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Post by rick220 on Feb 23, 2017 7:42:21 GMT
A brilliant movie one of the best ever made. Probably the best silent movie ever made. And this movie to me is the quintessential PROOF that Hollywood has gone downhill on a rocket sled. People say 'movies TODAY are so much smarter than they used to be, the audiences are so much smarter'...no, just, NO. Look at this movie, made NINETY years ago, when there were NO computer effects, there were very limited special effects, and see what people were able to create back then. METROPOLIS is not a Hollywood movie. It was made in Babelsberg, Germany. In fact, 'Hollywood' didn't know what to do with it, cut it in length, re-edited it and basically changed its storyline upside down, and only then released it. It wasn't a success. The artistic approaches of 'European' and American films in the twenties were entirely different. It's not necessarily that one is better than the other. Both had their hits and misses. And actually that hasn't changed that much.
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Post by rick220 on Feb 23, 2017 7:48:25 GMT
I really enjoy going back and watching the movie. I bought Giorgio Moroder's restoration on iTunes and I don't like it's sped up. Also I remember some of the songs not really fitting the movie. Moroder's version is controversial to say the least, but I'll be forever greatful to him for reviving the film. Until he started working on it, METROPOLIS was lost, discarded, and all but forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 12:27:50 GMT
And this movie to me is the quintessential PROOF that Hollywood has gone downhill on a rocket sled. People say 'movies TODAY are so much smarter than they used to be, the audiences are so much smarter'...no, just, NO. Look at this movie, made NINETY years ago, when there were NO computer effects, there were very limited special effects, and see what people were able to create back then. METROPOLIS is not a Hollywood movie. It was made in Babelsberg, Germany. In fact, 'Hollywood' didn't know what to do with it, cut it in length, re-edited it and basically changed its storyline upside down, and only then released it. It wasn't a success. The artistic approaches of 'European' and American films in the twenties were entirely different. It's not necessarily that one is better than the other. Both had their hits and misses. And actually that hasn't changed that much. I know its not a Hollywood movie.
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Post by rick220 on Feb 23, 2017 13:14:51 GMT
METROPOLIS is not a Hollywood movie. It was made in Babelsberg, Germany. In fact, 'Hollywood' didn't know what to do with it, cut it in length, re-edited it and basically changed its storyline upside down, and only then released it. It wasn't a success. The artistic approaches of 'European' and American films in the twenties were entirely different. It's not necessarily that one is better than the other. Both had their hits and misses. And actually that hasn't changed that much. I know its not a Hollywood movie. I figured as much, but then why the link to 'Hollywood'?
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 23, 2017 13:52:13 GMT
I know its not a Hollywood movie. I figured as much, but then why the link to 'Hollywood'? Because Hollywood claims to make the best movies, and today they have all resources at their fingertips to create anything, and they still lack the ingenuity to do anything on par with a movie that was made almost 100 years ago when effects were bare bone minimum. That ought to be very telling about the lack of their actual abilities in the modern times.
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Post by rick220 on Feb 23, 2017 14:21:31 GMT
I figured as much, but then why the link to 'Hollywood'? Because Hollywood claims to make the best movies, and today they have all resources at their fingertips to create anything, and they still lack the ingenuity to do anything on par with a movie that was made almost 100 years ago when effects were bare bone minimum. That ought to be very telling about the lack of their actual abilities in the modern times. Ok, but considering METROPOLIS is a European film, wouldn't the comparison to current European film be more apt? Or use another American silent movie to comment on current Hollywood? At the time, there was no Hollywood film comparable to the scope and approach of METROPOLIS either. And, was it really all that good then, and all so bad now? Have you seen ARRIVAL?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:22:57 GMT
I know its not a Hollywood movie. I figured as much, but then why the link to 'Hollywood'? Honestly i just wrote it and did not think about the fact that i wrote Hollywood.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 23, 2017 15:13:07 GMT
And, was it really all that good then, and all so bad now? Have you seen ARRIVAL? Wasn't all good then, not *quite* all bad now, but it used to be far better.
