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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 1:34:14 GMT
Odin executed anyone who opposed him. That's why Odin appointed Hela the Executioner. So Odin could have Hela execute anyone who opposed him. Because that's what Executioners do for their King. Executioners execute those who oppose the King. So please tell me who exactly Odin had executed. Odin had anyone who oppose him executed. That's why Odin appointed Hela the Executioner. So Odin could have Hela execute anyone who opposed him. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 30, 2018 2:06:39 GMT
So they're human and have flaws. What's wrong with that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 2:07:56 GMT
Superman's father shot him into space on a rocketship when he was a baby and he crash-landed on Earth. So Jor-El did for Kal-El what Captain Kirk, as Dr. McCoy once described it, often does for his crew: Turn death into a chance for survival. I'd say that makes an excellent father. That's one way of looking at it, I guess. Though I think launching your baby along with the one thing a maniacal villain wants sort of undercuts that. I think that would limit his odds of survival. I don't think Zod was even in the Phantom Zone yet at that point. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 2:18:30 GMT
So Jor-El did for Kal-El what Captain Kirk, as Dr. McCoy once described it, often does for his crew: Turn death into a chance for survival. I'd say that makes an excellent father. That's one way of looking at it, I guess. Though I think launching your baby along with the one thing a maniacal villain wants sort of undercuts that. I think that would limit his odds of survival. I don't think Zod was even in the Phantom Zone yet at that point. Krypton was about to explode. Jor-El expected that Zod would die along with the rest of Krypton so he didn't anticipate Zod being able to track down Kal-El to get the codex. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 2:19:26 GMT
That's one way of looking at it, I guess. Though I think launching your baby along with the one thing a maniacal villain wants sort of undercuts that. I think that would limit his odds of survival. I don't think Zod was even in the Phantom Zone yet at that point. Krypton was about to explode. Jor-El expected that Zod would die along with the rest of Krypton so he didn't anticipate Zod being able to track down Kal-El to get the codex. Wouldn't the codex blow up with the planet anyway? He could have put it in his sock drawer. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2018 2:28:32 GMT
So please tell me who exactly Odin had executed. Odin had anyone who oppose him executed. That's why Odin appointed Hela the Executioner. So Odin could have Hela execute anyone who opposed him. Prove it. Prove that Hela actually executed people under Odin's orders. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 2:33:43 GMT
Odin had anyone who oppose him executed. That's why Odin appointed Hela the Executioner. So Odin could have Hela execute anyone who opposed him. Prove it. Prove that Hela actually executed people under Odin's orders. Did you not watch Ragnarok? It said that Hela served as the Executioner under Odin's reign. That means Heal executed people under orders from Odin. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 30, 2018 3:05:12 GMT
Jonathan Kent suggested Clark let people die. No, he said it was Clark’s choice. I think those were wise words. That's even worse. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2018 3:07:20 GMT
Prove it. Prove that Hela actually executed people under Odin's orders. Did you not watch Ragnarok? It said that Hela served as the Executioner under Odin's reign. That means Heal executed people under orders from Odin. I'm still waiting for you to actually prove Odin had everyone who opposed him executed. Simply having an executioner doesn't automatically mean you have everyone who opposes you executed. So go, bring me some proof or admit that you're nothing but a lying troll. |
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 30, 2018 4:21:19 GMT
Odin appointed Hela as the Executioner and ordered her to execute anyone who opposed him. And Odin banished Hela when he thought that Hela was too ambitious and would take his throne. Would you mind quoting the exact line where Odin supposedly asked Hela to execute anyone who opposed him? You know, just to make sure you're not making stuff up. He also changed a lot since Hela's time. So again I ask, prove that Odin executed any who opposed him. You don’t know what empire-building involves, do you? |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2018 4:48:51 GMT
Would you mind quoting the exact line where Odin supposedly asked Hela to execute anyone who opposed him? You know, just to make sure you're not making stuff up. He also changed a lot since Hela's time. So again I ask, prove that Odin executed any who opposed him. You don’t know what empire-building involves, do you? I know it doesn't involve executing everyone who opposes you. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 30, 2018 10:48:01 GMT
I have a Bachelors in History from Pfeiffer University. My concentration was Western European History. My focus was on Medieval History. My thesis was on Medieval Weapons vs Armor and Siege Weapons and Tactics vs Fortification. That's not bragging or anything just credentials. (I also had 2 minors in Art/Art History and Social Studies) By all studies I've done and reading in Europe specifically, No most Royalty did not use Executioners as means to kill those who opposed them. In fact most Royals and Nobles were spared death even in war time. If you were worth enough opposing armies wouldn't even kill you. You need to get a refund from those schools. Because anyone who's familiar with Tudor history knows that Henry VII was well-known for eliminating any challenges to his throne by executing anyone who wasn't loyal to him. Heck, Henry VII's granddaughter, Queen Mary, was known as "Bloody Mary" because she executed many people simply for opposing her wishes to make England a Catholic country. Queen Mary also executed Lady Jane Grey and her husband. And this December, there's a new movie with Margot Robbie playing Queen Elizabeth I and Saorise Ronan playing Mary, Queen of Scots. Did your school ever teach you about what happened to Mary, Queen of Scots? She was a Queen, who was executed by her cousin, Queen Elizabeth I. Man, you really do need to get a refund from your school. Because Kings and Queens have often executed those who opposed them. And that's what Odin did too. Odin appointed Hela the Executioner so he could order Hela to execute anyone who opposed him. You do realize that Medieval Era of history in Europe lasted roughly 1000 years and had more than 100+ States/Countries right? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 30, 2018 10:55:18 GMT
Is Anakin Skywalker a bad father?
