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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 27, 2017 16:34:03 GMT
tpfkar '#notall" You guys are the only one bringing up "all", like it has any meaning whatsoever. You guys are the ones talking about "Muslim Asians". Nope, that's just what you guys honk continuously and preemptively to try to immunize your condemnation of wide groups over the actions of criminals. Once again, all criminal activity should be subject to policing, and police using that as an excuse should be at a minimum terminated. It doesn't say anything about anybody else. Stretch yourself and try to give up the gross oversimplifications. There are many reasons for those kinds of trends, with both deep historical basis and current-day treatment. But what explanation are you offering for why certain minorities are overrepresented in certain crimes? it's all goodThere is a reason I do that. I do that beacuse I know people like you will appear and make the retarded "it not all " argument. We know it isn't all. Yes, because that is the community where the problem lays. And literally nobody has condemned "wide groups" nobody has condemned anyone except the people doing the things we comdemn. Again, the only person extending what we are saying to all Muslims is you, which says more about you than it does us. Try again. Are black people in the US over represented in the murder stats?
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 27, 2017 16:42:53 GMT
tpfkar Damn, that's convenient. Sure, with criminals and law enforcement. I suppose you need to re-re-read again. Try what again? wwb
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 27, 2017 17:55:41 GMT
tpfkar Damn, that's convenient. Sure, with criminals and law enforcement. I suppose you need to re-re-read again. Try what again? wwbNo, you're just entirely predictable. Right.....so why does it exist to a far larger extent in that community? No, you're very first contribution was this "....that fail to make their case that a whole class of people should be condemned by the miscreants in the group, " In response to Superdudes statemented of " So definitely not all Muslims but certainly I sizable and worrying minority. " Not at any point has anyone other than you framed this as a problem that all Muslims have. To answer the question. You just tacitly agreed with me, but you literally cannot bring yourself to say it.
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 27, 2017 18:27:08 GMT
tpfkar Sure, damn convenient that you can argue against what you say they're going to say that they never say. Damn if he could boil down like you he could save 2-3 pages/post. What was your op again? As for the second bit I can only say, even more delusional. wwb
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 27, 2017 21:42:32 GMT
tpfkar Sure, damn convenient that you can argue against what you say they're going to say that they never say. Damn if he could boil down like you he could save 2-3 pages/post. What was your op again? As for the second bit I can only say, even more delusional. wwbExcept you did say it. So there's that.... Evasion noted. Did it say all Muslim rape children? So answer the question. Are Black Americans hugely over represented in homicide figures?
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 27, 2017 22:08:03 GMT
tpfkar I believes you be trippin' with your "I'll just argue with what I know you're going to say", because I didn't make any such argument. That's your dwelling on the irrelevant that started in your op. Goober antics noted. No evasion involved. You're just playing more bizarre pretend with what's been said. Or maybe it's just that "tacit" thing again but in reverse. You framed the question around "all". Nobody but you guys have gone on about "all" at all, the irrelevant dive that it is. You answer your own tangent questions and if I feel like commenting I will. Using your words, again, what explanation are you offering for why certain minorities are overrepresented in certain crimes? wwb
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 29, 2017 14:15:24 GMT
tpfkar I believes you be trippin' with your "I'll just argue with what I know you're going to say", because I didn't make any such argument. That's your dwelling on the irrelevant that started in your op. Goober antics noted. No evasion involved. You're just playing more bizarre pretend with what's been said. Or maybe it's just that "tacit" thing again but in reverse. You framed the question around "all". Nobody but you guys have gone on about "all" at all, the irrelevant dive that it is. You answer your own tangent questions and if I feel like commenting I will. Using your words, again, what explanation are you offering for why certain minorities are overrepresented in certain crimes? wwb But you did make that argument......You actually did, it's back up there. I've quoted you making it. Are you on drugs? I didn't ask a question in the OP. Are you on drugs? Evasion noted. The reasons are not relevant to the question. Are black Americans over represented in the homicide stats, yes or no?
