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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 14:57:46 GMT
That's why you send in an infinite wave for them to fight. They did that in all 3 Avengers movies so far. You send 4 Sentinels at the X-men because that's all they can handle at a time. Magneto can't handle them all at the same time. Plus you're forgetting that Wanda is on the team. And the Hulk. There were infinite sentinels too. Ultrons clones where nothing but cannon fodder and so were Chitauri. And Magneto Prime from Apocalypse would handle the Avengers. Being in his forcefield no one would get near him. Ironman, Spiderman (with his Stark made suit), Black Panther would be rendered useless as their outfits are metal based. Caps shield and Thors hammer useless. Hulk could easily be crushed by having a stadium dropped on him or wrapped in adamantium/vibranium bars, which Magneto can manipulate. And I assume Wanda would not fight her father. But were there infinite sentinels where they were? They only came to the battlefield 4 at a time. Oh we are time traveling now? We going to get characters from across the timeline so we can get them at their strongest? That's how it works? Sure let's just get the strongest Magneto from the past to fight Ultron 32 years later. Another thing so the X-men is Magneto? When was Magneto an X-men? You do know that they weren't X-men in First Class, right? Magneto is not her father. Are we talking about the X-men and Avengers in the comics or the movies?
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Post by charzhino on May 4, 2018 14:58:36 GMT
I'd take them over the DoFP X-men any day. They went down faster than a prostitute in an elevator on the top floor. Theres no comparing DOFP sentinels with the toy robots from Ultron. And to suggest that Magneto wouldnt be able to handle an Ultron army on his own - laughable.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:00:32 GMT
You mean a highly skilled assassin and a highly skilled archer with trick arrows? I'd take them over the DoFP X-men any day. They went down faster than a prostitute in an elevator on the top floor. But can he? I mean, he'd need Apocalypse there to augment him. And by the time Ultron came around it would be 35 years later. He'd be the Magneto from DoFP. I really like how you guys try to pick and choose the characters at their strongest. Not at the time it would take place. But do you think those two would stand a chance against giant robots with super strength, death beams, and various super powers? How do you know that Magneto’s powers would be weakened? In X3 he moved the Golden Gate Bridge with ease, like he moved that stadium in DOFP. With no distractions. You think he can move something like that while fighting?
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:01:59 GMT
I'd take them over the DoFP X-men any day. They went down faster than a prostitute in an elevator on the top floor. Theres no comparing DOFP sentinels with the toy robots from Ultron. And to suggest that Magneto wouldnt be able to handle an Ultron army on his own - laughable. Again, you guys keep bringing in Magneto. If that is the case, Ego can destroy all the X-men.
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Post by charzhino on May 4, 2018 15:02:50 GMT
But were there infinite sentinels where they were? Yes there is a show of them flooding out of a carrier like a plauge of locust. Storm managed to slow them down. Doesnt make a difference if theres 4 or 400. They would still come one after another if the first 4 were somehow defeated. Who said fighting Ultron, I was saying prime Foxmen Magneto would handle the Disney Avengers with ease. She will always be Magnetos daughter that retcon was BS and Disney influenced.
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Post by summers8 on May 4, 2018 15:14:13 GMT
I am not holding you. I just said the truth. THE FACTUAL TRUTH and backed it up by the comics fact. Millions agree with me, the number of people who say mcu is damaging cinema keeps growing daily. maybe you should tell Disney to leave xmen alone. Leave us xmen fans alone, we dont want your MCU nonsense. We dont want mcu xmen comedies.I am usually right about everything because I do back it up by facts. and I don't LIE.You do know that if Marvel Studios doesn't make an X-men movie there will never be an X-men movie ever again. You be stuck with the crapfests that we've had up til now. Fox is selling because they realized they are sucking at making movies and want to sell off everything except sports and news. Disney did not go to them and made them sell to them. So the crapfest of logan, dofp, X2 and first class still bury all the mcu childish movies. have you noticed only disney children, Dumb masses and mcu fans love mcu movies? mcu movies are so horrible even people that like cgi aka the james cameron and steven speilberg of the world hate their movies. funny the best marvel movies that demand respect have come from xmen, not disney. disney mcu continue to embarrass the genre. How a film like logan survived last year with the marvel name in the midst of thor and gotg was cringe worthy and disrespectful to film making. Also do keep up the lies and wait till xmen gets last jedied. Also, fox is selling not because they are in trouble but because Rupert is over his company and want to live the rest of his life in peace. All the lies you tell. can't you even respect yourself. You factually lied about Sentinels and Ultron. Ultron was not joke in the comics or weak as the movies.I did not even bother to watch Infinity Wars after I heard it was cgi movie with no story. the days of DOFP, Logan and TDK will be here for a long time.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:17:10 GMT
