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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 3:53:17 GMT
Wow, um, didn’t expect the Atom, or whatever he’s called, to turn into a giant. That’s really cool.
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Post by James on Jan 3, 2019 3:54:33 GMT
Wow, um, didn’t expect the Atom, or whatever he’s called, to turn into a giant. That’s really cool. Ant-Man, but close enough.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 3:57:21 GMT
Wow, um, didn’t expect the Atom, or whatever he’s called, to turn into a giant. That’s really cool. Ant-Man, but close enough. Isn’t there a hero called the Atom? But I should have known Ant-Man because I saw the ads for it. BTW: I didn’t need a reminder that Disney owns both Marvel and Star Wars–too cutesy by half. “Really old movie” hmph.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:18:28 GMT
I appreciate the more serious tone, as opposed to the gleeful blow-it-up romps that I’ve never exactly been fond of (like The Avengers). Not that I want gloom and dolor–just enough seriousness that death and destruction aren’t humorous.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:19:46 GMT
Not exactly sure what IM’s so angry about.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:22:05 GMT
Killed his mom? Is it a purposeful twist on the “Martha” mom thing from Batman v Superman?
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:23:21 GMT
Damn. That’s annoying because, up until that point, I’d been on Cap’s side emotionally. But if Bucky did kill all those people, he should be brought in and put on trial.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:32:22 GMT
It ends just like that? Gah. Not a huge fan of this one. I don’t like Cap’s decision in the end, after having agreed with him nearly the whole movie. And I don’t like that they’re all split up, or that Cap refuses to bring his pal in.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jan 3, 2019 4:44:40 GMT
Did you watch the post-credit??
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 3, 2019 4:48:12 GMT
I stopped at Age of Ultron. I have Ant Man and Civil War but they are on the backburner.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 4:52:15 GMT
Did you watch the post-credit?? I saw the one with them freezing Bucky like Han Solo in TESB (which is slightly better than letting him roam free, but it still puts justice in Cap’s hands, not a judge and jury’s). Is there another one?
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 3, 2019 5:08:10 GMT
The more I think about it, the more it reminds me of (of all things) After the Thin Man. A weird comparison, I know, but I rewatched the first Thin Man New Year’s Eve, so it’s on my mind. ***Major Spoilers for After the Thin Man*** In After, the killer is revealed to be an insane Jimmy Stewart, who hates Nora Charles’ cousin because she [the cousin] married someone else instead of him. The major problem is not with making the ever-likeable Stewart the killer but rather with the fact that there has been no indication of Jimmy’s lunacy throughout the entire movie. He suddenly changes on a dime to a raving fiend, when just a minute before he’d been a beloved friend of the family. Obviously, the Thin Man series is more concerned (thank heaven) with Nick and Nora’s banter and gags than with the mystery plots, but it’s just a bad screenwriting move. The more I write, the more I’m convinced that characters, even more so than plot-points, have to be consistent throughout the story. Even twists on character have to be consistent (for example, in our case there could have been clues to Jimmy’s madness and rage against the cousin). Or else it all becomes sly and cynical, sacrificing character for the sake of a twist in the tale. CA:CW, curiously enough, is much the same way. Throughout the flick, Cap has been fighting the good fight, as we know— and as is consistent with his character (including his refusal to sign the agreement/accord/whathaveyou). When he defends Bucky without evidence (but also without blind faith), he may not be right, as far as we know at that point, but he’s still acting as himself. Then he suddenly makes the decision to refuse to tell Stark that Bucky killed Stark’s mom, somehow blind to the obvious corollary that Stark would go nuts when he heard that, and also doesn’t abide by (small-d, obviously) democratic principle and let a judge and jury rule on the case (which, I hope, would exonerate Bucky because of the hypnotism when he’s tried). Judge and jury may not be the most expedient way, but they’re a key democratic principle nonetheless. And if there’s anything Cap is, he’s a proud exponent of American democracy and republicanism. To continue with the detective-story comparisons, his decision is just as troubling, in its own way, as Philo Vance playing judge, jury, and executioner—or, for that matter and bringing in a non-mystery source, the Musketeers doing the same thing (Dumas makes them—likeable characters—pay for that decision, too, in Twenty Years After). Perhaps it’s not a major deal, but it did (and does) bother me. It somewhat reminds me, to bring up another Thin Man reference, of the wildly inconsistent changes to Nick’s backstory in The Thin Man Goes Home. Nick in Andy Hardy-land—oy vey!
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Post by James on Jan 3, 2019 5:43:16 GMT
Ant-Man, but close enough. Isn’t there a hero called the Atom? Yes and he’s from DC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 1:28:48 GMT
Next week Nalkarj watches... Owl Boy and the Atom! As always, very enjoyable to read your thoughts on these movies. Do Infinity War next!
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 11:42:27 GMT
Killed his mom? Is it a purposeful twist on the “Martha” mom thing from Batman v Superman? The jokey airport clobber scene and the "I don't care he killed my mom" travesty killed this film for me and I never re-watched this. I can forgive the shoddily executed "You must save Martha", as it's basic idea (of joining forces and finding common ground to fight for the same thing) is very well rooted and in line with the two characters, despite their different approaches. But I will never for my life understand how - middle aged Ironman on a quest to make amends with Cap for the greater good - starts shooting and clobbering Cap - amidst a crisis-situation where they are played by the enemy - because of the a mind-washed guy (Bucky) who is a victim of Hydra himself - about a murder that happened decades ago he never talked about (conveniently shoehorned and filmed long ago). Also, why did the villain not just publish the video online or sent it per PM...? Why such a contrived plan to make them clobber? Horrible, contrived writing. I can still feel the cringe.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 11:45:19 GMT
Damn. That’s annoying because, up until that point, I’d been on Cap’s side emotionally. But if Bucky did kill all those people, he should be brought in and put on trial. Maybe, but he would be acquitted. Hydra abducted and brainwashed him with magic to an extent it was not him acting but the programming. He is a victim not a perp.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 3:13:58 GMT
Do you guys recommend watching Black Panther or Infinity War first? I’d like to see at least one before they’re taken off Netflix.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 3:16:58 GMT
I made up my mind to watch IW. Will live-blog, if you want.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 3:21:34 GMT
I never get Loki. It feels like the writers can never make up their minds on what to do with him. Admittedly, that’s somewhat close to the mythological source, but this is one source that should have been improved for the sake of developed character.
The tone so far is what I had expected of Ragnarok. It’s dark (tonally, not cinematically), and Thanos himself, character and CGI, is remarkable.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 3:24:57 GMT
I’m not sure what to feel here. I like the Hiddleston performance more than the Loki character, and I’m also unsure if he’s really dead—they’ve brought him back a bunch of times, despite what Thanos said.
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