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 29, 2017 14:34:42 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar. You really should stop saying that when you think "framed the question" means the same as "asked a question". Goober antics noted. If you want to give your "explanation for why certain minority are massively over represented in certain crimes" I'll be glad to read it and comment on it. Other than that, I don't care what irrelevant questions that you ask but won't answer yourself. wwb
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 1, 2017 23:09:48 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar. You really should stop saying that when you think "framed the question" means the same as "asked a question". Goober antics noted. If you want to give your "explanation for why certain minority are massively over represented in certain crimes" I'll be glad to read it and comment on it. Other than that, I don't care what irrelevant questions that you ask but won't answer yourself. wwbThats the best you can do after I have quoted you making the argument I knew somebody would make? I've quoted you doing it and you then call me a liar? Have you been spending time with Ada? Which question are you referring to ? One you invented? One you dreamed? One that only happened in your head? Again, what question have I asked that I won't answer? Are black Americans over represented in homicide stats? Yes, yes they are. Your turn, attempt to answer that question...... Oh, guess what.....Two further raids on child sex trafficking gangs in the UK. Does you want to guess which community 16 of the 17 men arrested come from? Thats right, the Jews, oh wait no it wasn't them. So do you now want to talk about the Muslims who aren't sex offenders and ignore the massive problem the community evidently has?
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 1, 2017 23:33:42 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar and a laughable one at that, much like your twin in tactic, Ada. You can keep pretending "frame the question" is asking a question every couple of days when you come back, you won't sound any less foolish each time. You can continue to avoid offering your own "explanation for why certain minority are massively over represented in certain crimes" for as long as you like. I don't mind re-highlighting it. What do you posit this says about Asians and Muslims as opposed to Jews? wwb
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 5, 2017 1:19:47 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar and a laughable one at that, much like your twin in tactic, Ada. You can keep pretending "frame the question" is asking a question every couple of days when you come back, you won't sound any less foolish each time. You can continue to avoid offering your own "explanation for why certain minority are massively over represented in certain crimes" for as long as you like. I don't mind re-highlighting it. What do you posit this says about Asians and Muslims as opposed to Jews? wwb I've literally quoted you making the argument I said you did. You can pretend it didn't happen all you like, but dude, I've quoted you making it.... To "frame a question" there needs to be an actual question. Basic stuff really. So tell us all, what question am I asking and how am I framing it? Prediction, usual evasion. I'll explain why I think it is, when you acknowledge it's a problem. See where this is going yet? That there is something within that community that elevates this type of crime. Now do go on to talk about Muslims that are not sex offenders.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 5, 2017 1:41:54 GMT
tpfkar You've literally quoted nothing of the sort. You're just literally an easy liar. For the not drippingly dishonest or bonecrushingly stupid, as in subject. #notall. And I'm familiar with your freewheeling "predictions".
I knew where you were going to go from the beginning. I just have the basic sense not to post to "predictions". And still, I don't care about your irrelevant questions that you field but won't answer yourself. See where that's gone yet? Likely not for n more posts, I'm sure. Other than some criminals? Now you go and moan some more about things nobody but you has suggested. At least within a couple of days. I just KNOW you're going to say that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 9:02:37 GMT
Look at this post on the politics board Thorshairspray: imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/17109/muslims-west-destroyedDespite the OP's inflammatory thread title they go on to produce survey after survey poll after poll about the socially regressive,homophobic,misogynistic of a large proportion of British Muslims. The content of the responses and the lack of them are very telling,it's exactly the same dynamic that played out in this thread. Why is it that people who usually pay attention to facts and polls and lambast others for inflammatory content free rhetoric,are completely unwilling to acknowledge them when it comes to Islam. It defies all logic and reason.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 9, 2017 11:56:05 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar, and a bit of a cowardly one at that. You want to have a discussion, stop making politics board-style rabidly-slanted posts. There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 12:43:13 GMT