Ultron's drones looked weak compared to the Sentinels because the Avengers are that much better than the X-men. That's why you send in an infinite wave for them to fight. They did that in all 3 Avengers movies so far. You send 4 Sentinels at the X-men because that's all they can handle at a time. Magneto can't handle them all at the same time. Plus you're forgetting that Wanda is on the team. And the Hulk. LOL, that's not how it works. maybe that is why you keep calling yourself an xmen fan, I do truly feel avengers fans are embarrassed about avengers. you call it better, we call it factually dumbed down for kids and poor story telling. a phrase that will soon be used with Disney X-men. a far cry from the xmen that inspired the nolan trilogy movies and gave us Logan, First Class and DOFP. Also in the comics, Wanda was an xman not an avenger and was killed by sentinels and guess what, the sentinels in the comics killed avengers. x-men were the last people standing. The writer wrote that comics in his words to show the sentinels in their full glory and make them impossible to beat by physical fighting. in the movies, the theme was the concept of choice, a major character development that Raven had to experience, this is what makes a film like DOFP superior to the mcu movies. In the comics, the theme was a concept of survival and determination for kitty pryde. the lesson of DOFP was not fighting and blowing up cities, it was about how the human character can overcome all the odds beyond the further casualises of war. See why I don't want xmen to have any association with avengers and the mcu? it is damaging to xmen's reputation. Good enough already xmen is respected by film makers and long time comic fans and mcu is seen as a joke. LOL...How can an mcu fan keeping lieing and keep getting it so wrong just to try and make avengers look less dumber than they already are? avenger disney fans make me laugh. this is what happens when disney write your movies and comics and not frank miller or chris Claremont, james mangold, mathew vaughn and Christopher nolan In the comics, Wanda was an Avenger. She left the Brotherhood and never looked back. I think that's why they can use Quicksilver and not Scarlet Witch. Quicksilver at least joined X-Factor. And me being an X-men fan has nothing to do with things. You see, you don't have to hate something to like something. That is your problem. And the problem with most of you guys. You think that because you hate the MCU, it makes you more of an X-men fan. It only shows that you have self-esteem issues. The X-men were the last people standing because it was an X-men story. You think if it was Avengers: Days of Future Past the X-men would be the protagonists of the story? No. What are you talking about? Are you just randomly saying thins now? What does the story of DoFP have to do with the X-men beating Thanos? Okay, I'm going to look back at my post to see why you are writing what you are writing. The insecurity with the X-men movie crowd is mind-boggling. Nothing about the story of DoFP...
Are you reading words that aren't there? Dude, I'm a fan of the X-men comics and some of the animated series and 3 of the movies. Most of the main X-men movies suck.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 4, 2018 15:20:52 GMT
But do you think those two would stand a chance against giant robots with super strength, death beams, and various super powers? How do you know that Magneto’s powers would be weakened? In X3 he moved the Golden Gate Bridge with ease, like he moved that stadium in DOFP. With no distractions. You think he can move something like that while fighting? Good thing the guy has a shield to keep those guys away from him which was strong enough to keep Quicksilver out. Not to mention flight. What’s Thor going to do without his metal hammer? What’s Tony going to do without his metal armor? What’s Vision going to down without his metal body? Black Widow and Hawkeye’s weapons are metal too. Not to mention Cap’s sheild. He can control all of that instantly considering he stopped a bullet in X1 right after it fire.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:23:47 GMT
But were there infinite sentinels where they were? Yes there is a show of them flooding out of a carrier like a plauge of locust. Storm managed to slow them down. Doesnt make a difference if theres 4 or 400. They would still come one after another if the first 4 were somehow defeated. Who said fighting Ultron, I was saying prime Foxmen Magneto would handle the Disney Avengers with ease. She will always be Magnetos daughter that retcon was BS and Disney influenced. But were they there. They were climbing up to the temple, but most stopped to play poker or something. So you are saying that they couldn't handle 4... By the time of DoFP, Thor would have Stormbreaker. Hell, Mjolnir would be able to take out those sentinels. I mean... ![](https://cdn.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/thor-2013-thor-faces-destroyer-earth-chris-hemsworth-600x348.jpg) There were no Avengers in 1983. So it still stands. You do know that there have been lots of "Magneto isn't their father" stories even before Disney came into the picture, right?
