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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 11, 2018 17:04:08 GMT
Minor? Stuff like that is all through the movie. I think you guys don't know what you don't like about the movies (if you don't at all) so just use the "socially accepted" reason. Next you'll move on to another "reason". Just like how you keep telling people mcu movies are not kid movies. And they are not. Kids can enjoy them, but the target audience is everybody and adults will likely get more out of them than their children would because some things will go over their heads.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 17:12:30 GMT
Not the point though. There's a centuries old literary rule that you don't immediately undercut dramatic tension with comedy... Unless it's an actual comedy. The MCU movies aren't dramas? Then what are they? Are they comedies? Of course you can have plenty of humor- just not with the deliberate intention of cheapening the most important moments of the story. Imagine Empire Strikes Back with Luke quipping after Vader reveals that he's his father. It would destroy the moment. Action/adventure.
Um... What rule are you speaking of? Has there been a "I am your father" scene in the MCU that was undercut with comedy when the rest of the movie wasn't as comedic? Especially a movie ending revelation?
You just made up that "rule". Didn't you?
No. It's called Bathos. Shakespeare has referenced it. Look it up yourself. We're having a good conversation here. Don't be an asshat and call me a liar. It's not cool, slick.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 17:15:08 GMT
Although it's been said, many times, many ways... This place isn't an MCU FAN forum. It's a digital internment camp disguised as an MCU "discussion" Forum. There's a huge difference between the two. Discussion forums on the internet, no matter how well-intentioned or well policed, degrade into a toxic stew of insults and trolling. It's true. Trolls will eventually worm their way into polite society and inject their venom into the proceedings while calling it "dissenting views." Fan forums are for people who appreciate the thing they're discussing (despite of its flaws or missteps). So, in brief, if you are a "fan" of the MCU, this place is a complete waste of time. When you're ready to have your internment camp ink removed, PM me. My name is Lord Death Man, and Death loves you. Don't be so dramatic. Hee hee hee
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Post by charzhino on May 11, 2018 18:02:33 GMT
You mean character based humor? Thor Ragnarok was pure comedy and subverted expectations. The window was suppose to break when he threw the ball. Banner was suppose to change because we saw it happen before. Even in TIH, Banner had that moment of fear that he wasn't going to change. Hulk just had a knock-down drag-out battle with Thor a half hour before. Hulk continued that. Does that omelette line keep you awake at night? "You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs." Thor taking the subway tells you what happens if he lost his hammer and too far from the battle. He'd have to get some form of transportation or run all the way. And running all the way would have even bigger comedic applications. You do realize that Rocket is still an animal, right? Think about his characterization. His biggest thing is that he steals. You know like a raccoon going through your garbage. Him talking about leaving turds around is something that an animal would do. Drax and Mantis is the same type of character. That's why they mesh well together. An Mantis is an alien that doesn't understand an idiom. "Kick ass and take names later" is something she heard from Quill and didn't quite understand. Is it needless? Do you mean Strange not knowing what something random he grabbed does? Or him going for a weapon, but the cloak telling him to go for the device that would restrain Kaecilius?Do you sit at home, brooding while you are plugged in waiting for your batteries to recharge? Are you some teen that thinks that something being humorous is for kids and makes you a mature adult? Newsflash, kid, it doesn't. Poor excuses. And you didnt answer, did you honestly laugh at those attempts at humour? They are character based jokes yes, but poorly done and even poorly timed. Theres no benefit in showing them as much as showing Tony Stark taking a shower. What would your reaction be if Batman in The Dark Knight gets his batmobile trashed and has to take the local bus to get to his HQ. Or Xavier falls off his chair during his face to face meeting with his younger self. Or General Zod starts talking about how humans poop more than Krptonians. 100% kids will laugh at it. That whole Dr Strange segment is comedy during what should be a serious encounter between the 2 mystics. Instead its a joke/gag fest start to finish. Deadpool fighting ajax is more serious than that.
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Post by ghostintheshell on May 11, 2018 18:07:08 GMT
since you asked so nicely, no
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Post by charzhino on May 11, 2018 18:12:18 GMT
This place isn't an MCU FAN forum. It's a digital internment camp disguised as an MCU "discussion" Forum. Wrong. This IS an MCU Discussion board that is open to opposing opinions and alternative veiwpoints. If people want an MCU Fan forum they can go elsewhere and receive handjobs from other members everytime anyone praises the MCU in a tiny echo chamber.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 11, 2018 18:22:25 GMT
This place isn't an MCU FAN forum. It's a digital internment camp disguised as an MCU "discussion" Forum. Wrong. This IS an MCU Discussion board that is open to opposing opinions and alternative veiwpoints. Most MCU fans can't handle dissenting opinions. They want to silence anyone who says anything critical or negative about MCU, the same way that Disney tries to silence critics who give MCU bad reviews by banning them from future press screenings. If people want an MCU Fan forum they can go elsewhere and receive handjobs from other members everytime anyone praises the MCU in a tiny echo chamber. Doesn't weirdraptor have a forum for that?
