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Post by brokenbow on Mar 13, 2017 9:21:06 GMT
The biggest complaint I hear is "she uses the same facial expression no matter what". So does RDJ as Stark/Ironman yet no one complains there, nor should they as both actors play their parts really well. Just my opinion.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2017 15:24:29 GMT
I feel that people will find a reason to bash Gadot no matter what. "She's too slim" - never mind the fact that she's already put on weight for the role and isn't really any slimmer than Jamie Alexander as Sif, yet you hear no complaints about Sif being too thin.
"Her English is weird" - yeah well it's called an accent and it's about time that "diversity" didn't just mean white, black and Asian.
"She can't act" - because multi-award winners like Natalie Portman make such good cbm characters right? Or maybe because Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck are so much better as Superman and Batman than Gadot is Wonder Woman? Or how bout we judge Gadot's acting skills only after she's been given a leading role big enough to be judged on. In other words, wait until you've watched the movie to bash her acting skills.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 13, 2017 17:20:20 GMT
Plus Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 18, 2017 19:41:25 GMT
It's understandable especially for those reasons. She's too skinny,can't act and can't speak word of English without an accent. I would be one thing if her performance was passable but it wasn't, seeing her In BVS,I am just thinking this is what people got excited for? No Way I can see her in 2 hr film as the lead
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 18, 2017 20:15:10 GMT
It's understandable especially for those reasons. She's too skinny,can't act and can't speak word of English without an accent. I would be one thing if her performance was passable but it wasn't, seeing her In BVS,I am just thinking this is what people got excited for? No Way I can see her in 2 hr film as the lead Funny you say that when majority of viewers consider her one of the best (or only good) things in BvS. If you watched the trailers, the Amazons all have accents, so the accent complaint is probably the stupidest one. Not everyone needs to speak with an American accent. It actually makes sense that Amazons would have an accent. And as for the too skinny complaint, she's about the same size now as the average hollywood female. The only difference is she's taller than most.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 18, 2017 20:46:01 GMT
Not everyone agrees on casting decisions sometimes. It happens. I wasn't sold on Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor and now I hate Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor.
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Post by NewtJorden on Mar 18, 2017 21:08:18 GMT
She's a great Wonder Woman in my opinion, but people love to complain, so they'll find a reason.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 18, 2017 21:38:52 GMT
Not everyone agrees on casting decisions sometimes. It happens. I wasn't sold on Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor and now I hate Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. To be fair, Eisenberg really looked nothing like Lex. Whereas the only thing people really complained about Gadot in terms of looks was she needed more mass. And to be fair Eisenberg could have played a good Lex if only he was directed to actually play Lex Luthor, not a zuckerberg wannabe.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 18, 2017 22:54:07 GMT
I found it very odd people were mainly worried that Gal was just a tad thin rather than her strength as an actor.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 18, 2017 23:59:39 GMT
I found it very odd people were mainly worried that Gal was just a tad thin rather than her strength as an actor. Yeah. The complaints about her acting, I can understand. I mean, I still think it would be much more fair if we actually wait for her to have a major role so we have something to judge her on, but I do understand where people are coming from. But the complaints about her slimness when at the moment she's just as slim as majority of Hollywood actresses and especially the complaints about her accent and skin color are just ridiculous.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 19, 2017 2:29:24 GMT
It's understandable especially for those reasons. She's too skinny,can't act and can't speak word of English without an accent. I would be one thing if her performance was passable but it wasn't, seeing her In BVS,I am just thinking this is what people got excited for? No Way I can see her in 2 hr film as the lead Funny you say that when majority of viewers consider her one of the best (or only good) things in BvS. If you watched the trailers, the Amazons all have accents, so the accent complaint is probably the stupidest one. Not everyone needs to speak with an American accent. It actually makes sense that Amazons would have an accent. And as for the too skinny complaint, she's about the same size now as the average hollywood female. The only difference is she's taller than most. They don't what they are talking about. she has an accent because she can't drop it that's a ll there is too. Most women in Hollywood are underweight,that means she is underweightbut she's tall right hehe.terrible casting
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 19, 2017 3:04:17 GMT
And yet most females in Hollywood don't get criticized for being too slim. For example, Gadot looks roughly the same size as Jamie Alexander yet she never got criticized for being too slim as Sif.
