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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 22:53:06 GMT
Everyone is a heretic to at least one other person in the world, it is basically just a way of saying you disagree with someone. I bet dollars to doughnuts you are a Sardine Heretic, hell you probably don't even know what Vogels is. Do you believe Jesus is the only path to salvation, Gadreel?
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Post by gadreel on Feb 21, 2018 22:55:28 GMT
Everyone is a heretic to at least one other person in the world, it is basically just a way of saying you disagree with someone. I bet dollars to doughnuts you are a Sardine Heretic, hell you probably don't even know what Vogels is. Do you believe Jesus is the only path to salvation, Gadreel? Do you understand that it does not matter? You are a heretic in the eyes of the Catholic church, heretic is just another way of saying you disagree with someone, but also adding in the arrogance of thinking only you can be right. You know my stance, and if I respected you I might provide some arguments to support it.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 21, 2018 22:56:44 GMT
Everyone is a heretic to at least one other person in the world, it is basically just a way of saying you disagree with someone. I bet dollars to doughnuts you are a Sardine Heretic, hell you probably don't even know what Vogels is. Gadreel gets an agreement post. Responds with a criticism. <shakes head> I am not criticsing, I am agreeing with you and sharing a joke. I realise we dont agree on everything, but try not to be paranoid about my intentions.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 23:13:24 GMT
Do you believe Jesus is the only path to salvation, Gadreel? Do you understand that it does not matter? You are a heretic in the eyes of the Catholic church, heretic is just another way of saying you disagree with someone, but also adding in the arrogance of thinking only you can be right. You know my stance, and if I respected you I might provide some arguments to support it. Why can't you answer the question, Gadreel?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 21, 2018 23:19:37 GMT
Everyone is a heretic to at least one other person in the world, it is basically just a way of saying you disagree with someone. I bet dollars to doughnuts you are a Sardine Heretic, hell you probably don't even know what Vogels is. Do you believe Jesus is the only path to salvation, Gadreel? If someone receives the grace of God through Jesus and they are unrighteous at the time by virtue of ignorance, are you saying they don't have a path to salvation after being given the chance to know Jesus? Are you saying that you have the ability to judge people right now?
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Post by clusium on Feb 21, 2018 23:25:04 GMT
Yes he was. The Papacy is traced all the way back to him. LOL Laugh all you like. It's the truth!!!
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 22, 2018 0:14:30 GMT
Laugh all you like. It's the truth!!! You seem like a sweet girl, Clusium, and I know you've pretty much been indoctrinated to believe that Peter got the whole papacy thing rolling. Unfortunately for you it isn't something that can be supported scripturally.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 22, 2018 0:26:51 GMT
Do you understand that it does not matter? You are a heretic in the eyes of the Catholic church, heretic is just another way of saying you disagree with someone, but also adding in the arrogance of thinking only you can be right. You know my stance, and if I respected you I might provide some arguments to support it. Why can't you answer the question, Gadreel? Your comprehension needs upping sweetpea.
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Post by clusium on Feb 22, 2018 0:29:37 GMT
Laugh all you like. It's the truth!!! You seem like a sweet girl, Clusium, and I know you've pretty much been indoctrinated to believe that Peter got the whole papacy thing rolling. Unfortunately for you it isn't something that can be supported scripturally. Yes it can. St. Matthew chapter 16, verse 19. Acts chapter 1, verse 15. Acts chapter 2, verse 14.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 22, 2018 0:31:01 GMT
Why can't you answer the question, Gadreel? Your comprehension needs upping sweetpea. I comprehended your evasion just fine. But I'm not willing to let you weasel your way out so easily. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Let me rephrase the question. Is salvation attained through Christ alone?