tpfkar You're a liar, and a bit of a cowardly one at that. You want to have a discussion, stop making politics board-style rabidly-slanted posts. There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).How about you show me where I've lied. Then maybe we can discuss the surveys and poll results regarding British Muslims and how every survey clearly shows that a large proportion hold socially regressive homophobic,misogynistic views that are incompatible with British secular cultural values in 2017. That's the point you and others simply will not address. And if my views come across slanted that's because the evidence of a high Muslim population and what it's done is all around me,something I'm sure you have no experience of. The Muslim population of my town is 20%. What's yours? And when a Muslim gets arrested on your doorstep for terrorist offences relating to the London terror attacks perhaps you might share my concern. When someone who may have had intentions of killing you is sleeping less than 400 metres from where you,your partner and child live,then just maybe you begin to ask these questions. This is not an abstract threat to me cupcakes.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 9, 2017 13:09:54 GMT
tpfkar "I am.fucking sick to death of people trying to do everything they can to stop us asking these questions,by shutting down the debate with cries of racist.""it's exactly the same dynamic that played out in this thread". Another one where you pretend that I didn't highlight it in the last post. How about you reply to posts you walk away from instead of making ridiculously slanted sideways accusations? What's your suggestion to address this? And there are gobs of those views all over the place here, sometimes even being the norm. Then expect to have both your slant and your continuous preemptive accusations responded to. Sure, about what's going on with the terrorist. There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 16:57:47 GMT
How about you don't call me a liar and then produce quotes that don't relate to me lying. Before we can even begin to address it there needs to be an acknowledgement by certain politicians and members of the public that these views exist in large numbers in the British Muslim community. Before we can talk solutions we must first acknowledge that there is a problem to be addressed,and certain people will do everything they can to avoid this fact,cries of racist and islamophobe all calculated to shut down the discussion. Are you pretending to be impartial cupcakes? Don't pretend like you don't come at this discussion without your own slant. Respond as you like but the next time you call me a liar and fail to produce evidence of such our conversation will be at an end. And before he was a terrorist he was a Muslim and one of the reasons he became a terrorist was because of the teachings of the Qu'ran. This Muslim terrorist is a fruit of the poisoned tree that is Islam. In it's purest form Islam is an intolerant,misogynistic,homophobic,anti-democratic violent religion that brutalises those that oppose it and it's own adherents who aren't sufficiently pious enough. One only needs to look at the birthplace of Islam Saudi Arabia to see an example of this. The hope was that Muslims born in Europe and immigrants would move away from this thinking when exposed to secular western values. That strategy has largely failed. Muslims have retained many of their hateful and bigoted views as evidenced by survey after survey poll after poll and the increasing number of terrorist attacks. Here's a simple equation: More Muslims=More homophobia,misogyny,and more terrorist attacks. That's not the country I want my daughter to grow up in and I'm far from alone in thinking this way.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 9, 2017 17:29:36 GMT
tpfkar How about I continue to point out your rank lies as I have whenever you bark them out? I don't think you can have "certain politicians" do anything in particular. What exactly the views are and what they mean would need to be examined in a poll-by-poll manner, as opposed to massive dumps and parries to statements that aren't backed up when looking closely. A bigger problem in this thread is actual people preemptively crying "cries of racist and islamophobe" all calculated to shut down the discussion. What are you babbling about now, superdude. You're a liar again in this latest post, blatantly so. I'll point it out whenever you do it and I feel like it. You've already got 'em there, so again, what would you like to do with them? There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 17:34:18 GMT
tpfkar How about I continue to point out your rank lies as I have whenever you bark them out? I don't think you can have "certain politicians" do anything in particular. What exactly the views are and what they mean would need to be examined in a poll-by-poll manner, as opposed to massive dumps and parries to statements that aren't backed up when looking closely. A bigger problem in this thread is actual people preemptively crying "cries of racist and islamophobe" all calculated to shut down the discussion. What are you babbling about now, superdude. You're a liar again in this latest post, blatantly so. I'll point it out whenever you do it and I feel like it. You've already got 'em there, so again, what would you like to do with them? There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).You've called me liar again in this post without providing a shred of evidence. Conversation over.
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Post by blade on Apr 9, 2017 17:44:17 GMT
tpfkar How about I continue to point out your rank lies as I have whenever you bark them out? I don't think you can have "certain politicians" do anything in particular. What exactly the views are and what they mean would need to be examined in a poll-by-poll manner, as opposed to massive dumps and parries to statements that aren't backed up when looking closely. A bigger problem in this thread is actual people preemptively crying "cries of racist and islamophobe" all calculated to shut down the discussion. What are you babbling about now, superdude. You're a liar again in this latest post, blatantly so. I'll point it out whenever you do it and I feel like it. You've already got 'em there, so again, what would you like to do with them? There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).Nice job rabbit.
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