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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 14:20:34 GMT
How can a movie that's broken a BILLION dollars world wide possibly be considered disappointing? Because it could have made more? Of course a movie can always make more! So what? Its a BILLION fucking dollars!!!
I'm sure you have a favorite movie that didn't make a billion dollars; Or 600 mill domestic. Its still one of your favorite movies, no?
Jesus, how much is enough? It will never be enough for these guys. Even if it made the 1.5 they still would say, it's slipping, bla bla bla. Haters will hate. I think 1.3ish is enough to satisfy most and assure the continuation of new stuff coming out. But i think Lucasfilm should give it a rest after IX for a couple of years though. At least the main "Skywalker" Saga. there are almost no skywalkers left anyway. (Or Ben and Rey have a child together in the end) Just because it makes money doesn't make it good. It's a dumpster fire.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 14:23:29 GMT
It will never be enough for these guys. Even if it made the 1.5 they still would say, it's slipping, bla bla bla. Haters will hate. I think 1.3ish is enough to satisfy most and assure the continuation of new stuff coming out. But i think Lucasfilm should give it a rest after IX for a couple of years though. At least the main "Skywalker" Saga. there are almost no skywalkers left anyway. (Or Ben and Rey have a child together in the end) Just because it makes money doesn't make it good. It's a dumpster fire. that's my point but in reverse. Just because it doesn't make money doesn't mean it's bad or SW dead. It works both ways.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 17:21:58 GMT
Just because it makes money doesn't make it good. It's a dumpster fire. that's my point but in reverse. Just because it doesn't make money doesn't mean it's bad or SW dead. It works both ways. ...but it did make money? I hope Disney sees they're sacrificing profits for the sake of creative story, and so do the others that are excited about the loss of potential profit. I doubt they'll change direction though. The next one is sure to be just as hollow and just as feminist agenda/political opinion filled for the sake of plot.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 17:30:06 GMT
that's my point but in reverse. Just because it doesn't make money doesn't mean it's bad or SW dead. It works both ways. ...but it did make money? I hope Disney sees they're sacrificing profits for the sake of creative story, and so do the others that are excited about the loss of potential profit. I doubt they'll change direction though. The next one is sure to be just as hollow and just as feminist agenda/political opinion filled for the sake of plot. If it is as good as TLJ i hope you are right. Even if it makes less 700 than Episode VIII. Than they can change the tune. Just finish this trilogy first. If they in the next trilogy ignore some aspects of this one it wouldn't be the first time a trilogy contradicts or "forgets stuff" from the previous. And that's ok.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 17:48:02 GMT
...but it did make money? I hope Disney sees they're sacrificing profits for the sake of creative story, and so do the others that are excited about the loss of potential profit. I doubt they'll change direction though. The next one is sure to be just as hollow and just as feminist agenda/political opinion filled for the sake of plot. If it is as good as TLJ i hope you are right. Even if it makes less 700 than Episode VIII. Than they can change the tune. Just finish this trilogy first. If they in the next trilogy ignore some aspects of this one it wouldn't be the first time a trilogy contradicts or "forgets stuff" from the previous. And that's ok. It's ok, to you. To others, it's not.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 17:48:21 GMT
that's my point but in reverse. Just because it doesn't make money doesn't mean it's bad or SW dead. It works both ways. ...but it did make money? I hope Disney sees they're sacrificing profits for the sake of creative story, and so do the others that are excited about the loss of potential profit. I doubt they'll change direction though. The next one is sure to be just as hollow and just as feminist agenda/political opinion filled for the sake of plot. Lucas sacrificed billions of dollars for his vision of the PT. Did he do the right thing? It led to him selling to Disney so I don't know. I love the Prequels and that's what matters, even if they were Box Office failures.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 17, 2018 17:50:08 GMT
There's never been a Star Wars movie that was a box office failure.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 17:52:01 GMT
...but it did make money? I hope Disney sees they're sacrificing profits for the sake of creative story, and so do the others that are excited about the loss of potential profit. I doubt they'll change direction though. The next one is sure to be just as hollow and just as feminist agenda/political opinion filled for the sake of plot. Lucas sacrificed billions of dollars for his vision of the PT. Did he do the right thing? It led to him selling to Disney so I don't know. I love the Prequels and that's what matters, even if they were Box Office failures. His story was told. He was also fed up with people expecting him to sacrifice HIS story for their expectations. He told his story, and it had consistent tone and 'feel'. This new junk is jarringly different in tone and direction. He can do whatever he wants, it was his story. You can like it or dislike it, but whatever he does/did is his choice.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 17:53:17 GMT
