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Post by poelzig on Aug 31, 2018 19:57:13 GMT
You found that rape scene sexy?!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you? Obviously you are one of those horny teenage boys and you even admitted all you got out of the movie was rape scenes turn you on and the idea of beating up some other guys is even more of a turn on for you. Get some help kid. Your sick twisted ideas of sexuality are NOT normal despite what your parents seem to have taught you. I shudder to think how they "taught" you. You misread dude. I said it was shot in a sexual way, when it's not supposed to be. I never said I found it sexy. "One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys." I didn't find that scene sexy at all. I found it disturbing and upsetting. You are the one who said he thought it was "literally" "sexy". Snyder didn't say he shot it that way. He allowed the viewer to interpret it how they wanted. In fact wasn't this scene another that followed the comic very closely? Are you suggesting Moore also finds rape a turn on? Because I didn't get that feeling. On a side note I have the entire series in it's first run in mint and nm condition if anyone wants to start the bidding. The first and last issue are autographed by Moore and Gibbons. Gibbons signed for free. I had to give Moore some mescaline and a quarter of super silver haze to get him to sign.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 31, 2018 20:33:23 GMT
You misread dude. I said it was shot in a sexual way, when it's not supposed to be. I never said I found it sexy. "One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys." I didn't find that scene sexy at all. I found it disturbing and upsetting. You are the one who said he thought it was "literally" "sexy". Snyder didn't say he shot it that way. He allowed the viewer to interpret it how they wanted. In fact wasn't this scene another that followed the comic very closely? Are you suggesting Moore also finds rape a turn on? Because I didn't get that feeling. On a side note I have the entire series in it's first run in mint and nm condition if anyone wants to start the bidding. The first and last issue are autographed by Moore and Gibbons. Gibbons signed for free. I had to give Moore some mescaline and a quarter of super silver haze to get him to sign. Once again, I never said it was sexy. And regardless of what Snyder says his intent was with that scene, he's a music video director, and shot the scene in a sexual way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 21:01:09 GMT
Been meaning to give it a watch I liked it quite a bit. Some interesting twists and takes on the Superhero thing, interesting story, actors are all decent or better. Read the comic afterwards out of curiosity. It was okay. Didn't see much point to all the pirate stuff. And I thought the movie was wise to make the big change to the plot that it did, the movie change is far better IMO. But don't take my word for it, watch it and decide for yourself!
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 31, 2018 21:41:04 GMT
Yes and no. It's like Bladerunner: To some people it's great enough to start a cult following, but for majority of the audiences it's nothing special.
I'm part of the group that considers it pretty good but none of my other friends like it. In a forum like this filled with comic nerds I'd assume most will tell you it's great. But all you need do is check its critical and commercial reception to know that the general audiences didn't think it was any good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 5:36:32 GMT
Now I find your 6.5 for The Last Jedi even more confusing. Then you will be pleased to hear that I have actually lowered the TLJ rating to 6/10 vis-a-vis 3.5/10 for TFA. TLJ is not as unoriginal as TFA, but TLJ replaces originality and creativity with subversion, which however often ends up in perversion. There is only one George Lucas. That's still a 2 point difference between a movie you seem to love and a movie you seem hate.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 1, 2018 7:12:48 GMT
Then you will be pleased to hear that I have actually lowered the TLJ rating to 6/10 vis-a-vis 3.5/10 for TFA. TLJ is not as unoriginal as TFA, but TLJ replaces originality and creativity with subversion, which however often ends up in perversion. There is only one George Lucas. That's still a 2 point difference between a movie you seem to love and a movie you seem hate. ah, the difference can be easily explained with a misconception on your side: there are degrees of nuance between love and hate. I'd put it this way: - I like and admire Watchmen as a unique genre film setting forth unusual themes and characters, as well as superb cinematography and choreography. - I'm kinda meh and indifferent on TLJ. Its passable and marked artistic improvement over TFA, but still not good enough. People cry it stinks, but poor RJ mostly just shat out the BS produced by JJ Abrams with TFA (like loser-runaway Luke, Snoke Joke, OT fanfic rehash etc).
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Post by hobowar on Sept 1, 2018 12:48:45 GMT
Shit film for dickheads
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 2, 2018 10:30:56 GMT
funny, could have swore you said that already above. And considering how much you love villain talking about making omelet with broken eggs, you should have adored Rorschach's omelet dialogue here - it made so much more sense than with that silly robot.