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 30, 2018 12:09:15 GMT
If you want to comment about the MCU, you should really start watching their movies first. The MCU have fathers like Odin, Howard Stark, Hawkeye... all of whom are not criminals. Odin was a ruthless and brutal conqueror who executed anyone who opposed him. Howard Stark was indeed a criminal. There was a warrant for his arrest in Agent Carter season 1. Hawkeye is also a criminal. Hawkeye abandoned his wife and kids to go to Germany to aid and abet a wanted criminal to flee from the law. Scott Lang is a criminal. He was incarcerated for stealing. Then after he was released from prison, he abandoned his daughter to go to Germany to aid and abet a wanted criminal to flee from the law. There's also Ego, who tried to destroy the universe. And Thanos, who killed more than half the universe. So Howard Stark had a bogus warrant out against him that was never executed and he is a criminal but Henry Allen spent half his life in prison and it does not count because he was innocent? DC Fan logic. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 30, 2018 14:04:05 GMT
You need to get a refund from those schools. Because anyone who's familiar with Tudor history knows that Henry VII was well-known for eliminating any challenges to his throne by executing anyone who wasn't loyal to him. Heck, Henry VII's granddaughter, Queen Mary, was known as "Bloody Mary" because she executed many people simply for opposing her wishes to make England a Catholic country. Queen Mary also executed Lady Jane Grey and her husband. And this December, there's a new movie with Margot Robbie playing Queen Elizabeth I and Saorise Ronan playing Mary, Queen of Scots. Did your school ever teach you about what happened to Mary, Queen of Scots? She was a Queen, who was executed by her cousin, Queen Elizabeth I. Man, you really do need to get a refund from your school. Because Kings and Queens have often executed those who opposed them. And that's what Odin did too. Odin appointed Hela the Executioner so he could order Hela to execute anyone who opposed him. You do realize that Medieval Era of history in Europe lasted roughly 1000 years and had more than 100+ States/Countries right? He needs to read more IMDb film synopses to learn more history, as he probably did in this case. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 18:19:54 GMT
Odin was a ruthless and brutal conqueror who executed anyone who opposed him. Howard Stark was indeed a criminal. There was a warrant for his arrest in Agent Carter season 1. Hawkeye is also a criminal. Hawkeye abandoned his wife and kids to go to Germany to aid and abet a wanted criminal to flee from the law. Scott Lang is a criminal. He was incarcerated for stealing. Then after he was released from prison, he abandoned his daughter to go to Germany to aid and abet a wanted criminal to flee from the law. There's also Ego, who tried to destroy the universe. And Thanos, who killed more than half the universe. So Howard Stark had a bogus warrant out against him that was never executed and he is a criminal but Henry Allen spent half his life in prison and it does not count because he was innocent? DC Fan logic. It wasn't a bogus warrant. It was a legal warrant issued by a judge and Howard Stark did in fact commit the crimes listed in the arrest warrant. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 30, 2018 22:42:35 GMT
Cassie got a fun loving father.
You know what my father use to do to me?
Beat my ass.
I wish my dad built me a heist ride.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jul 30, 2018 22:55:16 GMT
So Howard Stark had a bogus warrant out against him that was never executed and he is a criminal but Henry Allen spent half his life in prison and it does not count because he was innocent? DC Fan logic. It wasn't a bogus warrant. It was a legal warrant issued by a judge and Howard Stark did in fact commit the crimes listed in the arrest warrant. This discussion just reminded me of when Thomas Wayne thought his fists were faster than a bullet. Is he supposed to be Trump level dumb-but-everyone-ignores-it-rich-guy or did he want to get his family killed? |
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Post by merh on Jul 31, 2018 0:54:26 GMT
Oh DC-Fan, you're such a dumb idiot sometimes. Do I really need to spell this out for you? An executioner gets appointed to execute any criminal deemed for execution/death sentence. They don't get to execute anyone simply for opposing the king. Yes, they do. That's what the Executioner does. Execute anyone whom the King orders them to. Anne Boleyn was executed. What was her crime? The charges against her were infidelity and incest, but the consensus among almost all historians is that she never committed infidelity or incest and those were just trumped-up charges to execute her because she refused to give Henry VIII the divorce that he wanted. So Henry VIII ordered his Executioner to execute Anne Boleyn for opposing him. That's the same with Odin. He appointed Hela the Executioner so he could order her to execute anyone who opposed him. Once again, I completely crushed your argument. What if Odin locked her away because she was killing wantonly. Executioners execute criminals. Like our own government used to have people who pulled the switch to execute those sentenced to die. |
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Post by merh on Jul 31, 2018 0:56:52 GMT
Would you mind quoting the exact line where Odin supposedly asked Hela to execute anyone who opposed him? You know, just to make sure you're not making stuff up. He also changed a lot since Hela's time. So again I ask, prove that Odin executed any who opposed him. You don’t know what empire-building involves, do you? Did he kill Laufey? So if he didnt kill the king of the Jotunn, why would he randomly kill people? |
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