As for the accent, that's really the stupidest complaint ever. Unless she specifically needs to speak in an American accent and then failed to do so, there's no real basis for the criticism.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 19, 2017 3:19:40 GMT
And yet most females in Hollywood don't get criticized for being too slim. For example, Gadot looks roughly the same size as Jamie Alexander yet she never got criticized for being too slim as Sif. As for the accent, that's really the stupidest complaint ever. Unless she specifically needs to speak in an American accent and then failed to do so, there's no real basis for the criticism. well i'm not sure if it's related to "fat shaming" because when there was the wave of "curves are sexy" there was that immediate pendulum swing of "skinny is ugly" and people were insulted for being thin. and this was roughly around the time of WW's casting. and I always say, people have a difficult time raising something without trying to lessen something else. however, I don't want to sound biased, but perhaps I am, but sometimes dc news gets criticized a tad more, like remember when they had that first batmobile image, and people got upset with the guns, despite there also being guns on the tumbler, batpod, and jet, even back to 1989, now it was used "questionably" in bvs, but just from the image, it riled people up. and no offense to alexander, but she and the warriors three weren't too memorable, kind of washing into the background of both films after roughly 10 minutes.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 19, 2017 4:27:20 GMT
And yet most females in Hollywood don't get criticized for being too slim. For example, Gadot looks roughly the same size as Jamie Alexander yet she never got criticized for being too slim as Sif. As for the accent, that's really the stupidest complaint ever. Unless she specifically needs to speak in an American accent and then failed to do so, there's no real basis for the criticism. Jamie Alexander is underweight,but using her as an example does you no favors,if they choose to say other wise,IDK what to tell you,yes though she is underweight The Accent is a legit complaint,shes always been depicted as having an American Accen t and yes by not having one she fails
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 19, 2017 4:30:33 GMT
And yet most females in Hollywood don't get criticized for being too slim. For example, Gadot looks roughly the same size as Jamie Alexander yet she never got criticized for being too slim as Sif. As for the accent, that's really the stupidest complaint ever. Unless she specifically needs to speak in an American accent and then failed to do so, there's no real basis for the criticism. well i'm not sure if it's related to "fat shaming" because when there was the wave of "curves are sexy" there was that immediate pendulum swing of "skinny is ugly" and people were insulted for being thin. and this was roughly around the time of WW's casting. and I always say, people have a difficult time raising something without trying to lessen something else. however, I don't want to sound biased, but perhaps I am, but sometimes dc news gets criticized a tad more, like remember when they had that first batmobile image, and people got upset with the guns, despite there also being guns on the tumbler, batpod, and jet, even back to 1989, now it was used "questionably" in bvs, but just from the image, it riled people up. and no offense to alexander, but she and the warriors three weren't too memorable, kind of washing into the background of both films after roughly 10 minutes. The curvier the woman the better
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Post by brownstones on Mar 19, 2017 4:32:37 GMT
well i'm not sure if it's related to "fat shaming" because when there was the wave of "curves are sexy" there was that immediate pendulum swing of "skinny is ugly" and people were insulted for being thin. and this was roughly around the time of WW's casting. and I always say, people have a difficult time raising something without trying to lessen something else. however, I don't want to sound biased, but perhaps I am, but sometimes dc news gets criticized a tad more, like remember when they had that first batmobile image, and people got upset with the guns, despite there also being guns on the tumbler, batpod, and jet, even back to 1989, now it was used "questionably" in bvs, but just from the image, it riled people up. and no offense to alexander, but she and the warriors three weren't too memorable, kind of washing into the background of both films after roughly 10 minutes. The curvier the woman the better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 19, 2017 17:39:15 GMT
And yet most females in Hollywood don't get criticized for being too slim. For example, Gadot looks roughly the same size as Jamie Alexander yet she never got criticized for being too slim as Sif. As for the accent, that's really the stupidest complaint ever. Unless she specifically needs to speak in an American accent and then failed to do so, there's no real basis for the criticism. Jamie Alexander is underweight,but using her as an example does you no favors,if they choose to say other wise,IDK what to tell you,yes though she is underweight The Accent is a legit complaint,shes always been depicted as having an American Accen t and yes by not having one she fails I didn't understand your meaning about Jamie. Are you agreeing with me or not? If you want another example then Zoe Saldana as Gamora. She's even slimmer than Gadot and didn't get much flak for her size. As for the accent, I don't remember any movie where Gadot tried to pass off as an American with an American accent. Unless you can specifically mention some then your complaint is just plain stupid. Actually it wouldn't even matter because the Amazons in this movie clearly aren't speakinh with an American accent.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 19, 2017 17:44:15 GMT
Jamie Alexander is underweight,but using her as an example does you no favors,if they choose to say other wise,IDK what to tell you,yes though she is underweight The Accent is a legit complaint,shes always been depicted as having an American Accen t and yes by not having one she fails I didn't understand your meaning about Jamie. Are you agreeing with me or not? If you want another example then Zoe Saldana as Gamora. She's even slimmer than Gadot and didn't get much flak for her size. As for the accent, I don't remember any movie where Gadot tried to pass off as an American with an American accent. Unless you can specifically mention some then your complaint is just plain stupid. Actually it wouldn't even matter because the Amazons in this movie clearly aren't speakinh with an American accent. Well, Gamora's an assassin (in the comics). Not a frontline warrior, so being waifish isn't so out of the question seeing how most assassins aren't really ripped to begin with.
I do think Gadot is being unfairly treated over all this.
As for Alexander, people don't realize how skinny she is. She's always wearing battle armor that hides the truth of her musculature.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Mar 19, 2017 17:53:51 GMT
I can't stand it when she is clothed.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 19, 2017 18:33:03 GMT
I didn't understand your meaning about Jamie. Are you agreeing with me or not? If you want another example then Zoe Saldana as Gamora. She's even slimmer than Gadot and didn't get much flak for her size. As for the accent, I don't remember any movie where Gadot tried to pass off as an American with an American accent. Unless you can specifically mention some then your complaint is just plain stupid. Actually it wouldn't even matter because the Amazons in this movie clearly aren't speakinh with an American accent. Well, Gamora's an assassin (in the comics). Not a frontline warrior, so being waifish isn't so out of the question seeing how most assassins aren't really ripped to begin with.
I do think Gadot is being unfairly treated over all this.
As for Alexander, people don't realize how skinny she is. She's always wearing battle armor that hides the truth of her musculature.
Gamora is just as much a fighter as Diana is. She just prefers to work in the shadows, doesn't mean she has to be slim. Besides, have you seen how she's drawn in comics? She's one of the most voluptuous female fighters in comics. As for assassins not being ripped, just look at how Elektra is normally drawn. Her look was actually based on a body builder. You need just as much muscle to do gymnastics as it is to wear armor. Then look at who they cast for her. Not that I'm bashing Zoe Saldana or Elodie Yung. Just want to point out how such an unfair standard is being used on Gadot.
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