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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 1:31:01 GMT
to stop people from turning gay: www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/12/24/egypt-launches-bid-to-ban-atheism-over-fears-it-turns-people-gay/Current Affairs Egypt launches bid to ban atheism over fears it turns people gay Meka Beresford 24th December 2017, 5:10 PM Egypt has announced a bid to ban atheism in the hopes that it will stop people from “turning” gay.The parliamentary commission on religion has said that plans to make “promotion of atheism” illegal will be pushed. It comes as the commission ruled that atheism can cause “mental imbalances” which in turn leads to homosexuality. The bid is one of a number of moves being carried out by Egyptian authorities in a crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community. The country has seen 34 people arrested and imprisoned for offences linked to homosexuality, including debauchery, inciting sexual deviancy and joining an outlawed group. Related: No-one is talking about Egypt’s shocking homophobic purge It is believed that the commission hopes that by pushing through the law it will support the bid of another law which has been deemed the most homophobic law in the world. The second law which is currently being pushed through targets the community by punishing gay sex in a public or private place with a prison sentence ranging from one to three years. The measure was introduced by MP Riyad Abdel Sattar, a politician leading the rhetoric that those who identify within the LGBTQ+ realm have a “disease”. As well as criminalising gay sex it also puts journalists and activists at risk of covering LGBTQ+ events as it threatens conviction. Related: Four people have just been imprisoned for homosexuality in Egypt It is so extreme that even someone in possession of a rainbow flag could be imprisoned under the law. The bill states: “Individuals that incite same-sex relations, either by inciting, facilitating, hosting, or calling for, even if they don’t perform the act itself, will be punished to prison…as well as shutting down the venue. “It is strictly prohibited to carry any symbol or sign of the homosexual community, as well as it’s prohibited to produce, sell, market, or promote such products. “Violators will be sentenced to prison for a period no less than one year and no more than three years.” The crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community in Egypt has been condemned worldwide. Human Rights Watch worker Sarah Leah Whitson said: “Repression will not turn gay people straight. It will only perpetuate fear and abuse.” Egypt’s authorities are deliberately fuelling a homophobic ‘moral panic’ in order to build support for a homophobic crackdown, a report has alleged. There has recently been a dramatic surge in arrests of gay people in Egypt, fuelled in part by the country’s media. Sources on the ground have repeatedly raised the alarm about Egypt’s so-called ‘Public Morality Investigation Unit’, which actively targets the gay community with raids and entrapment. The situation worsened in September this year, when the waving of a rainbow flag at a music concert was extensively derided in the press – leading to a dramatic crackdown. A report released by the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights charts the horrific extent of the crisis. It said: “The EIPR has observed an exponential increase in the number of individuals arrested because of their private sexual practices and/or sexual orientation. “In what is now known as the as the Public Morality Investigation Unit’s campaign against LGBTQ individuals and men who have sex with men or those perceived as such.”
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Post by Catman on Dec 27, 2017 1:42:23 GMT
Uh oh.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 10:21:46 GMT
Stupid law by stupid believers in a stupid religion.
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Post by dividavi on Dec 27, 2017 11:12:31 GMT
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Post by tickingmask on Dec 27, 2017 11:52:50 GMT
No reputable news source is reporting that Egypt has announced anything of the sort. This has 'fake news' written all over it. How gullible you all are!
