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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 20, 2017 3:33:46 GMT
Or should they be given their own message board section?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 3:42:29 GMT
Pedophiles should be added to their respective local prison populations.
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Post by Nostalgias4Geeks🌈 on Mar 20, 2017 5:21:20 GMT
Obviously trolling.
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Post by Admin on Mar 20, 2017 5:24:39 GMT
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 20, 2017 8:04:35 GMT
Sure. How do lesbians and transsexuals go together any more than pedophiles? Where is the message board section for alien abductees? Why are pedophiles and alien abductees less important than LGBTs? The fact that LGBT has enough clout to get its own message board section, and pedophiles don't, just goes to show that LGBTs have enough clout that they don't NEED their own message board section, and pedophiles do. Your comment was an example of the virulent pedophobic bile spewed by bigots.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 21, 2017 7:58:19 GMT
No.
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2017 8:05:32 GMT
Sure. How do lesbians and transsexuals go together any more than pedophiles? Where is the message board section for alien abductees? Why are pedophiles and alien abductees less important than LGBTs? The fact that LGBT has enough clout to get its own message board section, and pedophiles don't, just goes to show that LGBTs have enough clout that they don't NEED their own message board section, and pedophiles do. Your comment was an example of the virulent pedophobic bile spewed by bigots. That's crazy talk.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 21:19:22 GMT
Pedophiles should be added to their respective local prison populations. Even if they haven't committed any crime? And would we just be relying on paedophiles to report themselves for their sexual preferences, or would we be using a mindreading device on all individuals so that we could identify the ones with unfortunate sexual proclivities?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 21:28:44 GMT
Pedophiles should be added to their respective local prison populations. Even if they haven't committed any crime? And would we just be relying on paedophiles to report themselves for their sexual preferences, or would we be using a mindreading device on all individuals so that we could identify the ones with unfortunate sexual proclivities? Please don't stand up for people who have to actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children. The vast majority of them lose; just look at Kjell, who used to post here and spent his every Soapbox breath proclaiming he would never harm a child and who told me recently in an email that he was being sent to prison for child pornography after reports of his stalking a local child roused suspicion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 21:33:30 GMT
Even if they haven't committed any crime? And would we just be relying on paedophiles to report themselves for their sexual preferences, or would we be using a mindreading device on all individuals so that we could identify the ones with unfortunate sexual proclivities? Please don't stand up for people who have to actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children. The vast majority of them lose; just look at Kjell, who used to post here and spent his every Soapbox breath proclaiming he would never harm a child and who told me recently in an email that he was being sent to prison for child pornography after reports of his stalking a local child roused suspicion. They're unfortunate people who have unfortunate sexual preferences. And if they do actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children, and are successful in doing so, then they are made of strong moral fibre. And if adult heterosexual males can go through their lives without having sex (and not raping women, or even seriously contemplating the act), then I don't see why a paedophile cannot. No reason to suppose that paedophiles have less control over their sexual urges than ordinary heterosexuals and homosexuals; although it would probably be easier to commit an offence against a child than against a weaker adult.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 21:42:29 GMT
Please don't stand up for people who have to actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children. The vast majority of them lose; just look at Kjell, who used to post here and spent his every Soapbox breath proclaiming he would never harm a child and who told me recently in an email that he was being sent to prison for child pornography after reports of his stalking a local child roused suspicion. They're unfortunate people who have unfortunate sexual preferences. And if they do actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children, and are successful in doing so, then they are made of strong moral fibre. And if adult heterosexual males can go through their lives without having sex (and not raping women, or even seriously contemplating the act), then I don't see why a paedophile cannot. No reason to suppose that paedophiles have less control over their sexual urges than ordinary heterosexuals and homosexuals; although it would probably be easier to commit an offence against a child than against a weaker adult. I mean no disrespect to you as a poster, but I cannot agree that it ought be treated the same as being attracted to other adults. That line of thinking is the very one - in that it's part of the "slippery slope" of acceptance following the lessening of stigma against homosexuality - that intolerant straight people use to justify their discrimination against us. I will retract my earlier statement, but replace it with the proposition that ALL paedophiles be forced to attend rehabilitation programmes for their unacceptable sexual proclivities.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 21:56:51 GMT
