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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 22:05:12 GMT
Action/adventure.
Um... What rule are you speaking of? Has there been a "I am your father" scene in the MCU that was undercut with comedy when the rest of the movie wasn't as comedic? Especially a movie ending revelation?
You just made up that "rule". Didn't you?
No. It's called Bathos. Shakespeare has referenced it. Look it up yourself. We're having a good conversation here. Don't be an asshat and call me a liar. It's not cool, slick. But bathos is not what they are doing. Humorous tension breakers are quite intentional. Bathos (using your example) would be having the "I am your father" scene and ending it with him doing the very humorous yell while he's falling that they added in the Special Editions. Bathos is unintentionally changing the tone.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 22:16:08 GMT
The comedy is more subtle with maturer, intelligent jokes in winter soldier and Black panther than the rest. The other MCU movies DUMB down the humour to the point that its specifically aimed at young children with lots of slapstick and thats annoying as hell. Thor getting knocked over by the ball he threw at the window after a dramatic convincing of valkiriy. Banner landing face first on the rainbow bridge in a Lame way in the middle of a massacre. Hulk punching Thor for no reason in Avengers. Ultron making OMELLETE jokes during a serious exchange. Thor taking the subway in Dark World in middle of a universe dependant battle. Rocket saying he will lay turds in someones bed in gotg2. Drax and mantis making some stupid jokes about yawning and kicking names taking ass during a plan that could stop Thanos. Look at all these needless jokes and gags during the Dr Strange fight. Seriously you can write all those jokes, quips and slapstick outta all those scenes and they would be infinitely better because only children and man children would find those funny. Please tell me you dont laugh at them. Don't forget ronan being beat by dancing and the toy train fight in Antman. While Thanos is destroying New York Stark,Strange and Banner are talking about Ice Cream. All of Thor and Lokis scenes together in Shitnerok. I ll admit at least In the First Two THOR MOVIES AND Avengers some of their scenes at least seemed serious,but in Shitnerok their scenes together are so childish. The funny part is that Drax mentions the Great Dance-off.
I like how you say that they are talking about ice cream while Thanos is destroying New York, but they were still inside and the ring ship wasn't in New York yet.
And what is even funnier is that you think that the MCU and the people that like the movies are "ashamed" of what is in the movies. You guys try to twist how things went in movies to make them look bad in a lame attempt, but all you are doing is making people remember how good the movies are. Well, except for the Earth-based cast of Thor and Thor: The Dark World. Glad they got rid of the Earth-based cast from those movies.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 11, 2018 22:33:01 GMT
You mean character based humor? Thor Ragnarok was pure comedy and subverted expectations. The window was suppose to break when he threw the ball. Banner was suppose to change because we saw it happen before. Even in TIH, Banner had that moment of fear that he wasn't going to change. Hulk just had a knock-down drag-out battle with Thor a half hour before. Hulk continued that. Does that omelette line keep you awake at night? "You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs." Thor taking the subway tells you what happens if he lost his hammer and too far from the battle. He'd have to get some form of transportation or run all the way. And running all the way would have even bigger comedic applications. You do realize that Rocket is still an animal, right? Think about his characterization. His biggest thing is that he steals. You know like a raccoon going through your garbage. Him talking about leaving turds around is something that an animal would do. Drax and Mantis is the same type of character. That's why they mesh well together. An Mantis is an alien that doesn't understand an idiom. "Kick ass and take names later" is something she heard from Quill and didn't quite understand. Is it needless? Do you mean Strange not knowing what something random he grabbed does? Or him going for a weapon, but the cloak telling him to go for the device that would restrain Kaecilius?Do you sit at home, brooding while you are plugged in waiting for your batteries to recharge? Are you some teen that thinks that something being humorous is for kids and makes you a mature adult? Newsflash, kid, it doesn't. Poor excuses. And you didnt answer, did you honestly laugh at those attempts at humour? They are character based jokes yes, but poorly done and even poorly timed. Theres no benefit in showing them as much as showing Tony Stark taking a shower. What would your reaction be if Batman in The Dark Knight gets his batmobile trashed and has to take the local bus to get to his HQ. Or Xavier falls off his chair during his face to face meeting with his younger self. Or General Zod starts talking about how humans poop more than Krptonians. 100% kids will laugh at it. That whole Dr Strange segment is comedy during what should be a serious encounter between the 2 mystics. Instead its a joke/gag fest start to finish. Deadpool fighting ajax is more serious than that. Why wouldn't I?
