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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 28, 2018 19:28:42 GMT
On one hand, 2008 was the year that the MCU first began, in addition to being the year that TDK was released. On the other hand, 2012 was the year where the MCU officially became the influential franchise juggernaut that spawned the shared universe craze, in addition to being the year that Nolan’s Batman series came to an end. By all accounts, these were both pretty significant years for comic book movies as a whole, but which one would you say was a bigger deal?
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Post by politicidal on Aug 28, 2018 19:42:57 GMT
2008. It was the year that rescued the genre from its lowest point since Batman&Robin. Just a year prior, they had Ghost Rider, Spider Man 3, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 28, 2018 21:55:55 GMT
2012. This is the year that people realized interconnecting movie universes could actually exist. One day you'll have multiple movieverses from different studios and people will look back at 2012 and note it as the year when it all started.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 4:45:19 GMT
2012 every studio is still desperate to make their Avengers movie. I don't thihk there'd be anywhere near as many cbm's today if it wasn't for the Avengers.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 29, 2018 5:38:48 GMT
2012 every studio is still desperate to make their Avengers movie. I don't thihk there'd be anywhere near as many cbm's today if it wasn't for the Avengers. There were more CBMs before The Avengers than there are today. There were about 40 CBMs before The Avengers and have been about 30 CBMs after The Avengers. So The Avengers really didn't do anything special for CBMs. |
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 29, 2018 5:48:19 GMT
2012 every studio is still desperate to make their Avengers movie. I don't thihk there'd be anywhere near as many cbm's today if it wasn't for the Avengers. There were more CBMs before The Avengers than there are today. There were about 40 CBMs before The Avengers and have been about 30 CBMs after The Avengers. So The Avengers really didn't do anything special for CBMs. So you're telling me there have been 30 cbms in the 6 years since the Avengers but only 40 cbms in the more than 3 decades before the Avengers? Boy, you just put your foot in your mouth. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Aug 29, 2018 6:09:51 GMT
2012, because The Avengers became a cultural phenomenon, and really put Disney/Marvel on the map. The first movie to gross over $200 million in its 3 days! And other studios have tried and failed to simulate the shared universe, while Marvel has continued to perfected it.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 29, 2018 6:57:52 GMT
2012 every studio is still desperate to make their Avengers movie. I don't thihk there'd be anywhere near as many cbm's today if it wasn't for the Avengers. There were more CBMs before The Avengers than there are today. There were about 40 CBMs before The Avengers and have been about 30 CBMs after The Avengers. So The Avengers really didn't do anything special for CBMs. Everyone else says otherwise. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 7:16:12 GMT
There were more CBMs before The Avengers than there are today. There were about 40 CBMs before The Avengers and have been about 30 CBMs after The Avengers. So The Avengers really didn't do anything special for CBMs. So you're telling me there have been 30 cbms in the 6 years since the Avengers but only 40 cbms in the more than 3 decades before the Avengers? Boy, you just put your foot in your mouth.Yep. He proved my point better than I ever could. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 29, 2018 9:44:11 GMT
2008 as it was the year TDK was released. I can vividly remember the frenzy and hysteria about TDK. This was the high point in CBM filmmaking, before they became mass produced junk food (with a few exceptions like Watchmen, Kick Ass, Logan, WW etc). Everything after was just an encore.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 29, 2018 10:02:27 GMT
2012 for sure. Avengers and Dark Knight Rises exploded into the mainstream moreso than 2008.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 29, 2018 15:24:04 GMT
So you're telling me there have been 30 cbms in the 6 years since the Avengers but only 40 cbms in the more than 3 decades before the Avengers? Boy, you just put your foot in your mouth.Yep. He proved my point better than I ever could. Actually, I just proved my point even more. The 40+ CBMs before The Avengers only includes the CBMs that I've seen and doesn't include those I haven't seen, such as Blade, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, Watchmen, and many others. And of the 30 or so CBMs after The Avengers, about half were crappy CBMs made by MCU.
