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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 18:24:21 GMT
Everything with the breath of life died (comma)
Not "but only land animals"
God wasn't illiterate, he created language.
Look... The Bible is either the word of God, or it's not, and you know, not literal, made up shit... You can't have it both ways.
Word of God = infallible. Made up shit = bollocks.
Choose🤔
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Post by Vegas on Aug 23, 2018 19:18:06 GMT
Everything with the breath of life died (comma) Not "but only land animals" God wasn't illiterate, he created language. Look... The Bible is either the word of God, or it's not, and you know, not literal, made up shit... You can't have it both ways. Word of God = infallible. Made up shit = bollocks. Choose🤔 Dude... You are clinging to more reality-denying bullshit than any theist that you think you're making fun of. Couldn't really be any clearer... You're "that means fish" is made-up shit.... Literal or not. Hell... If you want to be just plain fucking stupid literal about it.... While fish do have nostrils... They don't use them to breath. There is no "breath of life" in a fish's nostrils... That's mostly for land breathers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:34:21 GMT
Everything with the breath of life died (comma) Not "but only land animals" God wasn't illiterate, he created language. Look... The Bible is either the word of God, or it's not, and you know, not literal, made up shit... You can't have it both ways. Word of God = infallible. Made up shit = bollocks. Choose🤔 Dude... You are clinging to more reality-denying bullshit than any theist that you think you're making fun of. Couldn't really be any clearer... You're "that means fish" is made-up shit.... Literal or not. Hell... If you want to be just plain fucking stupid literal about it.... While fish do have nostrils... They don't use them to breath. There is no "breath of life" in a fish's nostrils... That's mostly for land breathers.
You're such a whiney little bitch.
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Post by Vegas on Aug 23, 2018 20:06:32 GMT
Dude... You are clinging to more reality-denying bullshit than any theist that you think you're making fun of. Couldn't really be any clearer... You're "that means fish" is made-up shit.... Literal or not. Hell... If you want to be just plain fucking stupid literal about it.... While fish do have nostrils... They don't use them to breath. There is no "breath of life" in a fish's nostrils... That's mostly for land breathers.
You're such a whiney little bitch. Maybe... But, you are definitely a fucking retard. ...and also probably an even bigger whiney bitch. At least... I'm not the one having to completely alter a story by making shit up and ignoring what's actually being said in order to make fun of it. Sooooooo…. Suck a dick, retard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 20:34:40 GMT
You're such a whiney little bitch. Maybe... But, you are definitely a fucking retard. ...and also probably an even bigger whiney bitch. At least... I'm not the one having to completely alter a story by making shit up and ignoring what's actually being said in order to make fun of it. Sooooooo…. Suck a dick, retard. You're still whining... Don't make me come and kick your ass.
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Post by Vegas on Aug 23, 2018 20:54:53 GMT
Maybe... But, you are definitely a fucking retard. ...and also probably an even bigger whiney bitch. At least... I'm not the one having to completely alter a story by making shit up and ignoring what's actually being said in order to make fun of it. Sooooooo…. Suck a dick, retard. You're still whining... Don't make me come and kick your ass.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 23, 2018 22:08:04 GMT
Science cannot solve issues in society, there are however many things it can show like the boiling point of water, the acceleration due to gravity, and things science cannot solve. I have not contradicted myself. Your statement: "Science can show people who think science can solve problems in society that they are mistaken, it can't."
Can science show they are mistaken or not? Can science show people who think science can solve problems in society that they are mistaken?
I am a big fan of science and always have been. I'm old. I grew up with the space program; Mercury, Gemini, Apollo. I was just short of six years old when Alan Shepard rode a Mercury capsule atop a Redstone rocket into space. I knew which astronauts were on each mission and what new thing each did. I've forgotten most of that. I had and still have a microscope and a telescope. I did not make my own telescope, but I considered getting supplies from the Edmund Scientific Company to do that. Of course I enjoy computing and know and use quite many computer languages. I enjoy solving problems in physics just for the fun of it. I suppose a lot of people are as fond of science as I am and for similar reasons. Not all of them however are very good at science themselves. Many Democrats are more fond of science than they are capable of it. I am also very religious. About my third year of elementary school while in a waiting room at the doctor's office (or dentist's, that's not the point. It wasn't my appointment. I was along because there was no sitter.) I saw an article in a magazine titled "We don't have bodies, we are bodies." I just "knew" that wasn't correct, or I for some reason decided it cannot be correct. I have always had a spiritual interpretation of reality since, and a distrust of medical doctors. Just as many Democrats are not really good at science, many Republicans are not really religious, especially as you might have guessed, Trump supporters. With the exception of that one magazine article I have seen religion and science as working together just fine all my life. I am however very disturbed by the political parties and their severe mishandling of religion and science. Although "science" is a wonderful thing and ordinarily "indisputable," popular notions of science are a problem. No one can argue that the boiling point of water is anything but what it is. No one argued over the gas laws or the laws of motion, since those are easily and repeatably confirmed. It would be great if that certainty could be extended to problems in society. My point here is that it is not possible. If everyone could agree that they want a birdhouse, science could recommend one that attracts a specific bird to control a specific harmful insect. When people cannot agree whether they want a birdhouse, a lawn sprinkler, or a badminton court, science is really useless. Most issues in society arise because people cannot agree what the problem is. A lot of people in both parties, and including Trump supporters, think religion is the problem and science is the solution. Their approach however is political, not religious or scientific. In fact "science," or rather popular notions of it, are the problem.