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Post by hobowar on Sept 2, 2018 11:56:46 GMT
Terrible movie is terrible.
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Post by hobowar on Sept 2, 2018 12:04:15 GMT
"One of the worse scenes in it is the rape of Silk Spectre which Snyder literally made "sexy" to appeal to horny teenage boys." I didn't find that scene sexy at all. I found it disturbing and upsetting. You are the one who said he thought it was "literally" "sexy". Snyder didn't say he shot it that way. He allowed the viewer to interpret it how they wanted. In fact wasn't this scene another that followed the comic very closely? Are you suggesting Moore also finds rape a turn on? Because I didn't get that feeling. On a side note I have the entire series in it's first run in mint and nm condition if anyone wants to start the bidding. The first and last issue are autographed by Moore and Gibbons. Gibbons signed for free. I had to give Moore some mescaline and a quarter of super silver haze to get him to sign. Once again, I never said it was sexy. And regardless of what Snyder says his intent was with that scene, he's a music video director, and shot the scene in a sexual way.He truly is awful. Watchmen and Sucker Punch should have been a warning to every studio to keep this idiot away from any franchise. How he wasn't immediately fired after Man of Steel, I'll never know.
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Post by sjg on Sept 2, 2018 12:09:53 GMT
Yes, it's worth a watch
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Post by Jedan Archer on Sept 2, 2018 15:11:52 GMT
Definitely must see.
Watchmen: The Theatrical Cut is a very good film.
Watchmen: The Director's Cut (clocks 3+ hours) is an excellent film.
Watchmen: The Ultimate Cut (4 hours) is interesting, integrating the Tales of the Black Freighter storyline.
Watchmen: The Motion Comic is perfectly fine for what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 20:34:47 GMT
That's still a 2 point difference between a movie you seem to love and a movie you seem hate. ah, the difference can be easily explained with a misconception on your side: there are degrees of nuance between love and hate. I'd put it this way: - I like and admire Watchmen as a unique genre film setting forth unusual themes and characters, as well as superb cinematography and choreography. - I'm kinda meh and indifferent on TLJ. Its passable and marked artistic improvement over TFA, but still not good enough. People cry it stinks, but poor RJ mostly just shat out the BS produced by JJ Abrams with TFA (like loser-runaway Luke, Snoke Joke, OT fanfic rehash etc). Well, at least you're consistent. TLJ was largely catering to the people who had problems with TFA, so it blows my mind how a lot of that crowd don't consider it an improvement.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 19, 2019 5:46:51 GMT
I saw it recently for the first time and thought it was absolutely awful in just about every respect.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 19, 2019 10:44:13 GMT
My favorite superhero film after The Dark Knight.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 19, 2019 16:30:04 GMT
It's garbage.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 19, 2019 17:42:56 GMT
What I don’t understand is that there are a lot of people I respect who thought it was the cat’s meow. Not that I expect to agree at all times with the critics/reviewers I like, but it just doesn’t make much sense how they could love it and I could hate it. But, then, it seems all of us here either love it or hate it as well.
The problem for me is that, for all of the airs it puts on, it just isn’t all that smart. The bad guy’s message, which we’re expected to consider as philosophical justification, is basically “the ends justify the means.” Is that all that wise? It’s a cliché by this point; even the apparent progenitor of the doctrine, Machiavelli, has much more to his philosophy. (In particular, he advocates for a transvaluation of virtue, redefining virtù as necessity—but I digress.) Is it the fact that a superhero movie raises these questions the reason it’s so celebrated? But Michael Bay could have a character talk about ends justifying the means in a Transformers movie—does that mean that’s a great film? And the Marvel people have Thanos raise basically the same not very deep question in Infinity War, but there the movie around the question is much more entertaining. Watchmen, by contrast, is about as interesting as watching paint dry.
I don’t get it. I welcome someone who likes it to try to explain to me what I’m not seeing, because—I just think it’s crap. Sorry.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Feb 19, 2019 20:49:34 GMT
The book is phenomenal. A fantastic deconstruction of the silver age.
The movie is everything wrong with Snyder's directorial style. Style far, far over substance.
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