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Post by Isapop on Dec 27, 2017 13:30:05 GMT
Some reported pushback: "Former culture minister Gaber Asfour said the proposal was unconstitutional, as the Egyptian constitution guarantees the freedom of belief for every citizen." thelenspost.com/en/egypt-considers-banning-atheism-to-stop-people-becoming-gay/
By the way, there's a higher percentage of atheists among gay people than among straight people. That's not surprising, but if there's any causality I'm sure it's that being gay encourages atheism rather than the other way round.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 27, 2017 13:50:24 GMT
If people could be 'turned gay' it would have happened to me watching John Waters movies.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Dec 27, 2017 16:33:17 GMT
to stop people from turning gay: www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/12/24/egypt-launches-bid-to-ban-atheism-over-fears-it-turns-people-gay/Current Affairs Egypt launches bid to ban atheism over fears it turns people gay Meka Beresford 24th December 2017, 5:10 PM Egypt has announced a bid to ban atheism in the hopes that it will stop people from “turning” gay.The parliamentary commission on religion has said that plans to make “promotion of atheism” illegal will be pushed. It comes as the commission ruled that atheism can cause “mental imbalances” which in turn leads to homosexuality. The bid is one of a number of moves being carried out by Egyptian authorities in a crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community. The country has seen 34 people arrested and imprisoned for offences linked to homosexuality, including debauchery, inciting sexual deviancy and joining an outlawed group. Related: No-one is talking about Egypt’s shocking homophobic purge It is believed that the commission hopes that by pushing through the law it will support the bid of another law which has been deemed the most homophobic law in the world. The second law which is currently being pushed through targets the community by punishing gay sex in a public or private place with a prison sentence ranging from one to three years. The measure was introduced by MP Riyad Abdel Sattar, a politician leading the rhetoric that those who identify within the LGBTQ+ realm have a “disease”. As well as criminalising gay sex it also puts journalists and activists at risk of covering LGBTQ+ events as it threatens conviction. Related: Four people have just been imprisoned for homosexuality in Egypt It is so extreme that even someone in possession of a rainbow flag could be imprisoned under the law. The bill states: “Individuals that incite same-sex relations, either by inciting, facilitating, hosting, or calling for, even if they don’t perform the act itself, will be punished to prison…as well as shutting down the venue. “It is strictly prohibited to carry any symbol or sign of the homosexual community, as well as it’s prohibited to produce, sell, market, or promote such products. “Violators will be sentenced to prison for a period no less than one year and no more than three years.” The crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community in Egypt has been condemned worldwide. Human Rights Watch worker Sarah Leah Whitson said: “Repression will not turn gay people straight. It will only perpetuate fear and abuse.”Egypt’s authorities are deliberately fuelling a homophobic ‘moral panic’ in order to build support for a homophobic crackdown, a report has alleged. There has recently been a dramatic surge in arrests of gay people in Egypt, fuelled in part by the country’s media. Sources on the ground have repeatedly raised the alarm about Egypt’s so-called ‘Public Morality Investigation Unit’, which actively targets the gay community with raids and entrapment. The situation worsened in September this year, when the waving of a rainbow flag at a music concert was extensively derided in the press – leading to a dramatic crackdown. A report released by the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights charts the horrific extent of the crisis. It said: “The EIPR has observed an exponential increase in the number of individuals arrested because of their private sexual practices and/or sexual orientation. “In what is now known as the as the Public Morality Investigation Unit’s campaign against LGBTQ individuals and men who have sex with men or those perceived as such.” Once again, religious people trying to force others to accept their worldview; punishment for not accepting - physical harm. Humans just can't seem to evolve beyond tribalism. My final thought for the day: f*cking COEXIST, people. Live and let live. Believe (or not) and let believe (or not).
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Post by cupcakes on Dec 27, 2017 16:49:16 GMT
tpfkar Thought over there you were only gay if you played catcher. I'm not gay...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 20:10:53 GMT
No reputable news source is reporting that Egypt has announced anything of the sort. This has 'fake news' written all over it. How gullible you all are! I was surprised when I read the article (found it on Reddit), but only because I assumed that atheism was already illegal in Egypt, based on things that I'd previously read. I also saw another post on Reddit from an Egyptian atheist who was concerned by plans to make atheism illegal and was considering his options for fleeing the country, and I doubt that he was reading Pink News.
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Post by Vegas on Dec 27, 2017 20:15:14 GMT
If people could be 'turned gay' it would have happened to me watching John Waters movies. But... That was the excuse that I was using!!
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Post by sublime92 on Dec 27, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
Islam = regression
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Post by tickingmask on Dec 27, 2017 23:17:52 GMT
I also saw another post on Reddit from an Egyptian atheist who was concerned by plans to make atheism illegal and was considering his options for fleeing the country, and I doubt that he was reading Pink News. I doubt he was an Egyptian atheist either. More likely he was some Macedonian teenager getting paid some paltry commission for churning out fake news stories for gullible fools who get their news from Reddit and spread it around without even bothering to check whether any reputable news source is touching it.
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Post by dividavi on Dec 27, 2017 23:51:03 GMT
No reputable news source is reporting that Egypt has announced anything of the sort. This has 'fake news' written all over it. How gullible you all are! It looks fairly well documented to me. The Pink News article for the OP is linked to another article for October 7 which is based on a Human Rights Watch report. www.hrw.org/news/2017/10/06/unofficial-translation-statement-egypts-supreme-council-media-regulationFor full translation click on link. Now it appears that atheism is somehow linked to homosexuality and the one causes the other. At least that's what influential people in Egypt are saying. It's certainly consistent with the HRW translation of the Supreme Council for Media Regulation. Egypt is a gangster state ruled by a military tyrant. He's probably better than the preceding Muslim Brotherhood government but not by much, if at all. It's not fake news.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 2:56:03 GMT
I also saw another post on Reddit from an Egyptian atheist who was concerned by plans to make atheism illegal and was considering his options for fleeing the country, and I doubt that he was reading Pink News. I doubt he was an Egyptian atheist either. More likely he was some Macedonian teenager getting paid some paltry commission for churning out fake news stories for gullible fools who get their news from Reddit and spread it around without even bothering to check whether any reputable news source is touching it. The guy claiming to be an Egyptian atheist was separate from the news story. Atheists are already very oppressed over in Egypt, which is why it surprised me that it wasn't already illegal: www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/opinion/mona-eltahawy-egypts-war-on-atheism.htmlThis article shows that although atheism isn't technically illegal, you are liable to go to jail for publicly expressing atheist opinions.