If it is as good as TLJ i hope you are right. Even if it makes less 700 than Episode VIII. Than they can change the tune. Just finish this trilogy first. If they in the next trilogy ignore some aspects of this one it wouldn't be the first time a trilogy contradicts or "forgets stuff" from the previous. And that's ok. It's ok, to you. To others, it's not. That's right. To others is not. What do you do when you don't like something? you stop giving it money. I haven't liked a Terminator movie since T2 even though the first two are amognst my favorite of all time. Do you think I whined like a bitch when 3 4 5 were shit? Nope i kept enjoying 1 and 2 like I always did and let others enjoy what they want. It's just not for me, but I don't bitch about it. (i guess i'm bitching a little now lol)
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 17:55:00 GMT
There's never been a Star Wars movie that was a box office failure. You know what i mean, but ep 2 and 3 did the least ammount of money of any of the saga (except maybe R1)
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 17:56:35 GMT
Lucas sacrificed billions of dollars for his vision of the PT. Did he do the right thing? It led to him selling to Disney so I don't know. I love the Prequels and that's what matters, even if they were Box Office failures. His story was told. He was also fed up with people expecting him to sacrifice HIS story for their expectations. He told his story, and it had consistent tone and 'feel'. This new junk is jarringly different in tone and direction. He can do whatever he wants, it was his story. You can like it or dislike it, but whatever he does/did is his choice. Sure! I think TLJ is RIan's story and it deserves the same respect. Lucas sold out. It's not his story anymore it's the new directors story. Just like the EU books were the authors stories. (that Lucas ignored by the way)
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 18:00:40 GMT
His story was told. He was also fed up with people expecting him to sacrifice HIS story for their expectations. He told his story, and it had consistent tone and 'feel'. This new junk is jarringly different in tone and direction. He can do whatever he wants, it was his story. You can like it or dislike it, but whatever he does/did is his choice. Sure! I think TLJ is RIan's story and it deserves the same respect. At the expense of the source material. Maybe Disney should have started a "Fan Film" trilogy...because that's essentially what we've gotten.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 18:04:30 GMT
Sure! I think TLJ is RIan's story and it deserves the same respect. At the expense of the source material. Maybe Disney should have started a "Fan Film" trilogy...because that's essentially what we've gotten. That's what we got with the EU, at least now it's in movie format.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 18:11:16 GMT
The EU, the ST, it's fan fiction. They might own the rights, but the creative mind behind the story is gone, so the story, is over. It's technically been over. Now it's different.
some good quotes from RT reviews:
and it goes on..and on..
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 18:16:27 GMT
The EU, the ST, it's fan fiction. They might own the rights, but the creative mind behind the story is gone, so the story, is over. It's technically been over. Now it's different. some good quotes from RT reviews: and it goes on..and on.. So? Do you let others influence your opinion? I Guess you do... Probably one of those zero rating guys huh?
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 18:22:57 GMT
The EU, the ST, it's fan fiction. They might own the rights, but the creative mind behind the story is gone, so the story, is over. It's technically been over. Now it's different. some good quotes from RT reviews: and it goes on..and on.. So? Do you let others influence your opinion? I Guess you do... Probably one of those zero rating guys huh? I read that the reason the score isn't dropping more is that 1/2 and 0 ratings might not be counted, so I rated 1. Yes, it's not that was share the same opinion, it's that others influence me. GOOD TROLL.
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 18:30:11 GMT
So? Do you let others influence your opinion? I Guess you do... Probably one of those zero rating guys huh? I read that the reason the score isn't dropping more is that 1/2 and 0 ratings might not be counted, so I rated 1. Yes, it's not that was share the same opinion, it's that others influence me. GOOD TROLL. Why do you keep quoting bad reviews when you know there are thousands of good ones also? Are we going to be here all day fighting quotations? You want another one? Quoting bad reviews is the lamest thing someone can do...
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Post by mcufan on Jan 17, 2018 18:38:22 GMT
So? Do you let others influence your opinion? I Guess you do... Probably one of those zero rating guys huh? I read that the reason the score isn't dropping more is that 1/2 and 0 ratings might not be counted, so I rated 1. Yes, it's not that was share the same opinion, it's that others influence me. GOOD TROLL. LOL how gullible.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 17, 2018 18:47:50 GMT
I read that the reason the score isn't dropping more is that 1/2 and 0 ratings might not be counted, so I rated 1. Yes, it's not that was share the same opinion, it's that others influence me. GOOD TROLL. LOL how gullible.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Jan 17, 2018 18:57:36 GMT
Any movie that grosses over $1 billion cannot be a disappointment in my mind (although I might make an exception for Infinity War when that releases). Solo, though, has the potential to be a real flop. People obviously aren't as interested in Star Wars anymore and its production has been riddled with conflict. We don't even have a trailer yet either. Thing is, even Disney/Lucasfilm want Solo to bomb
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