Tony Stark taking a shower can give a him a moment of clarity. Funny thing is that people come to conclusions while being alone in the shower. Also, wouldn't him being in the shower be something in a mature movie? Especially if Pepper joins him.
Batman has grappling guns...
Xavier falls off the chair in real life of in the mind link? Why would he fall off the chair in the mind link? If he fell off the chair in real life then it would have shown that his body is not working while he was in the mind link. Didn't think these through did you?
Why would Zod talk about poop? He's no scientist that would care about how the body works. Again, Rocket is an animal that was given the ability to talk and be more like a person, but he is still an animal.
The only moment that is can be seen as comedic is them realizing that Strange is grabbing random objects, the cloak is point him in the right direction, and Kaecilius is talking with his mouth covered. The thing is that you are overly taking it as a "joke/gag fest" because you find it funny and you hate that you do. Everything that is happening in that scene comes from misunderstanding ("Mr. Doctor" and grabbing the object) or the environment (the cloak helping him). The only gag in that scene is what was on Kaecilius's mouth.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 11, 2018 22:34:48 GMT
Yep, Red seems to be the most popular of the bunch or at least the most talked about because of Jean Grey. I don't really care for Mahmud Asrar's art that much... It's okay. I would recommend Blue if you have the patience to weather some ups and downs in the series. All in all, though, Marvel still needs to work on producing a consistently good X-Book. The last genuinely gripping X-Men series I've read was X-Men vs. Inhumans, and I fully expected that series to be trash. When would you say was the last really great run on an X-book? Grant Morrison? The last great run on the X-Men was indeed Grant Morrison's New X-Men. You could throw in Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-Men as also being exceptional but, I think Morrison undoubtedly shaped the X-Men landscape for the next two decades that followed his run. Morrison took the X-Men from being a group of reactive misfits who were content to bemoan their lot in life and turned them into a well-honed death machine made up of X-gods who were ready to step into the spotlight. Morrisson's X-Men unapologetically stomp on the throat of humanity - and I personally loved that shit. He introduces so many new themes and concepts to the X-Men legacy that it is still mind-blowing to this day. And the movies have failed to tap into any of it because Fox is content to recycle the same two themes and scenarios with each new, turgid X-Frog release. Here is a quick list of some of my favorite X runs with issue numbers for reference. These are not just some of the best comics book runs, they're some of the best science fiction and fantasy ever written in any format. Lifedeath I & II Uncanny X-Men #186, #198 New X-Men New X-Men Vol. 1 #114-154, +New X-Men Annual 2001 Wolverine's Wedding Uncanny X-Men #172-173 Wolverine vs. The Reavers Uncanny X-Men #251-253 Gifted Astonishing X-Men #1-6 Wounded Wolf Uncanny X-Men 205 X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills (I think this was #8 of 12) Days of Future Past Uncanny X-Men #141-142 Dark Phoenix Saga Uncanny X-Men #129-138 Death Hunt New Mutants Vol. 1 #18-31 Return of the King Ultimate X-Men #26-33 Broodfall Uncanny X-Men #232-234 Tomorrow's Brightest X-Men: First Class Vol. 1 #1-8
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 3:53:17 GMT
No. It's called Bathos. Shakespeare has referenced it. Look it up yourself. We're having a good conversation here. Don't be an asshat and call me a liar. It's not cool, slick. But bathos is not what they are doing. Humorous tension breakers are quite intentional. Bathos (using your example) would be having the "I am your father" scene and ending it with him doing the very humorous yell while he's falling that they added in the Special Editions. Bathos is unintentionally changing the tone. Bathos is always intentional. A better example in the MCU is after The Ancient One's death, Dr Strange dons the cape with new purpose only to have that tone altering collar joke ruin the moment. Still, I like the MCU's humor most of the time. And an argument can be made for the validity of Bathos. The Simpsons uses Bathos to amazing effect in the classic seasons. It all depends on what kind of tone you're going for.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 11, 2018 19:27:08 GMT
I think the Star Wars board is much worse. That place is practically run by the haters who are the self proclaimed "true fans". And you can't be considered a "true fan" on that board if you like any of the recent Star Wars movies. Enjoying any of the newer movies even a little bit is unacceptable over there, you have to completely hate them or else you're not a Star Wars fan. It's pathetic.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2018 19:59:24 GMT
