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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 4, 2018 5:21:25 GMT
This has nothing to do with this board, but I just want to write it down here because I know No Morpho, Only Bánh mì and I were talking about The Phantom of the Opera here (and, well, the Theater board is as dead as a doornail). BATouttaheck knows I’m a big fan of composer-lyricist Stephen Sondheim; I recently watched the taped version of Sondheim’s Sweeney Todd with Angela Lansbury as Mrs. Lovett and George Hearn as Sweeney Todd. And I found it to be far superior to the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie adaptation that came out a few years ago. I just watched the taped version of Sondheim’s Into the Woods, and–God almighty, what’s wrong with musical-movies nowadays? I love Into the Woods–before I even knew what a musical was, my mom had this beautiful illustrated book that adapted the plot, from when she went to see the show in Manhattan, and I loved it as a kid–and I thought the recent movie adaptation was terrible. (OK, Meryl Streep and Emily Blunt were good in it, and Miss Blunt was unbelievably lovely. Other than them, just terrible.) The point is, the taped version of the stage-play is fantastic, funny, moving, and–it made me feel like I was there watching it in person. These shows are really great. But the people who adapt them for the movies apparently don’t know that.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 4, 2018 5:27:50 GMT
This has nothing to do with this board, but I just want to write it down here because I know No Morpho, Only Bánh mì and I were talking about The Phantom of the Opera here (and, well, the Theater board is as dead as a doornail). BATouttaheck knows I’m a big fan of composer-lyricist Stephen Sondheim; I recently watched the taped version of Sondheim’s Sweeney Todd with Angela Lansbury as Mrs. Lovett and George Hearn as Sweeney Todd. And I found it to be far superior to the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie adaptation that came out a few years ago. I just watched the taped version of Sondheim’s Into the Woods, and–God almighty, what’s wrong with musical-movies nowadays? I love Into the Woods–before I even knew what a musical was, my mom had this beautiful illustrated book that adapted the plot, from when she went to see the show in Manhattan, and I loved it as a kid–and I thought the recent movie adaptation was terrible. (OK, Meryl Streep and Emily Blunt were good in it, and Miss Blunt was unbelievably lovely. Other than them, just terrible.) The point is, the taped version of the stage-play is fantastic, funny, moving, and–it made me feel like I was there watching it in person. These shows are really great. But the people who adapt them for the movies apparently don’t know that. So true! Into the Woods was one of my favorite tapes growing up!!! I watched it more times than I should say. I had a major crush on Bernadette Peters because of that. I also have some strange affinity for some of the brutal parts (foot-cutting?) that I forgot til just now and may explain a few kinks... 🤔
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 4, 2018 5:32:59 GMT
So true! Into the Woods was one of my favorite tapes growing up!!! I watched it more times than I should say. I had a major crush on Bernadette Peters because of that.
I also have some strange affinity for some of the brutal parts (foot-cutting?) that I forgot til just now and may explain a few kinks… 🤔 How can you not? Though Cinderella (I’m not sure the actress’s name) is really cute too. I always remember the foot-cutting because Mom had to explain those parts to me. It’s actually probably what got me interested in the original Grimm Bros. tales. Happy to know you’ve seen it too–it’s superb, and the music is so good, and the plot and jokes are brilliant (I knew the narrator twist going in, and it still made me laugh).
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 4, 2018 5:45:21 GMT
So true! Into the Woods was one of my favorite tapes growing up!!! I watched it more times than I should say. I had a major crush on Bernadette Peters because of that.
I also have some strange affinity for some of the brutal parts (foot-cutting?) that I forgot til just now and may explain a few kinks… 🤔 How can you not? Though Cinderella (I’m not sure the actress’s name) is really cute too. I always remember the foot-cutting because Mom had to explain those parts to me. It’s actually probably what got me interested in the original Grimm Bros. tales. Happy to know you’ve seen it too–it’s superb, and the music is so good, and the plot and jokes are brilliant (I knew the narrator twist going in, and it still made me laugh). Do you watch Mozart in the Jungle? That show is the best. And she’s still got it! The dark comedy is superb! Who needs watered down “kid friendly” tales?
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 4, 2018 5:52:54 GMT
Do you watch Mozart in the Jungle? That show is the best. And she’s still got it! The dark comedy is superb! Who needs watered down “kid friendly” tales? Who, Bernadette? No, I’ve never heard of Mozart in the Jungle. What’s it about? She’s always great. Just like I knew Into the Woods before musicals or Sondheim or Broadway, I knew Bernadette Peters early on from Animaniacs! I mean, for the watered-down stuff I love early Disney, but people often forget a lot of early Disney is still super gruesome–the Witch transformations in Snow White and the donkeys on Pleasure Island in Pinocchio and all that. Bill Everson said that there was a cheerful sadism to Disney that was one of his films’ best features. I love fairy-tales–which, as we were discussing, may be a reason you and I like Gaiman.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 2:50:30 GMT
Is anyone here interested in a live-blog for Captain America: Civil War? I’m thinking of watching at least part of it now.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:16:05 GMT
Well, I’m watching. I’ll tell you what, it’s not at all like I’d been expecting so far. Should I be filled in on what’s happened? I saw The Winter Soldier but missed Age of Ultron. It’s nice to see the gang from TWS, though: I like these guys, including Owl-Boy (what my father nicknamed the guy with the wings when he saw Winter Solider).