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Post by summers8 on May 4, 2018 15:24:37 GMT
Theres no comparing DOFP sentinels with the toy robots from Ultron. And to suggest that Magneto wouldnt be able to handle an Ultron army on his own - laughable. Again, you guys keep bringing in Magneto. If that is the case, Ego can destroy all the More importantly how will gotg and their crew deal with in the real grown up world. were logic and brains matter? I bet even ordinary batman can take them down like he did with superman. all he has to do is studied like magneto study how sentinels worked. lol. all the Disney MCU garbage with no plot or strategic thinking, and you ask us why mcu is the definition of poor story telling. well let james cameron explained it Cameron on why GOTG is irresponsible science. "We can see the market drives us to a sort of science fiction now that's either completely escapist and doesn’t require a technical consultant — an example of that would be ‘Guardians of the Galaxy.’ It’s just fun,” Cameron said (via IndieWire). “We don’t care how those spaceships work or any of that stuff works. And then you have scientifically responsible science fiction like ‘The Martian’ or ‘Interstellar.'”See that? gotg is dumb, its all fun. everything there is dumb. gosh even in xmen , Cebrero is deeply explained. in a grounded world were logic and brains matters gotg will not get pass X-Men or even the DC universe. hm, wonder why smart people hate last jedi and mcu movies.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:25:37 GMT
With no distractions. You think he can move something like that while fighting? Good thing the guy has a shield to keep those guys away from him which was strong enough to keep Quicksilver out. Not to mention flight. What’s Thor going to do without his metal hammer? What’s Tony going to do without his metal armor? What’s Vision going to down without his metal body? Black Widow and Hawkeye’s weapons are metal too. Not to mention Cap’s sheild. He can control all of that instantly considering he stopped a bullet in X1 right after it fire. With no distractions. He fired the gun!
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:26:50 GMT
Again, you guys keep bringing in Magneto. If that is the case, Ego can destroy all the More importantly how will gotg and their crew deal with in the real grown up world. were logic and brains matter? I bet even ordinary batman can take them down like he did with superman. all he has to do is study like magneto study how sentinels worked. lol. all the Disney MCU garbage with no plot or strategic thinking, and you ask us why mcu is the definition of poor story telling. well let james cameron explained it Cameron on why GOTG is irresponsible science. "We can see the market drives us to a sort of science fiction now that's either completely escapist and doesn’t require a technical consultant — an example of that would be ‘Guardians of the Galaxy.’ It’s just fun,” Cameron said (via IndieWire). “We don’t care how those spaceships work or any of that stuff works. And then you have scientifically responsible science fiction like ‘The Martian’ or ‘Interstellar.'”See that? gotg is dumb, its all fun. everything there is dumb. gosh even in xmen , Cebrero is deeply explained. in a grounded world were logic and brains matters gotg will not get pass X-Men or even the DC universe. hm, wonder why smart people hate last jedi and mcu movies. What does this have to do with what I typed?
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Post by summers8 on May 4, 2018 15:37:09 GMT
LOL, that's not how it works. maybe that is why you keep calling yourself an xmen fan, I do truly feel avengers fans are embarrassed about avengers. you call it better, we call it factually dumbed down for kids and poor story telling. a phrase that will soon be used with Disney X-men. a far cry from the xmen that inspired the nolan trilogy movies and gave us Logan, First Class and DOFP. Also in the comics, Wanda was an xman not an avenger and was killed by sentinels and guess what, the sentinels in the comics killed avengers. x-men were the last people standing. The writer wrote that comics in his words to show the sentinels in their full glory and make them impossible to beat by physical fighting. in the movies, the theme was the concept of choice, a major character development that Raven had to experience, this is what makes a film like DOFP superior to the mcu movies. In the comics, the theme was a concept of survival and determination for kitty pryde. the lesson of DOFP was not fighting and blowing up cities, it was about how the human character can overcome all the odds beyond the further casualises of war. See why I don't want xmen to have any association with avengers and the mcu? it is damaging to xmen's reputation. Good enough already xmen is respected by film makers and long time comic fans and mcu is seen as a joke. LOL...How can an mcu fan keeping lieing and keep getting it so wrong just to try and make avengers look less dumber than they already are? avenger disney fans make me laugh. this is what happens when disney write your movies and comics and not frank miller or chris Claremont, james mangold, mathew vaughn and Christopher nolan In the comics, Wanda was an Avenger. She left the Brotherhood and never looked back. I think that's why they can use Quicksilver and not Scarlet Witch. Quicksilver at least joined X-Factor. And me being an X-men fan has nothing to do with things. You see, you don't have to hate something to like something. That is your problem. And the problem with most of you guys. You think that because you hate the MCU, it makes you more of an X-men fan. It only shows that you have self-esteem issues. The X-men were the last people standing because it was an X-men story. You think if it was Avengers: Days of Future Past the X-men would be the protagonists of the story? No. What are you talking about? Are you just randomly saying thins now? What does the story of DoFP have to do with the X-men beating Thanos? Okay, I'm going to look back at my post to see why you are writing what you are writing. The insecurity with the X-men movie crowd is mind-boggling. Nothing about the story of DoFP...