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 22, 2018 0:49:57 GMT
You seem like a sweet girl, Clusium, and I know you've pretty much been indoctrinated to believe that Peter got the whole papacy thing rolling. Unfortunately for you it isn't something that can be supported scripturally. Yes it can. St. Matthew chapter 16, verse 19. Acts chapter 1, verse 15. Acts chapter 2, verse 14. Firstly when Christ said "upon this Rock" he was referring to himself, not Peter. This is confirmed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:4. Also Matthew 16:19 doesnt teach anywhere that Peter was given authority over the other apostles or the church.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 22, 2018 1:05:10 GMT
Your comprehension needs upping sweetpea. I comprehended your evasion just fine. But I'm not willing to let you weasel your way out so easily. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Let me rephrase the question. Is salvation attained through Christ alone? No you clearly did not, you already know my stance and I do not respect you enough to waste my time with your petty attempts at painting me as a heretic in you small minded view. Go spout your holier than thou nonsense to someone else.
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Post by clusium on Feb 22, 2018 1:05:33 GMT
Yes it can. St. Matthew chapter 16, verse 19. Acts chapter 1, verse 15. Acts chapter 2, verse 14. Firstly when Christ said "upon this Rock" he was referring to himself, not Peter. This is confirmed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:4. Also Matthew 16:19 doesnt teach anywhere that Peter was given authority over the other apostles or the church. No, Our Lord was Referring to Peter. The name 'Peter' means 'Rock.' Before Christ Renamed him, Peter's name was Simon Bar Jonah.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 1:14:35 GMT
Yes it can. St. Matthew chapter 16, verse 19. Acts chapter 1, verse 15. Acts chapter 2, verse 14. Firstly when Christ said "upon this Rock" he was referring to himself, not Peter. This is confirmed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:4. Also Matthew 16:19 doesnt teach anywhere that Peter was given authority over the other apostles or the church. This. And even if we grant that he may have been referring to Peter, it's still a MASSIVE leap to say that Peter had actual AUTHORITY over the other Apostles. It would just mean that Peter is going to be one of the leaders (maybe even the most important leader) in building the Church. But that doesn't mean he has any sort of "official authority" over the others. Peter, like all the other Apostles, was fallible. And Paul even had to call him out on some of his bone-headed mistakes.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 22, 2018 11:55:30 GMT
No you clearly did not, you already know my stance and I do not respect you enough to waste my time with your petty attempts at painting me as a heretic in you small minded view. Go spout your holier than thou nonsense to someone else. You can't answer the question because you know I have you cornered. If you say Christ isn't the only way, then I will point out explicit verses which totally contradict your stance proving my case that you're a certified heretic. If you say he is the only way then you'd be contradicting what you originally claimed on other threads, showing you to be dishonest. Which way you wanna go, Gadreel?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 22, 2018 12:00:34 GMT
You can't answer the question because you know I have you cornered. If you say Christ isn't the only way, then I will point out explicit verses which totally contradict your stance proving my case that you're a certified heretic. If you say he is the only way then you'd be contradicting what you originally claimed on other threads, showing you to be dishonest. Which way you wanna go, Gadreel? I know what it feels like to corner someone with a question they don't want to answer...
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Post by THawk on Feb 22, 2018 13:29:56 GMT
You can't answer the question because you know I have you cornered. If you say Christ isn't the only way, then I will point out explicit verses which totally contradict your stance proving my case that you're a certified heretic. If you say he is the only way then you'd be contradicting what you originally claimed on other threads, showing you to be dishonest. Which way you wanna go, Gadreel? What you do not possess, and what Billy Graham was trying to offer in his quote that you hate so much, is nuance. Christian theology on who is or who is not saved as deeply complex and no one has the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Franklin Graham and other hell-preachers try to simplify it but then expose themselves to endless logistical and moral pitholes, though unfortunately too much of mainstream Christianity has sided with them.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 22, 2018 15:08:23 GMT
The list of people who aren't heretics in this thread:
Cody
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 22, 2018 15:17:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 17:07:08 GMT
Yes it can. St. Matthew chapter 16, verse 19. Acts chapter 1, verse 15. Acts chapter 2, verse 14. Firstly when Christ said "upon this Rock" he was referring to himself, not Peter. This is confirmed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:4. Also Matthew 16:19 doesnt teach anywhere that Peter was given authority over the other apostles or the church.No, it doesn't. It does the opposite in fact when Paul rebukes Peter in Galatians.
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