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Post by movielover on Mar 18, 2017 15:58:50 GMT
Name otherwise great films that have random, awkward, weird or just plain strange stick-out-like-a-sore-thumb type scenes. Post pics or vids if you can. I'll start. This scene from The Shining. It adds nothing to the story, and if taken out, wouldn't harm the film at all. It sure is odd! Here's a video discussing that scene. It contains some context from the novel for the scene and discusses some theories of what Kubrick was trying to do. It's pretty wild speculation, and I do agree it's very weird. Wow, that was a pretty fascinating and informative video! Thank you for posting that.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 19, 2017 3:04:53 GMT
While the scene in The Shining may feel out of place on the surface and if you took it out of the movie it wouldn't really change anything, it is still one of the most frightening moments in movie history and I am glad it's in the movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 19, 2017 3:15:38 GMT
It sure is odd! Here's a video discussing that scene. It contains some context from the novel for the scene and discusses some theories of what Kubrick was trying to do. It's pretty wild speculation, and I do agree it's very weird. Wow, that was a pretty fascinating and informative video! Thank you for posting that. I actually don't think the bear >>> child sexual abuse stuff is wild speculation at all. The film's main theme is domestic abuse and alcoholism. The bear thing is constantly popping up throughout the movie and the original yellow poster art reveals a cartoon bear if looked at the right way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 8:12:40 GMT
So wouldnt it make sense to have a smaller person dressed as a bear rather than two grown ups in that scene?
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 20, 2017 20:13:00 GMT
So wouldnt it make sense to have a smaller person dressed as a bear rather than two grown ups in that scene? That would make it much too obvious. It's suppose to work like a puzzle.
Also, one of my theories is that the little boy who lives in Danny's mouth has forced oral sex insinuations and that ties in with the scene the OP is talking about. Obviously suggesting that Jack has made Danny perform oral sex on him and then you know what in his mouth and when Danny first talks about Tony he is laying on a bear pillow.
In the book, Tony isn't a little boy who lives in Danny's mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 1:37:49 GMT
"That would make it much too obvious."
A man on his knees wearing a bear pyjamas costume performing oral sex on man isn't far off being too obvious either. If you've read the book the justification for it being there is already in your mind, since that scene in the movie refers to a minor subplot in the book. Having not read the book, and holding the belief a movie should stand on it's own when conveying meaning, I still feel its unnecessary for the film to work. There's enough weird images in that sequence to convey the descent into madness also.
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 21, 2017 2:58:20 GMT
My choice, at least what immediately came to mind, would be less a scene than a whole sequence, but here goes...
The flashback with Marlene Dietrich's singing in Berlin, in Witness for the Prosecution.
Not only is it pointless (apparently, the whole reason for its existence was so that audiences could see Dietrich's legs--which is fine and all, but messes up the whole flow of the movie), but it ruins our understanding the character interactions that paved the way for the plot. In other words, it makes no sense story- or character-wise.
I don't know who ultimately decided to film this scene--I can't believe that Billy Wilder wanted to, even if he did direct it (producer's orders?)--but it always annoys me every time I see the (otherwise first-rate) movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 21, 2017 3:19:44 GMT
"That would make it much too obvious." A man on his knees wearing a bear pyjamas costume performing oral sex on man isn't far off being too obvious either. If you've read the book the justification for it being there is already in your mind, since that scene in the movie refers to a minor subplot in the book. Having not read the book, and holding the belief a movie should stand on it's own when conveying meaning, I still feel its unnecessary for the film to work. There's enough weird images in that sequence to convey the descent into madness also. It isn't the decent into madness, it is referring to the possible sexual abuse that happened prior to the start of the film between him and his son. Most likely while he was drunk. A movie should stand on it's own and the movie does whether the scene is there or not. For fans of the book it is a nice reference. When I first saw the movie I loved the moment before the sexual abuse stuff even crossed my mine. I saw it as just a creepy moment from the history of the hotel. I always think it is interesting how people have completely different reactions to things.
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 22, 2017 17:29:30 GMT
I just thought of another sequence that hurts the plot and pacing of the film:
In The Uninvited (1944), one of my favorite movies, there's a terrible sequence in which, before seeing villainess Miss Holloway (Cornelia Otis Skinner), Ray Milland and Ruth Hussey have to spend time in a comic sequence with a patient in Miss Holloway's asylum. The whole flow of the picture up to that point is halted, and the sequence is only mildly amusing--but then it switches right back to the plot and horror again, without ever another mention.
Just thinking about horror pictures, even the comic sequences in Universal's The Black Cat ('32) and Hammer's Horror of and Brides of Dracula had more of a point!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 29, 2017 6:10:18 GMT
I was watching Back To The Future again, and the scene where the guy takes Lorraine from George at the dance is kind of baffling. She's screaming "Geooooooorge!" like the guy is about to tie her to the train tracks, no one seems to care or notice, then the whole thing is resolved just by George pushing the guy. I get they wanted a suspenseful moment with Marty nearly fading from existence, but it stood out as odd to me.
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Post by Pangolin on Apr 29, 2017 12:29:32 GMT
It sure is odd! Here's a video discussing that scene. It contains some context from the novel for the scene and discusses some theories of what Kubrick was trying to do. It's pretty wild speculation, and I do agree it's very weird. Thanks for posting that homergreg. That completely explained why that scene is in that movie! I think this speculation is way too far fetched.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 19:44:52 GMT
The main titles for Nocturnal Animals. Posting it would violate the terms and services. gotta agree here. I was so close to turning it off. Just a nasty, gross scene.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 19:31:31 GMT
Thanks for posting that homergreg. That completely explained why that scene is in that movie! I think this speculation is way too far fetched.
I would have to agree. Really far fetched. A detail freak or not, Kubrick really left it way too vague. It's possible he might have wanted to expand on the idea, but we'll never know.
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Post by maxwellperfect on May 18, 2017 20:09:00 GMT
Una O'Connor's scenes in "Bride of Frankenstein". It's not her acting. It's that her comic relief character is so un-needed in the movie. I thought the scenes with the miniature people and animals were the weird and unnecessary part.
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Post by maxwellperfect on May 18, 2017 20:13:41 GMT
2. "If I Were King of the Forest" from The Wizard of Oz. Impocerous!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 15:58:48 GMT
The email bit in Batman v Superman, where Bruce sends Diana the email asking her who she is then seeing the videos of each of the justice league. Given what was about to happen, that bit felt extremely out of place
still, not that BvS was a great film, it wasn't. It was hot garbage, that scene just felt out of place and had barely any relevance on what was happening in the film.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 20, 2017 18:37:13 GMT
I thought the bear costume scene was the creepiest part of the Shining. I think he should have had Michael Gough in the background though, roaring like a giant.
If you get the reference, you are a winner in my book.
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Post by geralmar on Aug 28, 2017 16:40:52 GMT
The "comic relief sidekick" in Alexander Nevsky (1938). Worse, the stupid accompanying music made it into Prokofiev's cantata.
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Post by geralmar on Aug 28, 2017 16:45:38 GMT
I thought the bear costume scene was the creepiest part of the Shining. I think he should have had Michael Gough in the background though, roaring like a giant. If you get the reference, you are a winner in my book. The Legend of Hell House (1973).
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 28, 2017 16:53:13 GMT
The Legend of Hell House (1973). "You weren't even five feet tall!"
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