WB was making plenty of CBMs before The Avengers, Fox was making X-Men movies before The Avengers, and Sony was making Spider-Man movies before The Avengers. So really The Avengers haven't inspired people to make more CBMs and really didn't do anything special for CBMs. If anything, all The Avengers did was make audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs instead of high-quality CBMs like TDK.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 29, 2018 15:25:01 GMT
2008 as it was the year TDK was released. I can vividly remember the frenzy and hysteria about TDK. This was the high point in CBM filmmaking, before they became mass produced junk food (with a few exceptions like Watchmen, Kick Ass, Logan, WW etc). Everything after was just an encore. Agreed. 2008 was the peak for CBMs, before The Avengers made audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 29, 2018 15:27:22 GMT
2008 as it was the year TDK was released. I can vividly remember the frenzy and hysteria about TDK. This was the high point in CBM filmmaking, before they became mass produced junk food (with a few exceptions like Watchmen, Kick Ass, Logan, WW etc). Everything after was just an encore. Agreed. 2008 was the peak for CBMs, before The Avengers made audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs. I'm all DC Fan, brah. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 15:31:00 GMT
2008 as it was the year TDK was released. I can vividly remember the frenzy and hysteria about TDK. This was the high point in CBM filmmaking, before they became mass produced junk food (with a few exceptions like Watchmen, Kick Ass, Logan, WW etc). Everything after was just an encore. Agreed. 2008 was the peak for CBMs, before The Avengers made audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs. Audience's will always be smarter than you, DC fan. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 15:43:20 GMT
Yep. He proved my point better than I ever could. Actually, I just proved my point even more. The 40+ CBMs before The Avengers only includes the CBMs that I've seen and doesn't include those I haven't seen, such as Blad, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, Watchmen, and many others. And of the 30 or so CBMs after The Avengers, about half were crappy CBMs made by MCU.
WB was making plenty of CBMs before The Avengers, Fox was making X-Men movies before The Avengers, and Sony was making Spider-Man movies before The Avengers. So really The Avengers haven't inspired people to make more CBMs and really didn't do anything special for CBMs. If anything, all The Avengers did was make audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs instead of high-quality CBMs like TDK.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 29, 2018 15:47:50 GMT
I want to see Blad.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 29, 2018 16:12:49 GMT
Yep. He proved my point better than I ever could. Actually, I just proved my point even more. The 40+ CBMs before The Avengers only includes the CBMs that I've seen and doesn't include those I haven't seen, such as Blad, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, Watchmen, and many others. And of the 30 or so CBMs after The Avengers, about half were crappy CBMs made by MCU.
WB was making plenty of CBMs before The Avengers, Fox was making X-Men movies before The Avengers, and Sony was making Spider-Man movies before The Avengers. So really The Avengers haven't inspired people to make more CBMs and really didn't do anything special for CBMs. If anything, all The Avengers did was make audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs instead of high-quality CBMs like TDK.
Nah dude, you can't backpedal now. Using your own statistics, the average number of cbms since the Avengers is around 5 per year. The average number of cbms per year before the Avengers is nowhere near that number. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 17:00:17 GMT
Actually, I just proved my point even more. The 40+ CBMs before The Avengers only includes the CBMs that I've seen and doesn't include those I haven't seen, such as Blad, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Steel, Watchmen, and many others. And of the 30 or so CBMs after The Avengers, about half were crappy CBMs made by MCU.
WB was making plenty of CBMs before The Avengers, Fox was making X-Men movies before The Avengers, and Sony was making Spider-Man movies before The Avengers. So really The Avengers haven't inspired people to make more CBMs and really didn't do anything special for CBMs. If anything, all The Avengers did was make audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs instead of high-quality CBMs like TDK.
Nah dude, you can't backpedal now. Using your own statistics, the average number of cbms since the Avengers is around 5 per year. The average number of cbms per year before the Avengers is nowhere near that number. That's exactly what I meant. Batman v Superman, Justice League and Days of Future Past owe their existence to the Avengers. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 29, 2018 22:11:02 GMT
Agreed. 2008 was the peak for CBMs, before The Avengers made audiences tolerate crappy, cookie-cutter, formulaic CBMs. I'm all DC Fan, brah. So you're DC-Fan's sock? |
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