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Post by rick220 on Feb 23, 2017 15:31:56 GMT
All right, Hollywood or not. METROPOLIS is great Although, there's this one little scene that always bothered me a bit. It is the moment when the workers change shifts, and the one shift gets on the elevator. While the scene uses real extras, there is one shot which is plainly filled with cardboard/painted figures. I think it's this one. I always wondered why that was done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:52:29 GMT
All right, Hollywood or not. METROPOLIS is great Although, there's this one little scene that always bothered me a bit. It is the moment when the workers change shifts, and the one shift gets on the elevator. While the scene uses real extras, there is one shot which is plainly filled with cardboard/painted figures. I think it's this one. I always wondered why that was done. Yea, I saw that last night. I'm thinking it may be an added 'processed shot' after budget, etc? Or maybe they thought it might be 'arty'? I hear you though. It's kind of 'stiff' against the rest of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 23:06:55 GMT
wow, i never noticed that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 22:25:47 GMT
All right, Hollywood or not. METROPOLIS is great Although, there's this one little scene that always bothered me a bit. It is the moment when the workers change shifts, and the one shift gets on the elevator. While the scene uses real extras, there is one shot which is plainly filled with cardboard/painted figures. I think it's this one. I always wondered why that was done. I noticed it too, but always just thought it was a surreal expressionist piece in the film. The whole scene was about the workers being dehumanized, and thought that part was reducing them all the way to flat unhuman objects.
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Post by LaurenceBranagh on Feb 28, 2017 23:50:31 GMT
One of my favorites.
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Post by gunshotwound on Mar 1, 2017 0:39:04 GMT
I saw it long, long, long time ago on a PBS TV station. I liked it a lot although I have not seen it since my first time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 0:54:15 GMT
I saw it long, long, long time ago on a PBS TV station. I liked it a lot although I have not seen it since my first time. its all over the net, you tube has countless uploads of it too. maybe you should check it out again, for old times sake.
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Post by anubis51 on Apr 2, 2017 1:17:28 GMT
Hi all,
I haven't been here on IMDB2 for very long, and it's taking a bit of getting used to, navigation-wise, and such, but I would like to say that I LOVE Fritz Lang's 'Metropolis'!!!!!!
Like a lot of other people, I discovered it due to Giorgio Moroder's mid-80s colourised version, and I have to say, that even now, it remains my firm favourite. It grabbed me, right from the start, and the rock-soundtrack was GREAT for the time, even if it didn't fit entirely in with the images in the story.
Since then (I originally had it recorded on Beta video!!) I have managed to source two more copies, and they vary in length, as well as quality.
The second one is on VHS, and is from Force Video, and this runs for 139 minutes, with a (very) loose orchestral soundtrack, which tends to be all over the place to begin with, but which then picks up a bit more tempo and feeling from about halfway on. This version uses the black title cards, and Joh Fredersen is named John Fredersen. Similarly, Josaphat is re-named Joseph. No real problem with that, but the picture quality is nowhere near as good as the old Moroder version. It has quite a few extra scenes though, and this gives a much better idea of what is happening in the story than the shorter version.
The third one I own is the Kino DVD version, which runs 124 minutes, and the picture quality is really good! So, too, is the great orchestral soundtrack, which has been scored to fit in (mostly) with the images. It runs rings around the musical score of the second, longer version.
So, now I can pick and choose which version I wish to see. They are all good, and the created mood is quite different on each.
I still prefer the Moroder version, simply because it is the first one I saw, and it has the great (to me!) rock soundtrack.
I love the story. I love the actors. I love the surreal sets and lighting, and I love the sensations that the film creates.
Also........"There can be no understanding between the Head and the Hands, unless the Heart acts as Mediator...."
Truly wonderful stuff..........
Thank You.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 2, 2017 3:53:02 GMT
Where do you begin to talk about this movie? For this film alone, Fritz Lang enshrined himself in cinematic folklore forever. It's influence is everywhere, it transcends film communities, it's been an emblem of political movements, industrial movements, social movements. It's a masterpiece as you say, one of perhaps a dozen or more classics from the 1920s that shifted the accepted parameters of society forever, proving once and for all (within the filmic age) that great art will always possess the power to encourage, provoke or instigate radical social reform.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 2, 2017 6:14:01 GMT
Amazing example in regards to a movie in a certain relevancy.
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Post by sjg on Apr 2, 2017 14:52:16 GMT
I saw the long version for the first time this week and for its time its impressive but overall i didn't think much too it. I had to speed it up to get through it.
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