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 18:31:03 GMT
Although it's been said, many times, many ways... This place isn't an MCU FAN forum. It's a digital internment camp disguised as an MCU "discussion" Forum. There's a huge difference between the two. Discussion forums on the internet, no matter how well-intentioned or well policed, degrade into a toxic stew of insults and trolling. It's true. Trolls will eventually worm their way into polite society and inject their venom into the proceedings while calling it "dissenting views." Fan forums are for people who appreciate the thing they're discussing (despite of its flaws or missteps). So, in brief, if you are a "fan" of the MCU, this place is a complete waste of time. When you're ready to have your internment camp ink removed, PM me. My name is Lord Death Man, and Death loves you. Don't be so dramatic. Hee hee hee You like drama, fish man? Here's some more for you. I bleed to keep the red in the Marvel logo. Grew up in NYC reading their books and following their characters in MY city - a real city. This board isn't for fans of the MCU. It's for arm chair casting directors, love seat screenwriters, failed film critics and the brain dead at birth. I am not just hardline on the subject, I am the hard line. How many more bannings will it take, brother? Love, LDM
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 18:33:31 GMT
Don't be so dramatic. Hee hee hee You like drama, fish man? Here's some more for you. I bleed to keep the red in the Marvel logo. Grew up in NYC reading their books and following their characters in MY city - a real city. This board isn't for fans of the MCU. It's for arm chair casting directors, love seat screenwriters, failed film critics and the brain dead at birth. I am not just hardline on subject, I am the hard line. How many more bannings will it take, brother? Love, LDM This drama is taking its toll on you, SkullMan. I just want to see you laugh again... hee hee hee
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 11, 2018 18:33:46 GMT
Don't be so dramatic. Hee hee hee You like drama, fish man? Here's some more for you. I bleed to keep the red in the Marvel logo. Grew up in NYC reading their books and following their characters in MY city - a real city. This board isn't for fans of the MCU. It's for arm chair casting directors, love seat screenwriters, failed film critics and the brain dead at birth. I am not just hardline on subject, I am the hard line. How many more bannings will it take, brother? Love, LDM
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 19:01:37 GMT
Don't be so dramatic. Hee hee hee You like drama, fish man? Here's some more for you. I bleed to keep the red in the Marvel logo. Grew up in NYC reading their books and following their characters in MY city - a real city. This board isn't for fans of the MCU. It's for arm chair casting directors, love seat screenwriters, failed film critics and the brain dead at birth. I am not just hardline on subject, I am the hard line. How many more bannings will it take, brother? Love, LDM LDM, are you still buying and reading 616 floppies? (I stopped circa 2015.)
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 11, 2018 19:13:45 GMT
You mean character based humor? Thor Ragnarok was pure comedy and subverted expectations. The window was suppose to break when he threw the ball. Banner was suppose to change because we saw it happen before. Even in TIH, Banner had that moment of fear that he wasn't going to change. Hulk just had a knock-down drag-out battle with Thor a half hour before. Hulk continued that. Does that omelette line keep you awake at night? "You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs." Thor taking the subway tells you what happens if he lost his hammer and too far from the battle. He'd have to get some form of transportation or run all the way. And running all the way would have even bigger comedic applications. You do realize that Rocket is still an animal, right? Think about his characterization. His biggest thing is that he steals. You know like a raccoon going through your garbage. Him talking about leaving turds around is something that an animal would do. Drax and Mantis is the same type of character. That's why they mesh well together. An Mantis is an alien that doesn't understand an idiom. "Kick ass and take names later" is something she heard from Quill and didn't quite understand. Is it needless? Do you mean Strange not knowing what something random he grabbed does? Or him going for a weapon, but the cloak telling him to go for the device that would restrain Kaecilius?Do you sit at home, brooding while you are plugged in waiting for your batteries to recharge? Are you some teen that thinks that something being humorous is for kids and makes you a mature adult? Newsflash, kid, it doesn't. Poor excuses. And you didnt answer, did you honestly laugh at those attempts at humour? They are character based jokes yes, but poorly done and even poorly timed. Theres no benefit in showing them as much as showing Tony Stark taking a shower. What would your reaction be if Batman in The Dark Knight gets his batmobile trashed and has to take the local bus to get to his HQ. Or Xavier falls off his chair during his face to face meeting with his younger self. Or General Zod starts talking about how humans poop more than Krptonians. 100% kids will laugh at it. That whole Dr Strange segment is comedy during what should be a serious encounter between the 2 mystics. Instead its a joke/gag fest start to finish. Deadpool fighting ajax is more serious than that. This is all just your opinions and you are welcome to them. But don't act as if they are the only valid opinions. You don't even have any evidence that they are popular opinions. I have critical praise, box office, and fan ratings to support the idea that my opinion, while not the only valid one, is at least a widely held opinion.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 19:19:17 GMT
