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Post by Vegas on Feb 21, 2018 13:41:10 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch....
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Post by Isapop on Feb 21, 2018 13:50:18 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Is that to be carved on his gravestone?
I wonder what other televangelists (and their followers) would have made of Graham's assertion that America is not, and has never been, a Christian country?
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 13:50:48 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... He certainly started sincerely and remained so for years bringing a multitude of people to Christ. But towards the later end of his crusades, his ministry sold out to the prosperity gospel and he began introducing destructive heresies which was a real shame. However I agree he wasn't the worst of the televangelists, not by a long shot. He had nothing on charlatans like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Mike Murdoch and Joyce Meyer etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 13:51:25 GMT
He seemed like a good dude. His son, on the other hand, is a little too married to neoconservative politics.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 21, 2018 14:00:39 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... He certainly started sincerely and remained so for years bringing a multitude of people to Christ. But towards the later end of his crusades, his ministry sold out to the prosperity gospel and he began introducing destructive heresies which was a real shame. However I agree he wasn't the worst of the televangelists, not by a long shot. He had nothing on charlatans like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Mike Murdoch and Joyce Meyer etc. Like what
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 14:02:17 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Is that to be carved on his gravestone?
I wonder what other televangelists (and their followers) would have made of Graham's assertion that America is not, and has never been, a Christian country?
I'm certainly not a "televangelist" (lulz), but I agree with Graham's assertion. I would argue that it's actually impossible to have a "Christian country" (in a legal rather than demographic sense).
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 14:06:35 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 21, 2018 14:07:17 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Is that to be carved on his gravestone?
I wonder what other televangelists (and their followers) would have made of Graham's assertion that America is not, and has never been, a Christian country?
It doesn't matter as long as he was right about that...& he was right about that.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 21, 2018 14:07:57 GMT
Yeah, that's a blog, but that's ok.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 21, 2018 14:14:30 GMT
I never cared very much for him, but RIP.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 14:23:10 GMT
Yeah, that's a blog, but that's ok. WTF is it with people on this board acting like petulant kids whenever someone presents them with evidence that doesn't happen to be typed up on the spur of the moment? Smithy, you asked "like what" destructive heresies? I provided it all in a detailed summarised article. If you were genuinely enquiring, how about being intellectually honest and reading what the article has to say then coming back with a response?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 21, 2018 14:31:21 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... He certainly started sincerely and remained so for years bringing a multitude of people to Christ. But towards the later end of his crusades, his ministry sold out to the prosperity gospel and he began introducing destructive heresies which was a real shame. However I agree he wasn't the worst of the televangelists, not by a long shot. He had nothing on charlatans like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Mike Murdoch and Joyce Meyer etc. No Pat Robertson?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 21, 2018 14:37:58 GMT
He certainly started sincerely and remained so for years bringing a multitude of people to Christ. But towards the later end of his crusades, his ministry sold out to the prosperity gospel and he began introducing destructive heresies which was a real shame. However I agree he wasn't the worst of the televangelists, not by a long shot. He had nothing on charlatans like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Mike Murdoch and Joyce Meyer etc. No Pat Robertson? Or Terry Smith? Jim Bakker? Jimmy Swaggart? Oral Roberts? Pat Robertson? Bob Larson? Robert Tilton? Billy James Hargis?
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 14:44:27 GMT
Or Terry Smith? Jim Bakker? Jimmy Swaggart? Oral Roberts? Pat Robertson? Bob Larson? Robert Tilton? Billy James Hargis? ^Christophobe.
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Post by clusium on Feb 21, 2018 14:47:02 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Yeah, he was pretty nice for a Baptist minister. Usually clergies from Baptist, Pentecostal, Seven Day Adventist, are very hostile towards the Catholic & Orthodox faiths, right to the point of denying that we are Christian (even though we are the original ones), but, Billie Graham saw us all as his brothers & sisters in the Christian faith. He even was very close with St. John Paul II.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 21, 2018 14:47:58 GMT
Or Terry Smith? Jim Bakker? Jimmy Swaggart? Oral Roberts? Pat Robertson? Bob Larson? Robert Tilton? Billy James Hargis? ^Christophobe. Or Aimee Semple McPherson? Lonnie Frisbee? Marjoe Gortner? Mike Warnke?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 21, 2018 14:51:19 GMT
Yeah, that's a blog, but that's ok. WTF is it with people on this board acting like petulant kids whenever someone presents them with evidence that doesn't happen to be typed up on the spur of the moment? Smithy, you asked "like what" destructive heresies? I provided it all in a detailed summarised article. If you were genuinely enquiring, how about being intellectually honest and reading what the article has to say then coming back with a response? I said that's OK. Although it sucks that he died, it's not like I agreed with his or your teachings too much so it seemed kind of moot to even ask, so my apologies. I just wasn't sure why he would be anymore condemned than the average preacher man out there and thought it would be something you could type up instead of linking.It was my mistake since heresies are usually something tailor made from a particular belief. You said it so matter of factually that I thought there was some kind of official proclamation on it. I rarely buy into blogs and self-made Youtube videos since they are pretty much designed for bias and some are rampant with pop ups and whatnot.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 21, 2018 15:01:10 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Yeah, he was pretty nice for a Baptist minister. Usually clergies from Baptist, Pentecostal, Seven Day Adventist, are very hostile towards the Catholic & Orthodox faiths, right to the point of denying that we are Christian (even though we are the original ones), but, Billie Graham saw us all as his brothers & sisters in the Christian faith. He even was very close with St. John Paul II.Always a bad sign.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 21, 2018 15:03:59 GMT
Yeah, he was pretty nice for a Baptist minister. Usually clergies from Baptist, Pentecostal, Seven Day Adventist, are very hostile towards the Catholic & Orthodox faiths, right to the point of denying that we are Christian (even though we are the original ones), but, Billie Graham saw us all as his brothers & sisters in the Christian faith. He even was very close with St. John Paul II.Always a bad sign. More of a bad sign than say, W. V. Grant? Bob Moorehead? Roy Clements? John Paulk?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 21, 2018 15:14:54 GMT
He wasn't the worst televangelist out of the bunch.... Yeah, he was pretty nice for a Baptist minister. Usually clergies from Baptist, Pentecostal, Seven Day Adventist, are very hostile towards the Catholic & Orthodox faiths, right to the point of denying that we are Christian (even though we are the original ones), but, Billie Graham saw us all as his brothers & sisters in the Christian faith. He even was very close with St. John Paul II. Not always so nice. In 2002 he was forced to publicly apologise for remarks he had made about the "Jewish stranglehold on the media", which came to light when tapes of a private conversation with Richard Nixon in 1972 were released. Perhaps he meant the "Jewish stranglehold" on the Bible? Just as nasty, I know, but more the area of expertise for a guy who claimed not only to have read every page of the Bible, but had probably shouted out most of it in tents and meeting halls.
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