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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 10, 2018 18:44:03 GMT
It’s as the title says. Have these films done a good job with representation overall? For the record, I’m not saying you have to care about diversity in movies, this is simply a question of whether or not these films have done a good job in this department.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 19:54:10 GMT
They've only tried once, with Suicide Squad, and even then they fell back on some truly insulting cliches (Katana).
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 10, 2018 19:57:19 GMT
They've only tried once, with Suicide Squad, and even then they fell back on some truly insulting cliches (Katana). And Katana was more under utilized than Psylocke in Apocalypse. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 20:02:06 GMT
They've only tried once, with Suicide Squad, and even then they fell back on some truly insulting cliches (Katana). And Katana was more under utilized than Psylocke in Apocalypse. When the MCU had Asian characters (Hogun in Thor, Helen Cho in Age of Ultron) they at least had stuff like make her a world renowned scientist who just happened to be Korean and had Hogun be a well respected and honored warrior in a civilization full of White People. No one cared about his racial appearance. |
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Post by politicidal on Feb 10, 2018 20:15:34 GMT
It's been spotty. As mentioned, Suicide Squad was perhaps their best at that. Justice League being the runner up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 20:37:39 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 10, 2018 20:47:48 GMT
They've only tried once, with Suicide Squad, and even then they fell back on some truly insulting cliches (Katana). Katana is like that in the comics. Also, what about the Amazons, Sameer and Chief, or the fact that Aquaman is played by a Polynesian actor? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 10, 2018 22:39:11 GMT
I'd say yes. There's plenty of diversity, and it feels pretty organic. Casting someone with an accent for Wonder Woman was actually really smart. I also thought casting a Pacifier Islander for Aquaman made sense, though other Atlantians look like Amber Heard and Willem Dafoe, so I don't know. Deadshot as played by Will Smith turned out really entertaining. Etc.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 22:48:07 GMT
They've only tried once, with Suicide Squad, and even then they fell back on some truly insulting cliches (Katana). Katana is like that in the comics. Also, what about the Amazons, Sameer and Chief, or the fact that Aquaman is played by a Polynesian actor? They couldn't be bothered to even have her introduce herself? They needed Flagg to say everything for her? If you're going to bring up Sameer and Chief, then why not bring up Peggy and Morita from First Avenger? Aquaman, I'll give you. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 10, 2018 23:36:12 GMT
Katana is like that in the comics. Also, what about the Amazons, Sameer and Chief, or the fact that Aquaman is played by a Polynesian actor? They couldn't be bothered to even have her introduce herself? They needed Flagg to say everything for her? If you're going to bring up Sameer and Chief, then why not bring up Peggy and Morita from First Avenger? Aquaman, I'll give you. Isn’t Peggy white? Anyway, this isn’t about the MCU. I never brought it up. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 23:45:59 GMT
They couldn't be bothered to even have her introduce herself? They needed Flagg to say everything for her? If you're going to bring up Sameer and Chief, then why not bring up Peggy and Morita from First Avenger? Aquaman, I'll give you. Isn’t Peggy white? Anyway, this isn’t about the MCU. I never brought it up. Well, to date we have Aquaman, Sameer and Chief. But Sameer and Chief don't really do very much but they're there at least. Suicide Squad was pretty insulting in its usage of Katana and making Deadshot so self-obsessed that his deepest desire was to kill Batman instead of being with his daughter. And none of the Amazons of note were anything but white. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 11, 2018 0:00:06 GMT
They couldn't be bothered to even have her introduce herself? They needed Flagg to say everything for her? If you're going to bring up Sameer and Chief, then why not bring up Peggy and Morita from First Avenger? Aquaman, I'll give you. Isn’t Peggy white? Yes, Peggy Carter is Caucasian. Don't know why formersamhmd would try to use a Caucasian actress to prove a point about diversity. Then again, formersamhmd si so delusional that he still claims that Heath Ledger won the Oscar only because he died and still claims that Wonder Woman is the #1-ranked superhero movie of all time because of "artificial boosters". |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 11, 2018 0:02:04 GMT
none of the Amazons of note were anything but white.  |
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Post by sostie on Feb 11, 2018 0:02:16 GMT
Yes, Peggy Carter is Caucasian. Don't know why formersamhmd would try to use a Caucasian actress to prove a point about diversity. Then again, formersamhmd si so delusional that he still claims that Heath Ledger won the Oscar only because he died and still claims that Wonder Woman is the #1-ranked superhero movie of all time because of "artificial boosters". You said Wonder Woman was an Oscar Nomination certainty...we can't all be right eh. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:05:10 GMT
none of the Amazons of note were anything but white. Does she actually SAY anything, or is she just window dressing? |
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Post by sostie on Feb 11, 2018 0:06:53 GMT
Not diverse enough according to the racoon community
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Post by sostie on Feb 11, 2018 0:10:25 GMT
Deadshot as played by Will Smith turned out really entertaining. Etc. A character that was originally white. Personally I thought he was a great bit of casting...but was DC being diverse for diversity sake or just picking the biggest Box Office star they could get for the role |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 11, 2018 0:10:45 GMT
Yeah they've done a good job so far.
Still want to see a LGBT character.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 11, 2018 0:13:03 GMT
Then again, formersamhmd si so delusional that he still claims that Heath Ledger won the Oscar only because he died and still claims that Wonder Woman is the #1-ranked superhero movie of all time because of "artificial boosters". and you’re so delusional you were sure Wonder Woman would get nominated for an Oscar. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:18:21 GMT
Yes, Peggy Carter is Caucasian. Don't know why formersamhmd would try to use a Caucasian actress to prove a point about diversity. Female diversity. And a far better portrayal of a love interest character in a CBM compared to DC's female love interests too. The best they had to offer was a nutbag like Donner's Lois. He did. She lost to Ragnarok, and she'll double lose to BP. |
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