This place isn't an MCU FAN forum. It's a digital internment camp disguised as an MCU "discussion" Forum. Wrong. This IS an MCU Discussion board that is open to opposing opinions and alternative veiwpoints. If people want an MCU Fan forum they can go elsewhere and receive handjobs from other members everytime anyone praises the MCU in a tiny echo chamber. As you say it, so it must be true, Hauptscharführer.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 19:23:17 GMT
You like drama, fish man? Here's some more for you. I bleed to keep the red in the Marvel logo. Grew up in NYC reading their books and following their characters in MY city - a real city. This board isn't for fans of the MCU. It's for arm chair casting directors, love seat screenwriters, failed film critics and the brain dead at birth. I am not just hardline on subject, I am the hard line. How many more bannings will it take, brother? Love, LDM LDM, are you still buying and reading 616 floppies? (I stopped circa 2015.) I "wear the colors" my friend, I have no choice. Just cracked open a near mint copy of Avengers Annual #10 from my private stock. That sweet, sweet news print smell, those sublime pencils by Michael Golden --- smells like --- Death. Hee hee hee...
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 19:31:50 GMT
LDM, are you still buying and reading 616 floppies? (I stopped circa 2015.) I "wear the colors" my friend, I have no choice. Just cracked open a near mint copy of Avengers Annual #10 from my private stock. That sweet, sweet news print smell, those sublime pencils by Michael Golden --- smells like --- Death. Hee hee hee... You reading any X-books currently?
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 19:37:14 GMT
I "wear the colors" my friend, I have no choice. Just cracked open a near mint copy of Avengers Annual #10 from my private stock. That sweet, sweet news print smell, those sublime pencils by Michael Golden --- smells like --- Death. Hee hee hee... You reading any X-books currently? I'm reading X-Men Blue. It started off strong but went downhill by the time they got to the Mojo storyline. Blue has the best team of all of the X-Color books. I haven't picked up Red or Gold but, it's on my to do list.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 19:40:03 GMT
You reading any X-books currently? I'm reading X-Men Blue. It started off strong but went downhill by the time they got to the Mojo storyline. Blue has the best team of all of the X-Color books. I haven't picked up Red or Gold but, it's on my to do list. I considered picking up Blue and Gold when they premiered. But I decided to stay on the sidelines for now. I didn't even know there was a Red! Whoops.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 19:46:48 GMT
I'm reading X-Men Blue. It started off strong but went downhill by the time they got to the Mojo storyline. Blue has the best team of all of the X-Color books. I haven't picked up Red or Gold but, it's on my to do list. I considered picking up Blue and Gold when they premiered. Hr decided to stay on the sidelines for now. I didn't even know there was a Red! Whoops. Yep, Red seems to be the most popular of the bunch or at least the most talked about because of Jean Grey. I don't really care for Mahmud Asrar's art that much... It's okay. I would recommend Blue if you have the patience to weather some ups and downs in the series. All in all, though, Marvel still needs to work on producing a consistently good X-Book. The last genuinely gripping X-Men series I've read was X-Men vs. Inhumans, and I fully expected that series to be trash.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 20:00:17 GMT
I considered picking up Blue and Gold when they premiered. Hr decided to stay on the sidelines for now. I didn't even know there was a Red! Whoops. Yep, Red seems to be the most popular of the bunch or at least the most talked about because of Jean Grey. I don't really care for Mahmud Asrar's art that much... It's okay. I would recommend Blue if you have the patience to weather some ups and downs in the series. All in all, though, Marvel still needs to work on producing a consistently good X-Book. The last genuinely gripping X-Men series I've read was X-Men vs. Inhumans, and I fully expected that series to be trash. When would you say was the last really great run on an X-book? Grant Morrison?
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Post by charzhino on May 11, 2018 20:54:34 GMT
This is all just your opinions and you are welcome to them. But don't act as if they are the only valid opinions. You don't even have any evidence that they are popular opinions. I have critical praise, box office, and fan ratings to support the idea that my opinion, while not the only valid one, is at least a widely held opinion. Yes these are opinions i think it goes without saying, I dont need to put imo after each post. And yourr citing overall critic rating for the films in general wheras i am criticising the comedy part within those films which has been mentioned as a problem in fan and critic circles.
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