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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:25:44 GMT
So our wonderful villain will kill Dad in a heartbeat, but does some real soul-searching on the question of whether or not to kill Mom.
And Mom is now Mary Poppins.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:26:45 GMT
I will have to see it, if it indeed happens, in episode 9, to determine if it’s a flaw or a gem. It would be a first if it is pulled off. A character redefining twist usually is in one film. “I am your Father”, was a twist across two films. A twist that redefines a character over three films has never happened, but the story teller doesn’t often have a three film guarantee to begin with. What exactly do you think the twist is going to be? So far she’s the least offensive thing about this so-far-dreadful movie. “I came to this island to die.” Who on earth wrote this stuff? Did this person ever see a movie in this series? Even just the last one? It ties in with something you will see in this film so I'll hold on. I hate how Luke is portrayed in this part of the film as well. The biggest source of fan angst for the film imho.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:28:13 GMT
Has Admiral Ackbar showed up yet? Yes! He, Chewie, and C3PO are the only characters who have made me think it was a Star Wars movie so far. I’m truly of the belief that the writers/directors/producers of this one didn’t even watch the last movie they made. Hamill’s “R2? R2!”–OK, that’s a trace of his characterization from the originals. There was more emotion on his face in that second than in anything else so far.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:32:11 GMT
What exactly do you think the twist is going to be? So far she’s the least offensive thing about this so-far-dreadful movie. “I came to this island to die.” Who on earth wrote this stuff? Did this person ever see a movie in this series? Even just the last one? It ties in with something you will see in this film so I’ll hold on. I hate how Luke is portrayed in this part of the film as well. The biggest source of fan angst for the film imho. Got it. Both Luke’s character and Hamill’s performance have been terrible so far. Admiral Ackbar’s gone?! Like that? Are they going to kill everyone without ceremony? I buy Carrie Fisher as a general much more than Laura Dern as an admiral, especially with purple hair and a dress made out of puke-colored curtains.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:34:37 GMT
What did you think of Finn’s introduction where he smashes his face on the glass tank? I was laughing my ass off at that. It was just so damn stupid. They couldn’t let that character have more than two seconds of dignity. I still like the character–and I think the actor does a good job with his part–but you’re right, it is so damn stupid. So far he hasn’t done anything of substance–and he’s being attacked by this Taser-happy gal now. Oy.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2018 2:39:30 GMT
Has Admiral Ackbar showed up yet? Yes! He, Chewie, and C3PO are the only characters who have made me think it was a Star Wars movie so far. I’m truly of the belief that the writers/directors/producers of this one didn’t even watch the last movie they made. Hamill’s “R2? R2!”–OK, that’s a trace of his characterization from the originals. There was more emotion on his face in that second than in anything else so far. The one-minute scene on the Falcon between Mark and the droid is the only thing in four Disney films that truly felt like Star Wars to me. (And, I've never not been talking to you. Just busy! )
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:49:15 GMT
Yes! He, Chewie, and C3PO are the only characters who have made me think it was a Star Wars movie so far. I’m truly of the belief that the writers/directors/producers of this one didn’t even watch the last movie they made. Hamill’s “R2? R2!”–OK, that’s a trace of his characterization from the originals. There was more emotion on his face in that second than in anything else so far. The one-minute scene on the Falcon between Mark and the droid is the only thing in four Disney films that truly felt like Star Wars to me. (And, I’ve never not been talking to you. Just busy! ) Oh, I know, I’m just kidding because you were so forceful about “if you like anything about it, I’m never talking to you again!” But I was just kidding around as well, no worries.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:54:39 GMT
The casino sequence is interesting in exactly what it does wrong. In Revenge of the Sith, which treats its story seriously, they go to an opera, which is so strange, intriguing, and alien that we’re drawn in: we want to know what this is, how it operates, etc.
In this, the casino looks exactly like any other casino. The human characters don’t even dress all that much differently than people dress nowadays (which may just be a commentary on how folks dress nowadays!). There’s nothing interesting about it, especially as it’s not shot all that well.
By the way: how has Luke become this self-loathing? The previous writers at least understood Han Solo. Whoever wrote this has no idea who Luke Skywalker is.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:55:50 GMT
Would Luke have seen himself as “a legend”? I never saw his fatal flaw as hubris.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:59:31 GMT
Benicio del Toro as–Captain Jack Sparrow.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2018 3:04:40 GMT
Benicio del Toro as–Captain Jack Sparrow. It's such a waste of del Toro...
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:10:54 GMT
So, is Luke now supposed to have gone insane? I mean, look at his eyes in the flashback! It looks like Hamill’s playing a deranged Santa Claus. That’d explain his complete change in characterization.
Kylo Ren’s (don’t know the actor’s name offhand…) performance in this is better, I’ll give them that.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:15:02 GMT
This is an interesting-looking sequence, with infinite Reys–one that deserves to be in a better movie. It somewhat reminds me of one of the later Potters–the one with Dumbledore and Harry in the cave.
The Few Things I’ve Liked about This Movie So Far:
1. Snoke’s Red Throne Room
2. Luke and R2D2
3. Infinite Reys
4. Daisy Ridley, whose performance has improved by leaps and bounds
5. The Actor Playing Kylo Ren, whose performance has done the same
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:17:32 GMT
I’m happy Luke didn’t actually aim to kill Kylo Ren. But Rey’s right: if Luke didn’t give up on Darth Vader, who [I’d guess] killed far more people than Kylo Red has, then how on earth would he give up on someone who hadn’t killed anyone at that point?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:18:27 GMT
Well, Yoda looks horrible. And is he smiling when Luke says he’s going to burn everything down?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:20:33 GMT
Well, Rafiki apparently wanted everything to be burnt to a crisp. Huh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 3:20:33 GMT
This is an interesting-looking sequence, with infinite Reys–one that deserves to be in a better movie. It somewhat reminds me of one of the later Potters–the one with Dumbledore and Harry in the cave. The Few Things I’ve Liked about This Movie So Far: 1. Snoke’s Red Throne Room 2. Luke and R2D2 3. Infinite Reys 4. Daisy Ridley, whose performance has improved by leaps and bounds 5. The Actor Playing Kylo Ren, whose performance has done the same Adam Driver, and did you notice that when Snoke dressed him down that he used the criticisms of Kylo's character from TFA, and that is what is driving his rage now?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:23:14 GMT
This is an interesting-looking sequence, with infinite Reys–one that deserves to be in a better movie. It somewhat reminds me of one of the later Potters–the one with Dumbledore and Harry in the cave. The Few Things I’ve Liked about This Movie So Far: 1. Snoke’s Red Throne Room 2. Luke and R2D2 3. Infinite Reys 4. Daisy Ridley, whose performance has improved by leaps and bounds 5. The Actor Playing Kylo Ren, whose performance has done the same Adam Driver, and did you notice that when Snoke dressed him down that he used the criticisms of Kylo’s character from TFA, and that is what is driving his rage now? I hadn’t noticed that, but now that you mention it, excellent point. I did notice that his character has been retooled–for the better.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:28:27 GMT
In other news, our gal just delivered herself into the hands of the villain.
And, on a possibly superficial level, she looks better in this one too.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:41:27 GMT
Wha…?
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