They're unfortunate people who have unfortunate sexual preferences. And if they do actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children, and are successful in doing so, then they are made of strong moral fibre. And if adult heterosexual males can go through their lives without having sex (and not raping women, or even seriously contemplating the act), then I don't see why a paedophile cannot. No reason to suppose that paedophiles have less control over their sexual urges than ordinary heterosexuals and homosexuals; although it would probably be easier to commit an offence against a child than against a weaker adult. I mean no disrespect to you as a poster, but I cannot agree that it ought be treated the same as being attracted to other adults. That line of thinking is the very one - in that it's part of the "slippery slope" of acceptance following the lessening of stigma against homosexuality - that intolerant straight people use to justify their discrimination against us. I will retract my earlier statement, but replace it with the proposition that ALL paedophiles be forced to attend rehabilitation programmes for their unacceptable sexual proclivities. Anything that someone didn't choose is the same as any other. Many of the things that we didn't choose about ourselves (really everything about ourselves was unchosen, but that's perhaps a different thread) are potentially harmful to others if we allowed those undesirable aspects of our personality to drive our behaviour. A paedophile can't be rehabilitated to no longer be sexually attracted to children, any more than gay conversion therapy would work on you or I. But if paedophilia were destigmatised to some degree, then that would facilitate a climate in which they could seek help to control their impulses and help to prevent them from offending. You're committing the logical fallacy of turning an 'ought' into an 'is' - i.e. because being attracted to children is bad, then that means that it must be unnatural and also something that can be rehabilitated. If you're an atheist, like myself, then you know that there was no designer of life who made sure that only 'good' ingredients go into the making of a human being. So that's a different proposition from trying to 'rehabilitate' someone who hasn't done anything wrong, based on a facet of their identity that is probably immutable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 22:08:15 GMT
I mean no disrespect to you as a poster, but I cannot agree that it ought be treated the same as being attracted to other adults. That line of thinking is the very one - in that it's part of the "slippery slope" of acceptance following the lessening of stigma against homosexuality - that intolerant straight people use to justify their discrimination against us. I will retract my earlier statement, but replace it with the proposition that ALL paedophiles be forced to attend rehabilitation programmes for their unacceptable sexual proclivities. Anything that someone didn't choose is the same as any other. Many of the things that we didn't choose about ourselves (really everything about ourselves was unchosen, but that's perhaps a different thread) are potentially harmful to others if we allowed those undesirable aspects of our personality to drive our behaviour. A paedophile can't be rehabilitated to no longer be sexually attracted to children, any more than gay conversion therapy would work on you or I. But if paedophilia were destigmatised to some degree, then that would facilitate a climate in which they could seek help to control their impulses and help to prevent them from offending. You're committing the logical fallacy of turning an 'ought' into an 'is' - i.e. because being attracted to children is bad, then that means that it must be unnatural and also something that can be rehabilitated. If you're an atheist, like myself, then you know that there was no designer of life who made sure that only 'good' ingredients go into the making of a human being. So that's a different proposition from trying to 'rehabilitate' someone who hasn't done anything wrong, based on a facet of their identity that is probably immutable. Rehabilitation was a catachresis for what I actually meant - my apologies. Some sort of programme like the one that is in place in Germany, yes, that helps them to learn to control their impulses.
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Post by PanLeo on Apr 3, 2017 19:37:12 GMT
Of course they should.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:43:20 GMT
Please don't stand up for people who have to actively fight the desire to sexually abuse children. The vast majority of them lose; just look at Kjell, who used to post here and spent his every Soapbox breath proclaiming he would never harm a child and who told me recently in an email that he was being sent to prison for child pornography after reports of his stalking a local child roused suspicion. Pedophiles are mentally ill and everything is not about the "precious" children. It doesn't matter what you believe, they have always been and always will be pedophiles, just like any other devious and abhorrent crimes. What percentage of people are active pedophiles, compared to those that aren't? How would you know? Things happen and you can jump up and down as much as you like, it is not going to change others behavior. How do we know you don't have pedophile tendencies huh? Keep on fighting those awful desires sweetie, no one will judge you if you keep them to yourself. You're very boring for a troll. Please do better if you want to get a rise out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:49:43 GMT
You're very boring for a troll. Please do better if you want to get a rise out of me. Yes, you are boring and your closed and inflexible simple mind set is predictable. Look, you also resort to the misused troll insult, when you don't like getting called out and get upset about what you are hearing. Your own narrow sighted projection of things is yours to contend and deal with. Fool!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 18:04:23 GMT
Or should they be given their own message board section? No.
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Post by deviates on Apr 9, 2017 17:26:35 GMT
No.
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Post by Utpe on Apr 10, 2017 0:49:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 0:53:52 GMT
They're already included subliminally.
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