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 28, 2017 14:41:13 GMT
The fact that Bradley Cooper and Channing Tatum have never turned any straight man gay, and Halle Berry and Scarlett Johansson have never turned any straight women into lesbians is proof that people cannot “turn” gay or straight. No matter what philosophy or religion you introduce them to, that’s not going to change their sexual orientation anymore than giving them a new wardrobe is going to change their favorite flavor of ice cream. One thing has nothing to do with the other and it is completely unscientific (and therefore unreasonable) to behave as though there is some moral connection between the two things. It’s just ignorance, plain and simple.
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Post by goz on Dec 28, 2017 21:47:58 GMT
How do they tell if you are an atheist?
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Post by politicidal on Dec 29, 2017 0:54:50 GMT
This sounds like something done by The Onion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 6:54:29 GMT
How do they tell if you are an atheist? Well they can't - yet - as long as you don't tell anyone. Atheism is already a de facto crime, because any public proclamation of atheism is prosecuted under blasphemy laws.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 6:55:58 GMT
to stop people from turning gay: www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/12/24/egypt-launches-bid-to-ban-atheism-over-fears-it-turns-people-gay/Current Affairs Egypt launches bid to ban atheism over fears it turns people gay Meka Beresford 24th December 2017, 5:10 PM Egypt has announced a bid to ban atheism in the hopes that it will stop people from “turning” gay.The parliamentary commission on religion has said that plans to make “promotion of atheism” illegal will be pushed. It comes as the commission ruled that atheism can cause “mental imbalances” which in turn leads to homosexuality. The bid is one of a number of moves being carried out by Egyptian authorities in a crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community. The country has seen 34 people arrested and imprisoned for offences linked to homosexuality, including debauchery, inciting sexual deviancy and joining an outlawed group. Related: No-one is talking about Egypt’s shocking homophobic purge It is believed that the commission hopes that by pushing through the law it will support the bid of another law which has been deemed the most homophobic law in the world. The second law which is currently being pushed through targets the community by punishing gay sex in a public or private place with a prison sentence ranging from one to three years. The measure was introduced by MP Riyad Abdel Sattar, a politician leading the rhetoric that those who identify within the LGBTQ+ realm have a “disease”. As well as criminalising gay sex it also puts journalists and activists at risk of covering LGBTQ+ events as it threatens conviction. Related: Four people have just been imprisoned for homosexuality in Egypt It is so extreme that even someone in possession of a rainbow flag could be imprisoned under the law. The bill states: “Individuals that incite same-sex relations, either by inciting, facilitating, hosting, or calling for, even if they don’t perform the act itself, will be punished to prison…as well as shutting down the venue. “It is strictly prohibited to carry any symbol or sign of the homosexual community, as well as it’s prohibited to produce, sell, market, or promote such products. “Violators will be sentenced to prison for a period no less than one year and no more than three years.” The crackdown on the LGBTQ+ community in Egypt has been condemned worldwide. Human Rights Watch worker Sarah Leah Whitson said: “Repression will not turn gay people straight. It will only perpetuate fear and abuse.”Egypt’s authorities are deliberately fuelling a homophobic ‘moral panic’ in order to build support for a homophobic crackdown, a report has alleged. There has recently been a dramatic surge in arrests of gay people in Egypt, fuelled in part by the country’s media. Sources on the ground have repeatedly raised the alarm about Egypt’s so-called ‘Public Morality Investigation Unit’, which actively targets the gay community with raids and entrapment. The situation worsened in September this year, when the waving of a rainbow flag at a music concert was extensively derided in the press – leading to a dramatic crackdown. A report released by the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights charts the horrific extent of the crisis. It said: “The EIPR has observed an exponential increase in the number of individuals arrested because of their private sexual practices and/or sexual orientation. “In what is now known as the as the Public Morality Investigation Unit’s campaign against LGBTQ individuals and men who have sex with men or those perceived as such.” Once again, religious people trying to force others to accept their worldview; punishment for not accepting - physical harm. Humans just can't seem to evolve beyond tribalism. My final thought for the day: f*cking COEXIST, people. Live and let live. Believe (or not) and let believe (or not). It's because the religious fear losing their own religion of others are allowed to freely express their doubts. It's based on fear and nothing else. Religion is getting to the stage where it is like a cornered wild animal.
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