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Post by sostie on Aug 31, 2018 10:51:15 GMT
It was better than I could have ever expected an adaptation of that comic to be. Pretty spot on casting too, and the opening credit sequence is one of the greatest.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 13:41:41 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre (8/10). Mature and full of substance and themes. For me it ranks alongside TDK, Logan, WW etc. Not seen the (allegedly even better) Director's Cut yet. I'm going to go off a limb and say you never read the graphic novel. Because as an adaption, the film fails on every level. Recreating a panel-to-panel on screen isn't an adaption. And just because it's R-rating and has blood and sex in it, it's not mature. It's far from it. The Dark Knight is far more mature than Watchmen will ever be. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 14:43:58 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre (8/10). Mature and full of substance and themes. For me it ranks alongside TDK, Logan, WW etc. Not seen the (allegedly even better) Director's Cut yet. I'm going to go off a limb and say you never read the graphic novel. Because as an adaption, the film fails on every level. Recreating a panel-to-panel on screen isn't an adaption. And just because it's R-rating and has blood and sex in it, it's not mature. It's far from it. The Dark Knight is far more mature than Watchmen will ever be. sure, pal, and that's like your opinion. That aside, this GN was considered "unfilmable". There were several attempts before that failed in production hell stage already. And LO and BEHOLD: Snyder did it! And he did it astoundingly well considering the complex sorce material.
Btw you need not "go off a limb", I told several times that I did not read the GN. But, hold the press!, in the meantime I did do some nerd-homework and checked out the differences: And for the most part I greatly prefer how the film implemented it. Especially replacing the alien-squid falling onto the city (that would have RUINED the gravitas of the film), or the cumbersome pirate side-story that feels quite redundant and only reflects the villain's dilemma, or that the WM having no powers except Manhatten. Only thing I though was better was that the GN-villain was a bit more fleshed out.
Lol at not "mature". This film has adult themes like the guilt of a man for destroying his family and abandoning his human values, people re-finding themselves again in their passion and vocation, the regulation and prohibition of vigilantism, the question of morals such as scrificing many for the benefit of the whole. And it has Rorschach! QED
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 15:04:16 GMT
I'm going to go off a limb and say you never read the graphic novel. Because as an adaption, the film fails on every level. Recreating a panel-to-panel on screen isn't an adaption. And just because it's R-rating and has blood and sex in it, it's not mature. It's far from it. The Dark Knight is far more mature than Watchmen will ever be. sure, pal, and that's like your opinion. That aside, this GN was considered "unfilmable". There were several attempts before that failed in production hell stage already. And LO and BEHOLD: Snyder did it! And he did it astoundingly well considering the complex sorce material.
Btw you need not "go off a limb", I told several times that I did not read the GN. But, hold the press!, in the meantime I did do some nerd-homework and checked out the differences: And for the most part I greatly prefer how the film implemented it. Especially replacing the alien-squid falling onto the city (that would have RUINED the gravitas of the film), or the cumbersome pirate side-story that feels quite redundant and only reflects the villain's dilemma, or that the WM having no powers except Manhatten. Only thing I though was better was that the GN-villain was a bit more fleshed out.
Lol at not "mature". This film has adult themes like the guilt of a man for destroying his family and abandoning his human values, people re-finding themselves again in their passion and vocation, the regulation and prohibition of vigilantism, the question of morals such as scrificing many for the benefit of the whole. And it has Rorschach! QED
Just because Snyder was able to make a film called "Watchmen" doesn't mean it's really filmable. He made a story called "Watchmen" that used the names of characters from the story, but it's not the "Watchmen" story. You like the film for the wrong reason. As a film alone, sure it has nice visual and compentently made and decent performance, but none of it really means anything. It's a sexed up, hyperstylized cartoon with zero context. All those themes are hardly touched upon and are pretty much undermined by unneccary violence and blood and sex. Again, just because it has an R-rating and has boobs in it, doesn't mean it's mature. One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys. Much like BvS, Snyder made this film with the mindset of a priapic teenager. The only real definite message you get out of this film in order to get a hard-on for a woman is beating up criminals. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 15:12:46 GMT
sure, pal, and that's like your opinion. That aside, this GN was considered "unfilmable". There were several attempts before that failed in production hell stage already. And LO and BEHOLD: Snyder did it! And he did it astoundingly well considering the complex sorce material.