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Post by general313 on Aug 24, 2018 0:29:34 GMT
Interestingly, modern genetics can indeed identify the 'Mitochondrial Eve' (also mt-Eve, mt-MRCA) which is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (to be distinguished from just the most common ancestor per se) of all currently living humans, i.e., the most recent woman from whom all living humans descend, in an unbroken line purely through their mothers, and through the mothers of those mothers, back until all lines converge on one woman. There is also the "Y-chromosomal Adam", the most recent male-line common ancestor of all living people. However, unlike Biblical Adam and Eve there is no suggestion that these two lived at the same time or that they founded the entire species. We are just the last descendants standing. Just to say- 'Mitochondrial Eve' is an often misused term, especially by creationists. It doesn't mean that the supposed Eve was first creature in the species. Yes I was going to point that out but you already did it: the most recent common ancestor is not the only common ancestor, and the parents of the most recent common ancestor were surely also as human as the MRCA.
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Post by general313 on Aug 24, 2018 0:33:30 GMT
So....what did the lions eat for a year on Noah’s Ark? Maybe God dropped a crate of manna each day, and that detail was left out of the ship's log.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 24, 2018 12:42:58 GMT
captainbrycePeople like you always complain about scripture while having the caveat in bold. I always have to say that I'm not discussing this with you as if it's real. For some reason, & on a movie board site no less, ones are only assuming story discussions are non-fiction which is goofy. We get it. None of it is real. I'll spot you that, so spare yourself extra typing by removing that part and discussing it like fiction. It's not like the answer changes. You didn;t ask that. The question you asked was answered. My beliefs on it dont matter if there's an answer to it. Noah was told to pack enough food for him and all the critters which would include lions. If you think lions have a specific diet they must adhere to, then assume that if they survived, then they had that food. Boks would be 100,000 pages long if you ascribed the same detail to them as you do to a story that cover a couple of pages in the Bible. So as a trest to see how dificult it is to read the Bible, I typed Noah in Google and then proceeded to read starting at chapter 6 to chapter 9 which covers the whole Noah & flood account. It took about 10 minutes to read all the way through. However, not even 2 minutes had passed before I ran across this verse in chapter 6: But that aside...I realize its voluntary which is why I voluntarily responded. Evangelizing has nothing to do with talking to you in debate or curiosity. The verse you mentioned isn't even discussing evangelizing but I'm following it anyway. If only you would follow verse 16.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 24, 2018 18:12:55 GMT
So....what did the lions eat for a year on Noah’s Ark? Maybe God dropped a crate of manna each day, and that detail was left out of the ship's log. I’m other words, there’s no logical explanation for how they survived for that long a period without food, so it becomes necessary to guess an undocumented, supernatural reason?
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Post by general313 on Aug 24, 2018 18:29:01 GMT
Maybe God dropped a crate of manna each day, and that detail was left out of the ship's log. I’m other words, there’s no logical explanation for how they survived for that long a period without food, so it becomes necessary to guess an undocumented, supernatural reason? I wonder why, with an omnipotent god at your service, did Noah have to go to all the trouble to gather up animals into his Ark? Why couldn't God just recreate animals after the drowning, like he did "in the beginning"? Was it some sort of test for Noah?
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 24, 2018 18:34:45 GMT
People like you always complain about scripture while having the caveat in bold. Doubtful; as I never “complain about scripture”. I honestly have no idea what you are even saying here, so I can’t really comment. Well actually you provided a non answer. Saying they are food doesn’t address the “how” they acquired this food, what type of food it was, or where it came from, and you know that. I didn’t think I needed to dumb the question down this much, but apparently I was mistaken. “Food” is a very broad term. There are different kinds of food, and different animals need different kinds. The type of food lions need was meat. So where did this meat come from? That is not logical. The specific diet of lions is meat! Lions eat zebras, wildebeest, and antelopes. But they obviously wouldn’t have been able to eat any of the ones on the ark (since there was only one pair of each). So again, what did they eat? There is an old expression; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence! At the very least, and extraordinary claim should be explained in SOME level of detail as to make it logically plausible. So it is your belief then that Noah...what...slaughtered thousands of lambs and had them stored and preserved on the ark somehow for over a year to feed the lions? Is that what you believe happened? I didn’t say it did STRAW MAN!!!! You stated that it isn’t your responsibility to explain things to a non-believer who was curious. According to scripture, it is! I don’t follow that bullshit anymore. That’s your job! I’m just pointing out your hypocrisy when you fail to follow it. This is your belief system, not mine.
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