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Post by Stuart "2-D" Pot on Mar 24, 2017 11:21:35 GMT
I'm honoured really
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Post by miike80 on Mar 24, 2017 12:17:32 GMT
Just because Logan is better than most movies in the MCU doesn't mean the MCU is dead .Whenever a comic book is really it might actually help the genre
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2017 15:12:33 GMT
Just because Logan is better than most movies in the MCU doesn't mean the MCU is dead .Whenever a comic book is really it might actually help the genre Logan wasn't THAT much better, it just had more blood and it being Jackmans' last hurrah meant people went easy on it.
And yes, the ending was very predictable.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 24, 2017 15:31:42 GMT
Just because Logan is better than most movies in the MCU doesn't mean the MCU is dead .Whenever a comic book is really it might actually help the genre Logan wasn't THAT much better, it just had more blood and it being Jackmans' last hurrah meant people went easy on it.
And yes, the ending was very predictable.
I have to agree. It had great heart, and I think that's what leads most people to feel it's great. But it still suffers from a bunch of weaknesses. For example, the villains weren't really all that noteworthy. The fight choreography, while brutal, wasn't really anything special. The plot was pretty straight forward. Not that that's a bad thing of course but there's no way you can call this an intellectual film. I'm not bashing the movie mind you, just pointing out that it's not as great as people make it out to be.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 24, 2017 15:35:23 GMT
this thread is still going on?
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Post by miike80 on Mar 24, 2017 15:42:50 GMT
Just because Logan is better than most movies in the MCU doesn't mean the MCU is dead .Whenever a comic book is really it might actually help the genre Logan wasn't THAT much better, it just had more blood and it being Jackmans' last hurrah meant people went easy on it.
And yes, the ending was very predictable.
I didn't care for the R-rated aspects of the movie.i cared for the characters and their development. Also the cinematography and music were top notch
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 24, 2017 15:52:32 GMT
Just because Logan is better than most movies in the MCU doesn't mean the MCU is dead .Whenever a comic book is really it might actually help the genre Logan wasn't THAT much better, it just had more blood and it being Jackmans' last hurrah meant people went easy on it.
And yes, the ending was very predictable.
Gotta disagree. People didn't go easy on it. They liked it because it was good. The character moments were well done. Hence why the performances are getting so much acclaim, regardless of the blood.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2017 18:56:49 GMT
Logan wasn't THAT much better, it just had more blood and it being Jackmans' last hurrah meant people went easy on it.
And yes, the ending was very predictable.
Gotta disagree. People didn't go easy on it. They liked it because it was good. The character moments were well done. Hence why the performances are getting so much acclaim, regardless of the blood. Like I said, it's Jackman and Stewarts' last. So the critics felt they should be easier on them this movie. It's sort of how they went easy on Dark Knight.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 24, 2017 19:09:16 GMT
Gotta disagree. People didn't go easy on it. They liked it because it was good. The character moments were well done. Hence why the performances are getting so much acclaim, regardless of the blood. Like I said, it's Jackman and Stewarts' last. So the critics felt they should be easier on them this movie. It's sort of how they went easy on Dark Knight. Except Stewart didn't say it was his last until after critics saw it.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 24, 2017 19:19:16 GMT
Critics are human too, susceptible to human emotion. An actor who dies while filming a movie or right after will have an effect on how critics view that movie. A beloved actor making 1 last movie will also affect them. Now it may not affect them enough to change their opinions a whole much, but there's definitely going to be an impact .
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Post by politicidal on Mar 24, 2017 21:56:31 GMT
Agreed. Logan's strength was the character interactions and themes of the war-weary and fallen heroes. Even without the R-rating, that would still be there. Story doesn't matter to him. If it's rated R, it's the best movie since Citizen Kane.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 10:25:19 GMT
Critics are human too, susceptible to human emotion. An actor who dies while filming a movie or right after will have an effect on how critics view that movie. A beloved actor making 1 last movie will also affect them. Now it may not affect them enough to change their opinions a whole much, but there's definitely going to be an impact . So like what happened with The Dark Knight, The Battle of the Five Armies, Furious 7 and Star Trek Beyond?
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 25, 2017 12:33:22 GMT
Well, to be fair, The Dark Knight wasn't his last movie. Remember, he died while making The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 25, 2017 13:56:15 GMT
Well, to be fair, The Dark Knight wasn't his last movie. Remember, he died while making The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus. Yeah, but Dark Knight was a lot more hyped up than Terry Gilliams' and it had the last FULL performance of Ledger.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 27, 2017 13:27:10 GMT
Gotta disagree. People didn't go easy on it. They liked it because it was good. The character moments were well done. Hence why the performances are getting so much acclaim, regardless of the blood. Like I said, it's Jackman and Stewarts' last. So the critics felt they should be easier on them this movie. It's sort of how they went easy on Dark Knight. Like I said, they didn't. They enjoyed them.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 27, 2017 14:44:33 GMT
Like I said, it's Jackman and Stewarts' last. So the critics felt they should be easier on them this movie. It's sort of how they went easy on Dark Knight. Like I said, they didn't. They enjoyed them. If it wasn't for this being "The end of their story" or whatever, the movie would've been in the late 70s or early 80s. Then again, these are apparently the same critics that Disney is always bribing....so why is it okay for Fox Fans to enjoy this score but ignore any of MCU's?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 27, 2017 14:47:52 GMT
I'm not sure I understand. Are you talking about the setting of the movie?
I didn't say the movie wasn't about the end of their story. It clearly is. I'm saying, that's not the reason for the acclaim. It was well crafted and well acted. Hence, the praise.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 27, 2017 22:36:15 GMT
I'm not sure I understand. Are you talking about the setting of the movie? I didn't say the movie wasn't about the end of their story. It clearly is. I'm saying, that's not the reason for the acclaim. It was well crafted and well acted. Hence, the praise. If not for killing Xavier and Logan, I doubt the story would've been as well received.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 27, 2017 22:50:55 GMT
I do doubt it. The journey is just as important as the destination. Even without their deaths, it's a well crafted story with powerful moments.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 27, 2017 23:38:37 GMT
I do doubt it. The journey is just as important as the destination. Even without their deaths, it's a well crafted story with powerful moments. Without Xavier accidentally killing the X-Men, getting killed and then Logan himself dying against his younger clone....it would've gotten the same reception as The Wolverine.
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