Btw you need not "go off a limb", I told several times that I did not read the GN. But, hold the press!, in the meantime I did do some nerd-homework and checked out the differences: And for the most part I greatly prefer how the film implemented it. Especially replacing the alien-squid falling onto the city (that would have RUINED the gravitas of the film), or the cumbersome pirate side-story that feels quite redundant and only reflects the villain's dilemma, or that the WM having no powers except Manhatten. Only thing I though was better was that the GN-villain was a bit more fleshed out.
Lol at not "mature". This film has adult themes like the guilt of a man for destroying his family and abandoning his human values, people re-finding themselves again in their passion and vocation, the regulation and prohibition of vigilantism, the question of morals such as scrificing many for the benefit of the whole. And it has Rorschach! QED
Just because Snyder was able to make a film called "Watchmen" doesn't mean it's really filmable. He made a story called "Watchmen" that used the names of characters from the story, but it's not the "Watchmen" story. You like the film for the wrong reason. As a film alone, sure it has nice visual and compentently made and decent performance, but none of it really means anything. It's a sexed up, hyperstylized cartoon with zero context. All those themes are hardly touched upon and are pretty much undermined by unneccary violence and blood and sex. Again, just because it has an R-rating and has boobs in it, doesn't mean it's mature. One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys. Much like BvS, Snyder made this film with the mindset of a priapic teenager. The only real definite message you get out of this film in order to get a hard-on for a woman is beating up criminals. wow, just wow. Did we see the same film.
You do know what the Rorschach test is, right?
Maybe what you see in this film is more revealing about you than about the film.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 15:24:01 GMT
Just because Snyder was able to make a film called "Watchmen" doesn't mean it's really filmable. He made a story called "Watchmen" that used the names of characters from the story, but it's not the "Watchmen" story. You like the film for the wrong reason. As a film alone, sure it has nice visual and compentently made and decent performance, but none of it really means anything. It's a sexed up, hyperstylized cartoon with zero context. All those themes are hardly touched upon and are pretty much undermined by unneccary violence and blood and sex. Again, just because it has an R-rating and has boobs in it, doesn't mean it's mature. One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys. Much like BvS, Snyder made this film with the mindset of a priapic teenager. The only real definite message you get out of this film in order to get a hard-on for a woman is beating up criminals. wow, just wow. Did we see the same film.
You do know what the Rorschach test is, right?
Maybe what you see in this film is more revealing about you than about the film.
It certainly reveals a lot about you that you think an R-rating with unnecessary blood and gore and sex and nudity automatically equals "mature". |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 15:30:08 GMT
wow, just wow. Did we see the same film.
You do know what the Rorschach test is, right?
Maybe what you see in this film is more revealing about you than about the film.
It certainly reveals a lot about you that you think an R-rating with unnecessary blood and gore and sex and nudity automatically equals "mature". That's another Rorschach-ian straw man. You are the one obsessive with "blood and gore and sex and nudity". I never mentioned any of that.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 31, 2018 15:32:33 GMT
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 15:33:57 GMT
It certainly reveals a lot about you that you think an R-rating with unnecessary blood and gore and sex and nudity automatically equals "mature". That's another Rorschach-ian straw man. You are the one obsessive with "blood and gore and sex and nudity". I never mentioned any of that.
I mentioned it because that's all the film is and there's zero context to any of it. I have seen PG films that are more mature than Watchmen and had far more stronger themes. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 31, 2018 15:48:03 GMT
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Post by Lee on Aug 31, 2018 16:40:16 GMT
It's a good movie if you're stupid. For a primitive neanderthal like you yes. For intelligent people not. |
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Post by James on Aug 31, 2018 16:47:46 GMT
I've only seen the director's cut. Good film from what I saw.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 31, 2018 17:04:25 GMT
It's a good movie if you're stupid. For a primitive neanderthal like you yes. For intelligent people not. Erm... Thank you? |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 31, 2018 17:32:10 GMT
Zack Snyder ruined Watchmen, Superman, Batman and the Justice League.