Are you reading words that aren't there? Dude, I'm a fan of the X-men comics and some of the animated series and 3 of the movies. Most of the main X-men movies suck.
so basically 17 mcu movies suck, what do you say to that? they suck so much that to make a good comic film you have to distance yourself from MCU Movies. ask the people behind logan, tdk, dofp and deadpool. heck even wonder woman was the thor movie we never had under the MCU. Do you know one reason I am not seeing IW? I heard its like a brainless cgi version of DOFP. LOL, An xmen fan that does not know xmen stories and thinks disney will make good xmen movies when disney movies are far more childish than even the weakest xmen cartoons.lol Also, you are not a fan of x-men tas. if i remember correctly when TAS had its 25th celebration, you were bashing the cartoon because people pointed out how mature and compelling the cartoon was to marvel movies and cartoons of today and you could not handle it. you had a meltdown. it was around the time you had a meltdown about new mutants been a serious psychological drama when mcu was announcing that Ant Man is jokey comedy. You know I used to say by the time mcu xmen is out, the genre would have died like westerns as Speilberg said, but now, its.... by the time mcu xmen is out. DC Blackhawk would have killed the movie by been the real xmen movie. And its going to be much worse then DOFP killing The winter solider in 2014. much worse.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:41:07 GMT
In the comics, Wanda was an Avenger. She left the Brotherhood and never looked back. I think that's why they can use Quicksilver and not Scarlet Witch. Quicksilver at least joined X-Factor. And me being an X-men fan has nothing to do with things. You see, you don't have to hate something to like something. That is your problem. And the problem with most of you guys. You think that because you hate the MCU, it makes you more of an X-men fan. It only shows that you have self-esteem issues. The X-men were the last people standing because it was an X-men story. You think if it was Avengers: Days of Future Past the X-men would be the protagonists of the story? No. What are you talking about? Are you just randomly saying thins now? What does the story of DoFP have to do with the X-men beating Thanos? Okay, I'm going to look back at my post to see why you are writing what you are writing. The insecurity with the X-men movie crowd is mind-boggling. Nothing about the story of DoFP...
Are you reading words that aren't there? Dude, I'm a fan of the X-men comics and some of the animated series and 3 of the movies. Most of the main X-men movies suck.
so basically 17 mcu movies suck, what do you say to that? they suck so much that to make a good comic film you have to distance yourself from MCU Movies. ask the people behind logan, tdk, dofp and deadpool. heck even wonder woman was the thor movie we never had under the MCU. Do you know one reason I am not seeing IW? I heard its like a brainless cgi version of DOFP. LOL, An xmen fan that does not know xmen stories and thinks disney will make good xmen movies when disney movies are far more childish than even the weakest xmen cartoons.lol Also, you are not a fan of x-men tas. if i remember correctly when TAS had its 25th celebration, you were bashing the cartoon because people pointed out how mature and compelling the cartoon was to marvel movies and cartoons of today and you could not handle it. you had a meltdown. it was around the time you had a meltdown about new mutants been a serious psychological drama when mcu was announcing that Ant Man is jokey comedy. You know I used to say by the time mcu xmen is out, the genre would have died like westerns as Speilberg said, but now, its.... by the time mcu xmen is out. DC Blackhawk would have killed the movie by been the real xmen movie. And its going to be much worse then DOFP killing The winter solider in 2014. much worse. What are you talking about? What does any of this have to do with the thread?
