:23 GMT
Yeah... that sounds like something Disney would order him to say.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 31, 2017 15:59:49 GMT
You're full of crap. Watch the following video. Just as I predicted, you couldn't back up your claims with actual evidence if your pathetic life depended on it.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 31, 2017 17:10:12 GMT
You're full of crap. Watch the following video. Just as I predicted, you couldn't back up your claims with actual evidence if your pathetic life depended on it. I just did provide evidence. Not my fault you're so pathetic that you're totally in denial about it. Nobody's buying into your nonsense, Disney shill. They can see the evidence right in front of their faces.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 20:21:29 GMT
Hamill clearly thought that Rian Johnson was a hack as do half the fans who saw the movie. You couldn't back up this claim with evidence if your pathetic life depended on it. Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? You're right, no evidence.
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Post by shinnickneth on Dec 31, 2017 20:31:36 GMT
Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? You're right, no evidence. That might be a bit unfair to attribute to Mark Hamill. While he said he disagreed with the direction Rian took with Luke and the series, I don't think he doubted Rian's ability as a director/writer. Rian has proven he can direct through his work with Breaking Bad, but he did do a bad job (in my opinion) with Episode 8.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 20:38:35 GMT
Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? You're right, no evidence. That might be a bit unfair to attribute to Mark Hamill. While he said he disagreed with the direction Rian took with Luke and the series, I don't think he doubted Rian's ability as a director/writer. Rian has proven he can direct through his work with Breaking Bad, but he did do a bad job (in my opinion) with Episode 8. You're right. I should have said "write and direct this Star Wars movie." There is no doubt as to the truth of that specific statement, though.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 31, 2017 21:46:33 GMT
I just did provide evidence. Not my fault you're so pathetic that you're totally in denial about it. No, you did not provide evidence, and if you sincerely think you did and aren't just trolling like a child, then you have no concept of what it means to support an argument with facts that actually lead to your desired conclusion. All you did was post a series of out of context clips in which Mark Hamill whined about the character of Luke and reminded us all why he's paid to act and not direct, write, or think. At no point did he disparage the talents of Rian Johnson. You also neglected to post quotes in which he actually praised both Johnson and the movie, since that would have hurt your case even more. In other words, your ability to cite evidence is about as trustworthy as a Creationist quoting Darwin, since your interest in truth, honesty, and accuracy is about on their level.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 31, 2017 21:48:36 GMT
Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? More butthurt idiot fan delusions. He expressed no such doubts. You people are really desperate, aren't you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 21:51:13 GMT
I just did provide evidence. Not my fault you're so pathetic that you're totally in denial about it. In other words, your ability to cite evidence is about as trustworthy as a Creationist quoting Darwin, since your interest in truth, honesty, and accuracy is about on their level. Ah, the angry nerd atheist. Becoming less rare these days. Now I know you don't get laid much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 21:54:25 GMT
Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? More butthurt idiot fan delusions. He expressed no such doubts. You people are really desperate, aren't you? Try pulling your head out of Nietzsche's ass for five seconds and re-read the quote. He's apologizing for voicing his doubts about RJ's ability to write and direct TLJ. That's...blatantly what he said.