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Post by damngumby on Aug 31, 2018 18:17:53 GMT
One of my top ten superhero movies.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 31, 2018 18:28:12 GMT
All Watchmen the comic did was take themes from various movies (like Fail Safe, Manchurian Candidate, Colossus the Forbin Project, Dirty Harry, Outer Limits etc)and apply them to the superhero genre which was intended as a juvenile literature.
If you have seen a lot of movies it is not particularly groundbreaking thematically or anything else.
As a self-examination of superheroes, the comic series Astro City is much better without the pretentiousness.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 19:29:38 GMT
sure, pal, and that's like your opinion. That aside, this GN was considered "unfilmable". There were several attempts before that failed in production hell stage already. And LO and BEHOLD: Snyder did it! And he did it astoundingly well considering the complex sorce material.
Btw you need not "go off a limb", I told several times that I did not read the GN. But, hold the press!, in the meantime I did do some nerd-homework and checked out the differences: And for the most part I greatly prefer how the film implemented it. Especially replacing the alien-squid falling onto the city (that would have RUINED the gravitas of the film), or the cumbersome pirate side-story that feels quite redundant and only reflects the villain's dilemma, or that the WM having no powers except Manhatten. Only thing I though was better was that the GN-villain was a bit more fleshed out.
Lol at not "mature". This film has adult themes like the guilt of a man for destroying his family and abandoning his human values, people re-finding themselves again in their passion and vocation, the regulation and prohibition of vigilantism, the question of morals such as scrificing many for the benefit of the whole. And it has Rorschach! QED
Just because Snyder was able to make a film called "Watchmen" doesn't mean it's really filmable. He made a story called "Watchmen" that used the names of characters from the story, but it's not the "Watchmen" story. You like the film for the wrong reason. As a film alone, sure it has nice visual and compentently made and decent performance, but none of it really means anything. It's a sexed up, hyperstylized cartoon with zero context. All those themes are hardly touched upon and are pretty much undermined by unneccary violence and blood and sex. Again, just because it has an R-rating and has boobs in it, doesn't mean it's mature. One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys. Much like BvS, Snyder made this film with the mindset of a priapic teenager. The only real definite message you get out of this film in order to get a hard-on for a woman is beating up criminals. You found that rape scene sexy?!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you? Obviously you are one of those horny teenage boys and you even admitted all you got out of the movie was rape scenes turn you on and the idea of beating up some other guys is even more of a turn on for you. Get some help kid. Your sick twisted ideas of sexuality are NOT normal despite what your parents seem to have taught you. I shudder to think how they "taught" you. |
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 19:39:13 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre (8/10). Mature and full of substance and themes. For me it ranks alongside TDK, Logan, WW etc. Not seen the (allegedly even better) Director's Cut yet. I'm going to go off a limb and say you never read the graphic novel. You're going off a limb? That means you plummeted to the ground and crashed in a disastrous way. That is apt. I think Tristan is on to something when he mentions you are indeed revealing more than you intended with these posts. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 19:39:48 GMT
Just because Snyder was able to make a film called "Watchmen" doesn't mean it's really filmable. He made a story called "Watchmen" that used the names of characters from the story, but it's not the "Watchmen" story. You like the film for the wrong reason. As a film alone, sure it has nice visual and compentently made and decent performance, but none of it really means anything. It's a sexed up, hyperstylized cartoon with zero context. All those themes are hardly touched upon and are pretty much undermined by unneccary violence and blood and sex. Again, just because it has an R-rating and has boobs in it, doesn't mean it's mature. One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys. Much like BvS, Snyder made this film with the mindset of a priapic teenager. The only real definite message you get out of this film in order to get a hard-on for a woman is beating up criminals. You found that rape scene sexy?!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you? Obviously you are one of those horny teenage boys and you even admitted all you got out of the movie was rape scenes turn you on and the idea of beating up some other guys is even more of a turn on for you. Get some help kid. Your sick twisted ideas of sexuality are NOT normal despite what your parents seem to have taught you. I shudder to think how they "taught" you. You misread dude. I said it was shot in a sexual way, when it's not supposed to be. I never said I found it sexy. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 19:41:03 GMT
I'm going to go off a limb and say you never read the graphic novel. You're going off a limb? That means you plummeted to the ground and crashed in a disastrous way. That is apt. I think Tristan is on to something when he mentions you are indeed revealing more than you intended with these posts. Well when you figure that out, feel free to enlighten me about that. |
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