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Post by summers8 on May 4, 2018 15:47:00 GMT
More importantly how will gotg and their crew deal with in the real grown up world. were logic and brains matter? I bet even ordinary batman can take them down like he did with superman. all he has to do is study like magneto study how sentinels worked. lol. all the Disney MCU garbage with no plot or strategic thinking, and you ask us why mcu is the definition of poor story telling. well let james cameron explained it Cameron on why GOTG is irresponsible science. "We can see the market drives us to a sort of science fiction now that's either completely escapist and doesn’t require a technical consultant — an example of that would be ‘Guardians of the Galaxy.’ It’s just fun,” Cameron said (via IndieWire). “We don’t care how those spaceships work or any of that stuff works. And then you have scientifically responsible science fiction like ‘The Martian’ or ‘Interstellar.'”See that? gotg is dumb, its all fun. everything there is dumb. gosh even in xmen , Cebrero is deeply explained. in a grounded world were logic and brains matters gotg will not get pass X-Men or even the DC universe. hm, wonder why smart people hate last jedi and mcu movies. What does this have to do with what I typed? GOTG works by cgi effects. I posted this awful scene already from gotg look past the horrible acting and bad cgi, there is nothing there, to try and adapt this to the grounded world of xmen is laughable. beast's mutation intelligence will spot all of ego's weakness when the gotg are still making useless jokes because like James Cameron said, GOTG is irresponsible science. It's all fun no brains Also kitty can just go back in time and stop ego from ever existing. you are an xmen fan and do not know this? HAHAHAHAHAHA?
Next time don't fall in love with something as brain dead as avengers, gotg or transformers, living a lie is not healthy. Let me guess, you dont know why batman who has no super powers is one of the best and hardest heroes to defeat in all of comics? it ain't about cgi and explosions kid.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 4, 2018 15:48:57 GMT
What does this have to do with what I typed? GOTG works by cgi effects. I posted this awful scene already from gotg look past the horrible acting and bad cgi, there is nothing there, to try and adapt this to the grounded world of xmen is laughable. beast's mutation intelligence will spot all of ego's weakness when the gotg are still making useless jokes because like James Cameron said, GOTG is irresponsible science. It's all fun no brains Also kitty can just go back in time and stop ego from ever existing. you are an xmen fan and do not know this? HAHAHAHAHAHA?
Next time don't fall in love with something as brain dead as avengers, gotg or transformers, living a lie is not healthy. Let me guess, you dont know why batman who has no super powers is one of the best and hardest heroes to defeat in all of comics? it ain't about cgi and explosions kid. What does any of this have to do with the X-men being able to beat Thanos?
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Post by summers8 on May 4, 2018 16:00:41 GMT
Oh and about wanda. wanda is an xmen character who serves as an avenger. But she is an xmen character first. In DOFP, it was heavily implied after pietro's death, she was with magneto before she died. magneto at that time had jointed the xmen as a last ditch effort after loosing everything. This is wanda from DOFP. ![](http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091018044111/marveldatabase/images/8/87/Wanda_Maximoff_%28Earth-811%29.jpg) checks your facts. next thing mcu kids will tell me is wanda was not part of the house of m story or a big part of xmen evolution.lol
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 4, 2018 16:09:08 GMT
GOTG works by cgi effects. I posted this awful scene already from gotg look past the horrible acting and bad cgi, there is nothing there, to try and adapt this to the grounded world of xmen is laughable. beast's mutation intelligence will spot all of ego's weakness when the gotg are still making useless jokes because like James Cameron said, GOTG is irresponsible science. It's all fun no brains Also kitty can just go back in time and stop ego from ever existing. you are an xmen fan and do not know this? HAHAHAHAHAHA?
Next time don't fall in love with something as brain dead as avengers, gotg or transformers, living a lie is not healthy. Let me guess, you dont know why batman who has no super powers is one of the best and hardest heroes to defeat in all of comics? it ain't about cgi and explosions kid. What does any of this have to do with the X-men being able to beat Thanos? More importantly, why does someone complaining about movies being juvenile sound like they're 9 years old?
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Post by charzhino on May 4, 2018 16:34:00 GMT
When will you be seeing IW summers8?
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Post by Skaathar on May 4, 2018 17:24:48 GMT
Except you forget that the Avengers had to continuously hold Thanos down while Mantis struggled to keep him drowsy. She was obviously struggling. The X-men don't have the physical strength required to contain Thanos. Xavier is the worlds most powerful telepath and psychic, Mantis' power is a fraction of his and if she was able to subdue Thanos even a little then Xavier would be much more comfortable. Mantis has been practicing her telepathy on intergalactic beings such as Ego. Xavier might have more range but I wouldn't be too quick to think he's flat out stronger in a singular psychic attack.
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