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Post by shinnickneth on Dec 31, 2017 22:35:46 GMT
You're right. I should have said "write and direct this Star Wars movie." There is no doubt as to the truth of that specific statement, though. Fair is fair.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 31, 2017 22:44:51 GMT
I just did provide evidence. Not my fault you're so pathetic that you're totally in denial about it. No, you did not provide evidence, and if you sincerely think you did and aren't just trolling like a child, then you have no concept of what it means to support an argument with facts that actually lead to your desired conclusion. All you did was post a series of out of context clips in which Mark Hamill whined about the character of Luke and reminded us all why he's paid to act and not direct, write, or think. At no point did he disparage the talents of Rian Johnson. You also neglected to post quotes in which he actually praised both Johnson and the movie, since that would have hurt your case even more. In other words, your ability to cite evidence is about as trustworthy as a Creationist quoting Darwin, since your interest in truth, honesty, and accuracy is about on their level. If you had paid attention you would've noticed at the end of the video there were contrasting comments from Hamill. It still doesn't change certain things he said. As I already said, you could put the entire context around statements like "Luke Skywalker would never do that... I had to channel another character... A Jedi would never do such things! A Jedi is positive! He would take 6 months to regroup, not 20 or 30 years!" Only a complete idiot such as yourself would try to insist that's not evidence. You're like a little child that someone shows you your toy takes AA batteries, and you put your hands over your eyes and say "No it doesn't, those are C batteries! Lalalalalala! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" You're a joke! And no one on this thread agrees with you. But only idiot in denial like yourself wouldn't realize that nobody's buying your garbage because it doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 31, 2017 22:48:58 GMT
Other than the fact that he just apologized for voicing his doubts about Rian Johnson's ability to write and direct? More butthurt idiot fan delusions. He expressed no such doubts. You people are really desperate, aren't you? Go screw yourself. You're full of crap. Which is why you can't put up any evidence to prove us wrong. Just make stupid, untrue statements that you're right and we're wrong. Go screw yourself.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 1, 2018 5:28:41 GMT
What's interesting is that Rian Johnson has talked about how he would sit down and work on the script with Carrie Fisher. However, I haven't read any accounts or watched any interviews where he talks about doing that with Mark Hamill. Have you? Carrie Fisher worked for years as a professional script doctor but yes, its weird that the star of the original trilogy would not be able to give any input which is what sounds like happened. They were like, here's a few million, shut the fuck up and do this. He attended a convention to promote Star Wars in 1976 so he was always committed to its fandom. I have a book on Ray Harryhausen and there is an early 70s pic of Kerwin Mathews being interviewed-and the interviewer is Mark Hamill!
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 1, 2018 12:32:44 GMT
He's apologizing for voicing his doubts about RJ's ability to write and direct TLJ. That's...blatantly what he said. That's just blatantly what you hallucinated him saying. It's all part of your reality-free delusional architecture.
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 1, 2018 12:39:46 GMT
Only a complete idiot such as yourself would try to insist that's not evidence. All it is evidence for is that Mark Hamill, like you idiot losers, has no grasp of how to write a complex character and disagreed with Rian Johnson about the direction the character was taking. It is not evidence that he thought Johnson was incompetent or a hack or that The Last Jedi was a bad movie. Only a complete moron thinks otherwise.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 1, 2018 14:32:05 GMT
Only a complete idiot such as yourself would try to insist that's not evidence. All it is evidence for is that Mark Hamill, like you idiot losers, has no grasp of how to write a complex character and disagreed with Rian Johnson about the direction the character was taking. It is not evidence that he thought Johnson was incompetent or a hack or that The Last Jedi was a bad movie. Only a complete moron thinks otherwise. No, what it is is proof that Hamill's criticism was right. And fan approval ratings that hover in 50 something percent prove Hamill was right. The most backlash for a SW film since the prequels, perhaps ever, proves he was right. Only a brainless shill like you would think otherwise. The kind of brainless lemmings that comprise many modern critics that this guy talks about in the video below. You are obviously one of the brainless morons he talks about who have been taught to be nothing more than a PC studio shill. Like I said before, shill - go screw yourself. Your opinion on the subject is worth a bantha turd. Nobody agrees with your lemming shill nonsense! Get a clue and go screw yourself and bug off!
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 1, 2018 15:00:16 GMT
No, what it is is proof that Hamill's criticism was right. Hamill's saying something means he is automatically right? Really? You are actually that stupid?
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 1, 2018 15:15:23 GMT
No, what it is is proof that Hamill's criticism was right. Hamill's saying something means he is automatically right? Really? You are actually that stupid? I'm smart enough to know that that Hamill knows more about SW and the actual character that he's played than some fool like you who thinks he knows more about it than anyone else. And is too stupid to see how wrong he is when people have already shown him over and over again. You gotta be the dumbest person I've ever met on a forum! Yep, no doubt about it. Please, keep showing me how stupid you are for the dozenth time! LOL!
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 1, 2018 15:37:14 GMT
I'm smart enough to know that that Hamill knows more about SW and the actual character that he's played than some fool like you who thinks he knows more about it than anyone else. Cupcake, I've probably forgotten more about the universe of Star Wars than an illiterate moron like you ever bothered to learn. And Hamill knows less about Luke than most fans of the character--this is just a fact, as he has repeatedly expressed complete ignorance about Star Wars lore in interviews. What Hamill and idiots like you definitely know nothing about is good writing and good character development. Johnson took Luke in a new direction. You're butthurt over it, I get it. You wanted a simplistic, cartoon character. What you got was something more for adults, something more human and complicated. It's official, its part of canon, and there is absolutely nothing you can do but whine pathetically on an internet forum.
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