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Post by fartyfartsalot on Aug 31, 2018 1:46:33 GMT
Been meaning to give it a watch
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Post by politicidal on Aug 31, 2018 3:29:26 GMT
I've only seen pieces of it.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 31, 2018 3:31:46 GMT
No. It’s a great film.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 4:32:24 GMT
No. Read the book instead.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 4:39:51 GMT
Yes. Watch it soon.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 4:46:05 GMT
No. Read the book instead. Many of the scenes are lifted straight from the comics. Why do you not like the movie but like the comic?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 5:03:12 GMT
No. Read the book instead. Many of the scenes are lifted straight from the comics. Why do you not like the movie but like the comic? Snyder's direction is all wrong for the tone of the comic. It's like if Michael Bay directed Unforgiven. That, and half the cast is sh*t while the makeup is SNL quality.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 5:24:43 GMT
Many of the scenes are lifted straight from the comics. Why do you not like the movie but like the comic? Snyder's direction is all wrong for the tone of the comic. It's like if Michael Bay directed Unforgiven. That, and half the cast is sh*t while the makeup is SNL quality. Well deserved accolades aside, the comics are still about guys in underwear beating up other guys in underwear. Alan Moore is brilliant but his pompous disdain for any and all adaptations of his work is ridiculous. Don't drink his kool aid. Lest you forget what happens when someone tries to make a comic book movie into an art house "film" go and watch the first Hulk. Out of curiosity, did you like the adaptations of From Hell or V for Vendetta?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 5:44:21 GMT
Snyder's direction is all wrong for the tone of the comic. It's like if Michael Bay directed Unforgiven. That, and half the cast is sh*t while the makeup is SNL quality. Out of curiosity, did you like the adaptations of From Hell or V for Vendetta? I never saw From Hell but I absolutely love V For Vendetta, so I'm not being blinded by anything Moore has said about Watchmen. What little he could say when he hasn't seen it. I have. What if I turned on The Dark Knight instead?
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 31, 2018 5:44:52 GMT
No it's crud. The book is a little better but not by much.
It lacks the cinematic treatment it could merit as a knock off of well known super heroes, and because the source material is so ridiculously dour, it isn't any fun-which is what you should expect from a superhero story.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 5:55:10 GMT
Out of curiosity, did you like the adaptations of From Hell or V for Vendetta? I never saw From Hell but I absolutely love V For Vendetta, so I'm not being blinded by anything Moore has said about Watchmen. What little he could say when he hasn't seen it. I have. What if I turned on The Dark Knight instead? You would enjoy a great movie. Can we agree on that? Are you suggesting The Dark Knight is an art house film? That's a bit of a stretch.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 6:10:11 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre (8/10). Mature and full of substance and themes.
For me it ranks alongside TDK, Logan, WW etc.
Not seen the (allegedly even better) Director's Cut yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 6:14:49 GMT
I never saw From Hell but I absolutely love V For Vendetta, so I'm not being blinded by anything Moore has said about Watchmen. What little he could say when he hasn't seen it. I have. What if I turned on The Dark Knight instead? You would enjoy a great movie. Can we agree on that? Are you suggesting The Dark Knight is an art house film? That's a bit of a stretch. Well, neither would Watchmen have been if it were directed by someone other than a manchild. You can make a serious, reflective superhero film without it being Hulk. And what makes Watchmen a bad movie completely independent of the book is that it slavishly kept those serious, reflective ideas sandwiched between fetishized violence and Snyder koolisms. If he had just abandoned any pretense of making an intelligent movie, as he had done when he tossed Romero's social commentary out the window in his Dawn of the Dead remake, at least it'd be its own thing and not a confused mess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 6:17:00 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre ( 8/10) Now I find your 6.5 for The Last Jedi even more confusing.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 31, 2018 6:20:43 GMT
It's a good movie if you're stupid.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 6:28:17 GMT
It's a great movie, IMO a genre master piece that transcends the genre ( 8/10) Now I find your 6.5 for The Last Jedi even more confusing. Then you will be pleased to hear that I have actually lowered the TLJ rating to 6/10 vis-a-vis 3.5/10 for TFA. TLJ is not as unoriginal as TFA, but TLJ replaces originality and creativity with subversion, which however often ends up in perversion. There is only one George Lucas.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 6:34:45 GMT
It's a good movie if you're stupid. Aren't you one of those silly mcu obsessed weirdos? Why are so many of y'all pedophile enablers?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 31, 2018 8:56:02 GMT
It's a good movie if you're stupid. and it's even a great movie if you are smart.
But glad you liked it Hobo.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 31, 2018 9:55:46 GMT
It's a great film and a good adaption. If you can watch the directors cut, it's definitely superior to the theatrical version.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 31, 2018 10:06:38 GMT
You would think because I love the book, I'd love the movie. For most of the of the movie it's not an adaptation. It's a panel to shot recreation. I'm not mad at the ending changes either. That made sense. For the most of the movie it feels hollow. And giving the vigilantes super human strength undercut the message that these are normal humans fighting crime. Look at every fight they deal super human damage and show them have super human strength/reactions/etc just to make the fights look cool. Hell the Comedian fight at the beginning is like two mid level powered superhero's fighting and Comedian was in his late 60's.
The acting was hit or miss. Most of Rorschach's scenes masked (which is hard) and unmasked was superb. I actually busted out laughing at the Comedian crying scene with Morloch. It was so bad. Malin Ackerman can't act her way out of a wet paper bag.
For the most part you didn't feel like these were people. It felt like they were paper cut outs.
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