Just stop making yourselves look and sound stupid. You can’t argue with the facts that MCU movies are good critically and financially. No one is being paid to give the MCU movies good reviews. You keep trying to attack the fans with stuff “you” write that’s not even true and has been proven over and over again false about the MCU. This is where we get annoyed with you and want you off the boards. We are tired of having to do the same routine with you over and over again. It was fun to show everyone how stupid you trolls are the first 3 tines then it got old. We don’t go on to the DC boards and talk about stuff in the movies that never actually happened. We point out the faults on why the movies are bad and what they can do to improve them. I will make this clear one more time:WE DO NOT CARE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE MCU JUST STOP WITH THE TROLLING!!! If you have a complaint, please fill out the following form:
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2018 20:52:54 GMT
Just stop making yourselves look and sound stupid. You can’t argue with the facts that MCU movies are good critically and financially. No one is being paid to give the MCU movies good reviews. You keep trying to attack the fans with stuff “you” write that’s not even true and has been proven over and over again false about the MCU. This is where we get annoyed with you and want you off the boards. We are tired of having to do the same routine with you over and over again. It was fun to show everyone how stupid you trolls are the first 3 tines then it got old. We don’t go on to the DC boards and talk about stuff in the movies that never actually happened. We point out the faults on why the movies are bad and what they can do to improve them. I will make this clear one more time:WE DO NOT CARE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE MCU JUST STOP WITH THE TROLLING!!! If you have a complaint, please fill out the following form: DC Fanboy buys these in bulk.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 21:56:38 GMT
Cause if you don't care, then we don't care 1, 2, 3 times, two to the six Chosen for your fix of that Limp Bizkit mix...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2018 2:03:56 GMT
Cause if you don't care, then we don't care 1, 2, 3 times, two to the six Chosen for your fix of that Limp Bizkit mix... That was a finishing move. Well done.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 12, 2018 2:22:23 GMT
I think the Star Wars board is much worse. That place is practically run by the haters who are the self proclaimed "true fans". And you can't be considered a "true fan" on that board if you like any of the recent Star Wars movies. Enjoying any of the newer movies even a little bit is unacceptable over there, you have to completely hate them or else you're not a Star Wars fan. It's pathetic. So basically you're a Mary Sue-loving Disney Wars shill.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 12, 2018 3:28:21 GMT
I think the Star Wars board is much worse. That place is practically run by the haters who are the self proclaimed "true fans". And you can't be considered a "true fan" on that board if you like any of the recent Star Wars movies. Enjoying any of the newer movies even a little bit is unacceptable over there, you have to completely hate them or else you're not a Star Wars fan. It's pathetic. So basically you're a Mary Sue-loving Disney Wars shill. Case in point. By the way, no I'm actually not: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/2282146/thread
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 12, 2018 3:32:10 GMT
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 12, 2018 3:50:03 GMT
I thought the Vader scenes in Rogue One were pretty cool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 3:50:55 GMT
Cause if you don't care, then we don't care 1, 2, 3 times, two to the six Chosen for your fix of that Limp Bizkit mix... That was a finishing move. Well done. Thanks.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 12, 2018 4:11:09 GMT
I thought the Vader scenes in Rogue One were pretty cool. Much of Rogue One was cool. They captured the aesthetic of the 1977 film pretty well. Innit?
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 12, 2018 4:12:15 GMT
I thought the Vader scenes in Rogue One were pretty cool. Much of Rogue One was cool. They captured the aesthetic of the 1977 film pretty well. Innit? Agreed.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 12, 2018 4:36:10 GMT
Much of Rogue One was cool. They captured the aesthetic of the 1977 film pretty well. Innit? Agreed. You gonna watch the Diego Luna show on Disney+?
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 12, 2018 15:07:02 GMT
You gonna watch the Diego Luna show on Disney+? Should I?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 12, 2018 15:26:46 GMT
You gonna watch the Diego Luna show on Disney+? Should I? yes, must see considering the talent involved especially the mandalorian
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