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:24:18 GMT
As attractive as the Scarlet Witchy Woman is, I don’t think her magical powers quite comport with the realism of the Cap stories.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:28:06 GMT
Is this MIT professor related to Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex Luthor? Making Tony Stark a TED talk-esque speaker is a smart idea.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:33:42 GMT
Is the red alien his butler?
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2018 3:38:18 GMT
Well, I’m watching. I’ll tell you what, it’s not at all like I’d been expecting so far. Should I be filled in on what’s happened? I saw The Winter Soldier but missed Age of Ultron. It’s nice to see the gang from TWS, though: I like these guys, including Owl-Boy (what my father nicknamed the guy with the wings when he saw Winter Solider). . The butler first shows up in that.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:43:10 GMT
I wouldn’t have expected Stark to be the guy supporting this agreement.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 3:46:51 GMT
This funeral is beautifully shot.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2018 3:54:13 GMT
I wouldn’t have expected Stark to be the guy supporting this agreement. Again, Age of Ultron. Though since IM3 Stark has become something of an emotionally unstable idiot. But perhaps I'm too harsh.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 4:01:12 GMT
I wouldn’t have expected Stark to be the guy supporting this agreement. Again, Age of Ultron. Though since IM3 Stark has become something of an emotionally unstable idiot. But perhaps I'm too harsh. I liked IM3, but even then the Stark schtick began to wear thin for me, so “emotionally unstable idiot” works—unfortunately, as I still like Iron Man the best of all the MCU movies. I can more quickly see Cap not accepting the UN agreement, after the WS events, than I can see Stark embracing it. But, as you say, maybe that’s just because I didn’t see Age of Ultron—though it’s difficult to imagine the character from the three Iron Man movies embracing it so readily.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2018 4:08:06 GMT
Again, Age of Ultron. Though since IM3 Stark has become something of an emotionally unstable idiot. But perhaps I'm too harsh. I liked IM3, but even then the Stark schtick began to wear thin for me, so “emotionally unstable idiot” works—unfortunately, as I still like Iron Man the best of all the MCU movies. I can more quickly see Cap not accepting the UN agreement, after the WS events, than I can see Stark embracing it. But, as you say, maybe that’s just because I didn’t see Age of Ultron—though it’s difficult to imagine the character from the three Iron Man movies embracing it so readily. Well he feels guilty about creating Ultron who being an AI in a blockbuster naturally turns out to be pure evil. Ultron then basically in the climax lifts an entire country into the sky. Therefore, Stark felt in Civil War he needed a 'handler' or restrictions in some fashion as some form of punishment or penance.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 30, 2018 4:11:41 GMT
^^^Ah, that actually does help to explain it, politicidal. I’m pausing it for the night and will pick up tomorrow night. Thanks for chiming in.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2018 4:14:30 GMT
^^^Ah, that actually does help to explain it, politicidal . I’m pausing it for the night and will pick up tomorrow night. Thanks for chiming in. You're welcome!
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Post by merh on Dec 30, 2018 4:32:00 GMT
I liked IM3, but even then the Stark schtick began to wear thin for me, so “emotionally unstable idiot” works—unfortunately, as I still like Iron Man the best of all the MCU movies. I can more quickly see Cap not accepting the UN agreement, after the WS events, than I can see Stark embracing it. But, as you say, maybe that’s just because I didn’t see Age of Ultron—though it’s difficult to imagine the character from the three Iron Man movies embracing it so readily. Well he feels guilty about creating Ultron who being an AI in a blockbuster naturally turns out to be pure evil. Ultron then basically in the climax lifts an entire country into the sky. Therefore, Stark felt in Civil War he needed a 'handler' or restrictions in some fashion as some form of punishment or penance. The point was Ultron couldn't see the difference between saving the world or destroying it because he was too much like Stark. Stark wants to control everything. The reason he created Ultron was so his friends/family wouldn't die saving the world.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2018 4:42:19 GMT
Well he feels guilty about creating Ultron who being an AI in a blockbuster naturally turns out to be pure evil. Ultron then basically in the climax lifts an entire country into the sky. Therefore, Stark felt in Civil War he needed a 'handler' or restrictions in some fashion as some form of punishment or penance. The point was Ultron couldn't see the difference between saving the world or destroying it because he was too much like Stark. I'm aware of the finer details. I'm making light of Ultron falling into the "A.I. is a crapshoot" trope. But thanks for the refresher.
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